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Boyfriend strange with money

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Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

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BoomBoomMrFox · Today 12:52

Pherian · Today 11:10

the words F* and NO come to mind. They aren't married. DO NOT EVER get involved in credit agreements with someone you aren't married to and even then I would seriously caution against a credit card as joint debt.

I already said the advice for the OP wasn’t appropriate but you are ridiculous to say not to get involved in credit agreements with someone you aren’t married to, as a blanket statement. It works perfectly well for me and my partner of 25 years (jointly owned mortgage-free home, separate finances except a joint current account for joint direct debits and a joint credit card for joint purchases which is paid off every month from the joint current account. Both contribute equal amount to the joint current account each month for monthly bills)

PetulaGordeno · Today 12:53

ConverselyAttired · Today 12:25

Yep. There are some women out there who are just as tight - I have a friend like this. Example - she suggested we split a chocolate brownie with coffee, I said yes, then she changed her mind and asked for her half back (50p!)

He can find one of them. He won't like it done to him though.

It is rare to find these people as a couple? They often want to mooch off someone who is generous.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · Today 12:54

And I got the 'odd gifts' from my ND XP.

It was because he would buy me things that either he thought would be 'useful' (which would explain your socks and hot water bottle, you said you were cold once so...) or he would seize on me saying I liked something casually in passing and buy absolutely everything relating to that. I said I liked owls once. Which I do, a perfectly normal amount. Every gift I received after that had owls on. I got a stuffed owl once. He was desperately trying to go 'presents' but had absolutely no idea.

I will now take any bets that your DP has autism.

Carrie516 · Today 12:55

Can someone please tell me what you click on from the blue bar to leave a comment on someone's post? I find mumsnet so confusing, maybe it's because I'm older .... I've tried replying to posts, but I usually get some random person replying with 'what' or a series of ???? So I'm obviously doing something wrong!

mondaytosunday · Today 12:56

Yuck. Meanness is a terrible trait and he’s not going to change. Anyone who is in early stages of dating and doesn’t at least pay for his half and then expects you to split petrol money is a huge red flag for me. And the Chinese takeaway? What?
My DH was incredibly generous. Not just to me, but everyone. When he got a small inheritance he redistributed his share as he said he didn’t need it but others in his family might. When we married (and I gave up work after my second child) he never once questioned a payment from our joint account, and we always discussed large purchases like a TV.
You don’t deserve to be nickel and dimed constantly. It’s causing you stress and how can you live with that?

Downatthebeach · Today 12:56

bluebirdsandblueskies · Yesterday 23:24

Why are women settling for this shit just not to be alone? I don’t get it!

My thoughts exactly! This is not a healthy relationship when he is so quirky and mean about money. He won’t change the way he is - it’s quite obviously ingrained into him to be so paranoid/tight with money.
I’d be dumping this one. There has to be a better selection of men out there than sticking with this stingy specimen.
OP - You deserve far better than this!

BoomBoomMrFox · Today 12:56

Carrie516 · Today 12:55

Can someone please tell me what you click on from the blue bar to leave a comment on someone's post? I find mumsnet so confusing, maybe it's because I'm older .... I've tried replying to posts, but I usually get some random person replying with 'what' or a series of ???? So I'm obviously doing something wrong!

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PetulaGordeno · Today 12:57

Carrie516 · Today 12:55

Can someone please tell me what you click on from the blue bar to leave a comment on someone's post? I find mumsnet so confusing, maybe it's because I'm older .... I've tried replying to posts, but I usually get some random person replying with 'what' or a series of ???? So I'm obviously doing something wrong!

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Friendlygingercat · Today 12:58

I grew up in a home where money was tight and it made me deeply aware of the value of money. I am a pretty hard headed business woman and will not sub out randoms or strangers. But I am generous with myself and real friends. They may not always have money but they pay me back in other ways.

I just could not be bothered with a partner like yours. He sounds hard work. I would have binned him long ago.

indigox · Today 13:03

It doesn't just stop at birthdays/anniversaries/christmas though does it? Even removing those the issue doesn't go away. So why even cut those out to appease him when his attitude infiltrates everything, living together would be impossible, he'll be monitoring your electricity use and proposing splitting the bills in ways that benefit him.

ByUniqueViper · Today 13:08

He is stingy and is unlikely to change. I can see why you dont want to celebrate special days as it ends us with you feeling rubbish and it spoils everything. You've made it clear you aren't after his money and you've shown him that youre generous.
Can you live the rest of your life like this with him?
What if when the kids are older you decide to move in together. How would that work?
You've tried to speak to him about it and rather than him take accountability hes turned into a sulky baby.
Id say its time to consider your future with him

WishfulThinkingToday · Today 13:10

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:16

It does feel very literal and autistic. He often puts his foot in it by being super blunt/honest eg 'your house smells' and can otherwise be so sweet. It's so confusing.

I also agree that he may be autistic. He may not understand why his behaviour will make you upset.

Sparklingdreams345 · Today 13:10

My ex partner was like this. We were together for 10 years and it never got any better, infact it got worse.
When I was on maternity leave I literally could not afford to keep my car on the road as he expected me to spend the majority of my maternity pay on my half of the bills even though he earned quite good money. He wouldn't allow me to drive his car and was happy to watch me carry a weeks shopping home heavily pregnant.
When baby arrived I was expected to pay for everything, he didnt see it as his job to. If he was going to the shop and I asked him to grab wet wipes he would put his hand out for me to give him the money for them. He never contributed towards her birthday, Christmas presents. I always had to pay for all of us for days out and give him petrol money.
I believe he was on the spectrum and didnt see anything wrong with his behaviour.

Carrie516 · Today 13:12

PetulaGordeno · Today 12:57

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krustykittens · Today 13:12

Dump him, OP, and stick with the therapy. Stop using soft language for bad behaviour. He's not strange with money. he's mean. He's not unromantic, he is mean of spirit. He denies his children what they need to keep his money in his pocket and he makes you miserable because he wants to keep his money in his pocket. He wanted to move in with you shortly after meeting you to save on rent, FFS! His life revolves around him and him only, he doesn't give a shit about other people. Do NOT saddle yourself with him. My DH came from a poor family, he is very careful with money and about as romantic as a brick but he is a generous man with the people he loves, gives to charity as he acknowledges he has a lot so wants to share. All he wants is to make me smile. Anyone who won't share their money, won't share their lives.

Kokonimater · Today 13:12

Onceuponatime32 · Yesterday 23:59

A hike for your birthday 😳

And she doesn’t have to pay for petrol!!!

MyDeftDuck · Today 13:18

I wouldn’t tag him as strange………..more like a tight fisted scrote!
OP, you deserve so much better. Move on and enjoy life rather than having all the joy sucked out of it by Mr Scrooge……….sorry Ebenezer, no offence intended!

Forgotmyoriginalusername · Today 13:19

Lack of generosity with money is one thing but he also shows a lack of generosity in spirit. He doesn’t want to celebrate anything; he doesn’t even want to celebrate YOU. Life with him would be one long drag.

Even the gifts he chooses are not only cheap but also joyless, unimaginative and function-only. If he isn’t going to spend money on gifts and outings, he at least could put some time, thought and care behind them. Not just a cursory ordering in bed or a very weird ‘gift’ of petrol-debt relief! This is not just about more spending - he could have added a romantic homemade picnic to the hike for less than the cost of a forecourt sandwich lunch - it’s about showing he actually cares about you and wants you to be happy.

He’s still meant to be woo-ing you for goodness sake, it’s only going to get worse from here on! I’d get out while you can and, on your way out the door, maybe mention he needs to be less mean to his ex too!

BillieWiper · Today 13:19

Tight git. I get being broke but there's ways and means of being poor without taking advantage of others or seeming mean spirited.
Unless he's living solely on benefits or for some reason only works part time min wage then he clearly won't have much money. But it sounds like he isn't that far onto the bones of his arse? If he's buying a fucking house!

AndyBurnhamIsATwerp · Today 13:19

Years ago, I had a boyfriend like that and it was so wearing. He would only shop in the yellow sticker aisle and it didn’t matter what was there, he’d make a meal from it. I love the yellow sticker aisle but I won’t buy stuff just because it’s there. There’s been plenty of times I’ve just walked on by. He tried to serve me up some really weird shit. When he suggested rationing shags as he didn’t want to have to buy too many condoms, that’s when he got the heave ho. I’d been thinking he was odd for a while but that was the last stingy straw 😂

Dogmum74 · Today 13:21

Dear lord get rid of this man. He is WEIRD and not in a good way. I am not sure how you are even having sex with him because everything you have said is a HUGE ick for me: all of it

Gillettegirl · Today 13:25

He's probably autistic, and doesn't realise social norms of money and who pays what, etc, though that in itself is not an excuse to be stingy. Where does his money go? In savings? Pension? Is he in debt? If he's got hundreds of thousands in the bank, while acting this tight, I'd have to end things, sorry OP.

SqueakyFromme · Today 13:25

He's so tight he'd skin a turd.

Incidentally Himalayan salt for £1 seems quite a bargain

Shittyyear2025 · Today 13:26

Two kids and £50k salary is way more than £200 a month CMS contribution. Not only is he thoughtless he's mean with his money. I get the sharing of paying for stuff for the two of you but it should be a loose arrangement that works out over the course of a few dates, not splitting bills, petrol and checking you're not going to get a starter.

He's obviously got HUGE cash flow problems. Funny how he was so keen to move in with you because he didn't like paying rent, I wonder how long it will take him to tell you he's surrendered his tenancy but oh dear the bank have withdrawn the Mortgage offer so now he's homeless ....

nochance17 · Today 13:26

He is either stingy or he is no good with money and is in debt. On 50K he should be paying a lot more towards his kids than £200 a month.