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Boyfriend strange with money

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Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

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User97463 · Today 12:06

Wickedlittledancer · Today 12:05

Oh wow, go you, the professionals would be hugely delighted at your ability to diagnose a person with autism with limited knowledge from a chat forum. I suggest you write to ghe general medical council and explain there is no need for all their fancy diagnostic methods, you’ve got it nailed. And can do it in seconds from a few scant details on a chat forum.

Haha didn't take long for the GIF police to show up

Goatsarebest · Today 12:08

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:01

I really do. And you know what, he had bad erectile dysfunction for our first six months due to years of sexual rejection from his wife and I was so compassionate and helped him get back to great function. Asshole!!!!

You brought a middle age man who was not able to get an errection back to great sexual functioning and he bought you a hot water bottle. That's gratitude for you. Most men 'helped' in that way would be treating you like a princess.

SisterMidnight77 · Today 12:15

Is this for real? Those ‘presents’ aren’t just stingy, they’re downright hilarious.

Imseriouslyyouguys · Today 12:21

Bottom line is you’re incompatible.

Justthethingsthatyoudointhisgarden · Today 12:23

Oh lordy, I'm glad you have already decided he isn't for you. The thing isn't the lack of money. People can be a bit skint but still kind and generous in their ways. It's the sheer lack of thought and effort. The moving in was obviously a money saving exercise rather than love.

Onwards and upwards, at least now you can spend all yours on you and the kids.

Badinfo · Today 12:23

It sounds like he is autistic too, it hereditary so his daughter would have got it from one of her parents, and it's common for relationships to be a struggle for autistic people and he clearly isn't understand the society norms, also fairness (the splitting of everything) is a common autistic thing too. Maybe suggest he look into it.

ConverselyAttired · Today 12:25

Imseriouslyyouguys · Today 12:21

Bottom line is you’re incompatible.

Yep. There are some women out there who are just as tight - I have a friend like this. Example - she suggested we split a chocolate brownie with coffee, I said yes, then she changed her mind and asked for her half back (50p!)

He can find one of them. He won't like it done to him though.

GentlemanJay · Today 12:25

It will get worse. Just call it a day.

watchingthishtread · Today 12:26

None of these issues are things that are ever going to change. This is who he is. He's not the man for you.

Youregivingmeearache · Today 12:28

His ex has told you that hes mean with money. From your description he is mean all round, that he not generous.in any shape or form, either financially or emotionally.
You need to dump him. He sounds miserable to be with.

Itsjustmeagainhello · Today 12:33

I dated someone once who earned more than me. I was a single parent, struggling to make ends meet but he still would let me pay or insist on splitting everything. I am a naturally generous person and to start with I paid for things but the constant stress about who was going to pay or the faff of splitting bills all the time turned me into someone I didn't want to be. I had to be like him or I would end up paying more than my share as he would never offer.
I didnt like who I was being forced to become as it wasn't who I am naturally. I am a giver. He was a taker and like your situation that is never going to work longterm without making you into a penny pinching meany too. Get out now and find someone who gives as much as you do.

MyMilchick · Today 12:36

Ugh sounds awful. I couldn't be with such a stingy penny pincher who doesn't even look after his children. He's literally paying less than £25 a week for each of his children. Gross

NoCommentingFromNowOn · Today 12:36

Itsjustmeagainhello · Today 12:33

I dated someone once who earned more than me. I was a single parent, struggling to make ends meet but he still would let me pay or insist on splitting everything. I am a naturally generous person and to start with I paid for things but the constant stress about who was going to pay or the faff of splitting bills all the time turned me into someone I didn't want to be. I had to be like him or I would end up paying more than my share as he would never offer.
I didnt like who I was being forced to become as it wasn't who I am naturally. I am a giver. He was a taker and like your situation that is never going to work longterm without making you into a penny pinching meany too. Get out now and find someone who gives as much as you do.

Yes, this is almost identical to a situation I was in! I just didn’t want to see him again after a while, it all became a much bigger issue than it had ever been before.

bettyrubble99 · Today 12:36

Get rid of this sad, strange, stingy man. How can you find anything appealing about a grown adult throwing tantrums.

PurplGirl · Today 12:36

OP, my first thought was “is this guy autistic?”, then I read your updates about his child being autistic, and his other behaviours. I think PPs are being hard on him. I’m not saying you should accept this and continue with the relationship - he’s not your responsibility. But I think you and others could and should cut him some slack. He’s not doing these things to be mean. His brain (potentially) processes things differently and there’ll be things he struggles with that neurotypical people wouldn’t.

MrsKeats · Today 12:38

How is he only paying his ex 200 quid per month? CMS calculation is 547.

Stationbike · Today 12:38

Itsjustmeagainhello · Today 12:33

I dated someone once who earned more than me. I was a single parent, struggling to make ends meet but he still would let me pay or insist on splitting everything. I am a naturally generous person and to start with I paid for things but the constant stress about who was going to pay or the faff of splitting bills all the time turned me into someone I didn't want to be. I had to be like him or I would end up paying more than my share as he would never offer.
I didnt like who I was being forced to become as it wasn't who I am naturally. I am a giver. He was a taker and like your situation that is never going to work longterm without making you into a penny pinching meany too. Get out now and find someone who gives as much as you do.

Mean single men often target single parents.
They see them as nurturer's to be used, whom usually have a comfortable home set up.

PerkyPinkZebra · Today 12:38

He sounds tight despite reasonable income as paying very little for his kids and cheap with you. Being unhappy about special occasions and no likelihood of living togather along with money differences- I think you aren't a good match and probably already know that.

OneFineDay22 · Today 12:41

You poor thing. I can’t imagine being with someone like this for a year and a half! As if he tells you he’s had to budget to buy you a hot water bottle. And he earns 50k. Well
done not letting the little sponge move in with you!

It’s not good he’s giving you the silent treatment when you’ve been honest about how his lack of effort has made you feel. Get rid.

Imisscoffee2021 · Today 12:44

He sounds deeply unattractive, both I'm his treatment of you and in his paying the minimum child support while on 50k, and pushing to live together to save on renting ... you two have different styles with money to day it kindly and don't sound like a great match.

theemmadilemma · Today 12:49

Skimming over the other stuff.... the money stuff sounds like someone in debt up to their eye balls and struggling to make ends meet - for whatever reason.

Earning 50k is only relative if you know he has no debt and is mortgage free, otherwise to understand his financial situation you'd have to know more.

He's not dealing with it in a pretty way for sure, and maybe it is a conversation for down the line a bit in a relationship, but it's screaming I've got fuck all money to me.

(DH stupidly got himself in even more debt romancing me initially, until we had an honest chat. Then it turned out we were both in debt. Now we're very comfortable thanks largely to his hard work.)

Gemilo · Today 12:49

To be honest he sounds needy as well as mean. To cry when you said he hadn't made much effort is not normal or attractive.

Carrie516 · Today 12:49

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

Obsession with money is such a turn off. This will not go away, it's time to move on.

ThriveAT · Today 12:50

He is not really supporting his children. £200/ month? What does that cover?

Send this one back into the sea. Let him go. Too much angst around money and stingy. You can do better.

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 12:50

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

Perhaps he has debt or financial issues? Does he spend much on himself?

If he isn't spending money on others or himself, I imagine debt. Putting the dots together re your comment around his ex being financially controlling or wanting a breadwinner, I imagine that it's secret credit card debt.