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Emotional affair - do I walk away?

247 replies

Helpneededprettypls · 14/04/2026 18:54

I’ve been with my husband for 16 years, married for 10. We have two children together, 5 and 7, and a beautiful home.

I recently found a playlist that he had on Spotify (we share an Account) with another girl (someone I had never heard of). I asked him about it and he said she was just a colleague. I asked again the next day and he told me (via text) that he had feelings for her, that he didn’t know if it was love as it hadn’t been long enough yet, that there is an “added complication as she is married”. I asked how long it had been going on. He said he’d only ever met her three times. I asked again a few days later as it made no sense to me that you could fall for someone after meeting them 3 times. He then told me it had been many more times that they had met for “lunch or coffee”.

He insists nothing physical has happened. He told me that he had stopped contact with her, that he misses her (and that I should feel empathy for him for the hurt he’s going through as a result of missing her).

I then found that was all a lie because they are still messaging.

What do I do? Do you think it has been physical? Should I walk away?

OP posts:
Delphiniumandlupins · 15/04/2026 12:03

He has lied to you, over and over. He hasn't ended contact with her and doesn't plan to. If the affair hasn't been physical YET it's not because he wouldn't.

ForTipsyFinch · 15/04/2026 12:07

The feel empathy part 😂 idk how men have the nerve to say this nonsense with a straight face. Goodness me.

MiaKulper · 15/04/2026 12:14

ForTipsyFinch · 15/04/2026 12:07

The feel empathy part 😂 idk how men have the nerve to say this nonsense with a straight face. Goodness me.

It's because they are thinking with their dicks.

UpDownAllAround1 · 15/04/2026 12:17

Bet he has a massive pension pot that could help get you a new home post divorce

Dery · 15/04/2026 12:24

@Helpneededprettypls - it is pretty disgusting that he is on £450k p.a. and has been letting you pay 50% of the mortgage and bills allowing you to be financially crippled each month. How did that come about? He obviously doesn't see you as a team. A dear friend of mine (now divorced) had this in her marriage and when she described it to the police, they considered that to be financial abuse. Like others, if that's how he makes you live, I think you would likely be better off divorced. You need to pay for proper legal advice on your entitlements.

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:25

JennyForeigner · 14/04/2026 23:05

Thank you so much for posting OP. I am another one going through it at the moment. I recently learned that my 'gaslighting prick of a STBXH' (words: my friend) has been having an emotional (he claims) affair for months with a mum in my kids class.

Our child is disabled and securing that school and her mainstream education has been the most important thing in the world to me. He used the relationships I built through that process to leverage his way into emotional infidelity within days of her taking up the place, and so that I now can't even speak to another parent in my disabled child's school without checking myself in case I inadvertently say too much. At the same time, his affair partner is blowing up the class WhatsApp about her amazing marriage.

Fuck him all to hell with the joint counselling. Someone should make t-shirts saying 'don't see a counsellor, see a solicitor' (although your own counsellor who works on your goals with you is an absolute must). Your job isn't to be a punchbag and he doesn't get to enlist a joint counsellor to tell him this is your fault.

As you stand up to him, you'll see the nasty come out. Get ahead of it - he has left you with no marriage left to save. Secure the children's future instead.

This is just awful - I'm so sorry - especially that it's a mum in your kid's class. Absolutely brutal! Thinking of you!

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Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:26

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 14/04/2026 23:11

You don't have to go to the counselling. He needs it, you don't. You need a lawyer, a bloody good one.
So sorry you're going through this

He insisted that I get therapy - told me to speak to people to "realise that this was completely normal" - I told my friends and family and they were like, err, no, this is NOT normal!

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Endofyear · 15/04/2026 12:26

You know you don't have to go to counselling with him, don't you? I'd be absolutely blanking him and speaking to a solicitor asap. Yes it's scary to take a step into the unknown but what's the alternative? Staying with someone who has betrayed you in the most disgusting way is infinitely more scary.

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:29

auserna · 14/04/2026 23:26

...he didn’t know if it was love as it hadn’t been long enough yet, that there is an “added complication as she is married”...

WTF? The complication of him being married to you rather renders that irrelevant, does it not?!

And "yet"?? Does he somehow expect you to be pleased for him as embarks on this exciting new relationship?

...that he misses her (and that I should feel empathy for him for the hurt he’s going through as a result of missing her)...

What?!?! He's really completely and utterly self-absorbed, isn't he? What a dick.

It's bizarre isn't it - he tells me stuff and then when I'm upset about it he says you ask me questions and then when I answer you get hurt by it (as though that is somehow surprising to him). I genuinely think he feels no empathy. It's all what he feels. He even told me this to start with over whatsapp - not in person! Didn't even rush home from work that day to have a conversation with me about it - I was at home looking after our youngest as he was off sick from school that day, had to wait until 8pm when he got home to even talk to him about it face to face

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Dery · 15/04/2026 12:30

What on earth does he think is normal? To tell your spouse you have feelings for another person but you're not sure yet if it's love; that the complication is that this other person is married; that your spouse should feel sorry for you as you pine over the other person!?!? And he wants you to have therapy to accept that it is normal. It is quite monstrous of him to think that is normal. It really is like he thinks you don't really exist as a person, that you're something less than human and don't really count. But given your financial arrangements, he's sounding pretty uncaring and nasty.

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:30

AbbotSade1985 · 15/04/2026 00:09

OP I have been through this myself and the subsequent drip feed. Little nuggets of info changing or being added as the weeks go by.

I was also told nothing had happened, then it all came out and he'd been seeing her for a few years. She thought he was going to leave me for her (she was married).

It was a hard 12 months after that. Couples therapy, all sorts. It's hardened me and I'm preparing myself for the future.

Did you stay together or separate? I'm sorry you have gone through this too :(

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Crikeyalmighty · 15/04/2026 12:32

@Helpneededprettyplssadly it sounds like he now sees you as his mother or sister , just there to comment on his other romances

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:34

AgentPidge · 15/04/2026 10:20

I would go to the counselling session and see what he says - watch him squirm.

Yeah, I'm interested to know what he's going to say to be honest

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MiaKulper · 15/04/2026 12:35

It is quite monstrous of him to think that is normal. I don't think it is. IMO their thinking becomes so screwed that they come out with nonsense.

'It's not his fault, it is all OP's fault. She made him do it. She needs therapy...'
It's his dick talking.

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:36

Itsrainingloadshere · 15/04/2026 11:40

You don’t have to go to the counselling session on Thursday. He can go to counselling and discuss his shitty behaviour with a therapist if he likes. If you feel he will use the session in some way against you then don’t go.

Can always book a session in a few weeks if you think it might help.

He sounds awful and in the long run it’s better his behaviour has been found out now as you can move on and find a better life. Things do get better! It’s hard and overwhelming at the time though.

Do you have a good friend to talk to about this? Someone to offload to? Start finding good family solicitor for advice as well as that will make you feel more in control.

Yes, have a strong network so have been talking to them a lot which has definitely helped. I guess I wanted more opinions on it (probably to ease my thinking that I'm not making the right decision). Thank you all for your comments - I really appreciate it!

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Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:37

ForTipsyFinch · 15/04/2026 12:07

The feel empathy part 😂 idk how men have the nerve to say this nonsense with a straight face. Goodness me.

It's bonkers isn't it

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popcorn215 · 15/04/2026 12:39

How are you actually doing? I bet he’s continuing life as normal isn’t it!

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:40

Dery · 15/04/2026 12:24

@Helpneededprettypls - it is pretty disgusting that he is on £450k p.a. and has been letting you pay 50% of the mortgage and bills allowing you to be financially crippled each month. How did that come about? He obviously doesn't see you as a team. A dear friend of mine (now divorced) had this in her marriage and when she described it to the police, they considered that to be financial abuse. Like others, if that's how he makes you live, I think you would likely be better off divorced. You need to pay for proper legal advice on your entitlements.

I don't really know to be honest how that came about - I guess I just felt that I should be paying half but looking at it now in black and white it sounds ridiculous.

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DivorcedButHappyNow · 15/04/2026 12:42

Remember this. The more he earns, the more the divorce will cost HIM!! No reason why you can’t stay in the house with the kids.

Affairs are not normal. Betrayal is not normal. His behaviour is not normal for a happily married man. He doesn’t get to define normal.

Marriage guidance isn’t going to help here. You are both past the point.

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:44

popcorn215 · 15/04/2026 12:39

How are you actually doing? I bet he’s continuing life as normal isn’t it!

He is completely carrying on as normal. He tried to hug me this morning in front of the kids and I was frozen. Not sure why he would do that given the situation and it felt like he did it in front of the kids because he knew that I couldnt say anything. He also cooked dinner last night - the first time in years - again, it doesn't make sense to me - does he think that makes up for all this?

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ukathleticscoach · 15/04/2026 12:46

Get him to change jobs & cut off contact or ditch him

Just read the finance part - get rid now!

MiaKulper · 15/04/2026 12:47

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:44

He is completely carrying on as normal. He tried to hug me this morning in front of the kids and I was frozen. Not sure why he would do that given the situation and it felt like he did it in front of the kids because he knew that I couldnt say anything. He also cooked dinner last night - the first time in years - again, it doesn't make sense to me - does he think that makes up for all this?

You won't figure it our, but it's probably him trying to make him look good in front of the kids.
It doesn't mean that he won't be seeing her or that he's not thinking of her.

He'll try to make you out to be the bad guy.

Get the legal advice and get rid of him. He needs a proverbial kick in the gonads.

BuckChuckets · 15/04/2026 12:50

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:40

I don't really know to be honest how that came about - I guess I just felt that I should be paying half but looking at it now in black and white it sounds ridiculous.

I'd be stopping that immediately! Urgh, so sorry he's putting you through this - you sound awesome and pretty strong, so I'm sure you'll come out of this even stronger.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 15/04/2026 12:50

What a prick!! How dare he do this to you. So sorry this is happening but glad you have found out. What an idiot he is. Run! He doesn’t deserve you.x

auserna · 15/04/2026 12:51

Helpneededprettypls · 15/04/2026 12:29

It's bizarre isn't it - he tells me stuff and then when I'm upset about it he says you ask me questions and then when I answer you get hurt by it (as though that is somehow surprising to him). I genuinely think he feels no empathy. It's all what he feels. He even told me this to start with over whatsapp - not in person! Didn't even rush home from work that day to have a conversation with me about it - I was at home looking after our youngest as he was off sick from school that day, had to wait until 8pm when he got home to even talk to him about it face to face

It's very bizarre. And astonishing that he got to the stage of being married if this is the way he treats people.