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Heartbroken all over - will he be different with her?

274 replies

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 14:36

Hi

I'm sure you will remember me. I was doing ok. My name is slightly different now as I think my last account was erased despite pleas to reinstate it. I am being totally visible about that - I'm the same person.

You may remember my Heartbroken post from last year. I have been in intensive and ongoing therapy over my ex, who I have been told by numerous therapists, is narcissistic and abusive and that the version of him that I fell for, wasn't actually real. This is the man who, without going over all the dreaded detail again, entered into a relationship with me, has the two ex wives and travels back and forward to Vietnam. His children have no relationship with him either, and have disowned him. I am now 50 and this man is 54.

For reference I absolutely adored this man, we weren't together very long and at the start it was all new exciting, thrilling lots of contact and intimacy. But it soon turned very sour and as we worked together, I had to move departments due to his childish and irregular behaviour. He began hiding from me in the toilets at work - for the one reason that I had borrowed his coffee cup - telling my colleagues and called a meeting with our boss in which he told me that our intimacy wasn't love making - it was f - and my boss did nothing. During one of his regular trips to Vietnam, I moved departments. On the odd occasions when I do see him now, he will deviate between complete ignorance, and joking. Just last week as he told me he was returning to Vietnam, he asked me if the bag I was carrying contained a 'sexual item' and asked was it a 'rubber vagina'. This from the man who once said I made him so uncomfortable that he had to hide in the toilets. He then proudly announced he was going to Vietnam this week.

As if that wasn't enough, he completely stuck the knife in by announcing, 'I have a girlfriend, she's 38, beautiful, and I love her, I'm happy. I know in my heart it's right'. He then took out a picture of her and thrust it in my face. He said they 'facetime every night'. He claims he is now a Buddhist and has quit smoking and drugs. He was on a lot of cocaine for years.

This was a week and a half ago and I have struggled ever since. My therapist maintains he is a narcissist but what is making it worse for me is the current rumour that he may be getting married to this woman. He has met her in person once. The photo has him with his head on her shoulder and she is on his knee, they are holding hands. He was in no way kind in how he chose to tell me.

I feel absolutely devastated. He was brutally cruel to me for the time I was with him, blowing hot and cold but always saying 'just give me time' and I believed him. He said I was his soulmate and wanted me to meet his family. He asked me to move into my Mum's room with him knowing she had only died a few years previous to that. Then he pulled the rug, with me struggling to understand since then (3 years ago) what I've done wrong.

I've tried to get help and am doing things like going to the gym and yoga. But this has really set me back to the point my therapist told me today that she is insistent that I ring my GP as my 'core scores' were through the roof. I feel exhausted, even walking the short distance to the bus stop, I'm on edge, I feel sick and the reason is I am desperately wondering why she seems to be getting the better version of him. I loved him with my whole heart, I was patient, supportive, understanding and kind. I don't know why he is throwing it in my face that he loves her and if he does marry her, to me, in my mind, it will sort of highlight that I was the problem all along. This would be his third marriage - his second to a Vietnamese woman. He is just moving on as if I didn't exist and I'm struggling so badly to heal. My own mind is frightening me as I feel so deeply and I feel like something is wrong with me? I spoke to a mutual friend who says he is like a child, always chasing after the next shiny thing but even that makes me wonder why I wasn't shiny enough to keep.

I'm sorry to contact you all again, but do you really think he could be different with her? When his own kids won't talk to him? What the hell is so special about Vietnam? His last wife was from there and dumped him when she got her citizenship to the UK.

Thanks again, for listening to me.

OP posts:
BetterOffNow · 14/04/2026 14:40

As I think many of us said to you before, you need to let go.

It makes no difference to you whether he will be different with her. If he is, then he's found his person, and that has no bearing on you at all, you just weren't right for each other. I doubt he will be though, he's just found someone more likely to accept his awful behaviour.

As before, you've dodged a bullet with this one, don't give him any more headspace!

LughLongArm · 14/04/2026 14:44

OP, the issue is with you. As everyone said on your last thread. He’s an irrelevance, and you sound incredibly vulnerable. It doesn’t matter what your therapist thinks he is, or whether he’s delightful to his new girlfriend — he’s nothing to do with you. We’ve all been dumped in painful circumstances at some point. You need to move on and stop ruminating about his choice of wives or his liking for Vietnam.

OriginalSkang · 14/04/2026 14:48

It sounds like he barely knows her and it will most probably fall apart

I think that in the nicest possible way, you need to work on why this is taking you over. I had something very similar that was a kind of extreme rejection sensitivity. Someone, who really isn't ideal partner material at all, got stuck in my mind so that that was all I could think about. For a couple of years! It took over my life

When you are in therapy, try not to spend so much time discussing the situation with him as much as why you can't move on from someone who sounds like an absolute nightmare x

Fiftyandme · 14/04/2026 14:50

Stop being a supply for him. And move jobs. Radical acceptance is needed

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 14:58

BetterOffNow · 14/04/2026 14:40

As I think many of us said to you before, you need to let go.

It makes no difference to you whether he will be different with her. If he is, then he's found his person, and that has no bearing on you at all, you just weren't right for each other. I doubt he will be though, he's just found someone more likely to accept his awful behaviour.

As before, you've dodged a bullet with this one, don't give him any more headspace!

He's abusive and a narcissist but he may have found his person? Ah ok, gotcha. My abuse was warranted then. Thanks.

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Pearlstillsinging · 14/04/2026 14:59

It's done!
You need to let it all go and move on. Talk to your therapist about ways to do that and push the narcissist out of your mind.

BeenThereBackThen · 14/04/2026 14:59

He sounds awful.

Will he treat his #3 38year old vietnamese wife better? Absolutely not, i can promise you that. He has a rock solid track record of being a prick, to the point his own children have disowned him.

You need to change jobs so you don’t have to be in contact with him anymore. Do that for your own sanity, he still has a hold of you and plays mind games because it works for him.

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 14:59

LughLongArm · 14/04/2026 14:44

OP, the issue is with you. As everyone said on your last thread. He’s an irrelevance, and you sound incredibly vulnerable. It doesn’t matter what your therapist thinks he is, or whether he’s delightful to his new girlfriend — he’s nothing to do with you. We’ve all been dumped in painful circumstances at some point. You need to move on and stop ruminating about his choice of wives or his liking for Vietnam.

Have you been abused?

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OriginalSkang · 14/04/2026 15:01

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 14:58

He's abusive and a narcissist but he may have found his person? Ah ok, gotcha. My abuse was warranted then. Thanks.

I don't know how on earth you got that from that post?

LughLongArm · 14/04/2026 15:03

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 14:59

Have you been abused?

Certainly. CSA as a child meant that before I dealt with a lot of things in therapy in adulthood I was very vulnerable. You still need to move on from this man and stop ruminating about whether he’ll be different with this girlfriend.

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:03

OriginalSkang · 14/04/2026 15:01

I don't know how on earth you got that from that post?

Because how can a narcissistic abuser have found their person? That is so bloody confusing to me. It's like saying 'oh ok I will stop being a nasty piece of shit now!'

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OriginalSkang · 14/04/2026 15:04

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:03

Because how can a narcissistic abuser have found their person? That is so bloody confusing to me. It's like saying 'oh ok I will stop being a nasty piece of shit now!'

She didn't say anything about him finding his person?

LughLongArm · 14/04/2026 15:06

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:03

Because how can a narcissistic abuser have found their person? That is so bloody confusing to me. It's like saying 'oh ok I will stop being a nasty piece of shit now!'

That’s your therapist’s opinion on someone he or she has never met. You need to be less invested in this ‘diagnosis’, and in the idea that he will behave just as badly to this new woman, and to focus more on what you can control — your own behaviour. It’s irrelevant to your life now whether he’s horrible to her or treats her like a princess.

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:07

OriginalSkang · 14/04/2026 15:04

She didn't say anything about him finding his person?

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BetterOffNow · Today 14:40
As I think many of us said to you before, you need to let go.
It makes no difference to you whether he will be different with her. If he is, then he's found his person, and that has no bearing on you at all, you just weren't right for each other. I doubt he will be though, he's just found someone more likely to accept his awful behaviour.
As before, you've dodged a bullet with this one, don't give him any more headspace!

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MrsMoastyToasty · 14/04/2026 15:08

It doesnt matter one single fuck what he or she does or doesn't do. Move on.

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:08

LughLongArm · 14/04/2026 15:06

That’s your therapist’s opinion on someone he or she has never met. You need to be less invested in this ‘diagnosis’, and in the idea that he will behave just as badly to this new woman, and to focus more on what you can control — your own behaviour. It’s irrelevant to your life now whether he’s horrible to her or treats her like a princess.

It's not irrelevant at all, I think it says a lot about me and that's why I'm struggling. How can someone with a broken history of marriages estrangement from his kids and being really verbally and emotionally abusive to me, suddenly be nice?

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TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:08

MrsMoastyToasty · 14/04/2026 15:08

It doesnt matter one single fuck what he or she does or doesn't do. Move on.

Not helpful.

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OriginalSkang · 14/04/2026 15:09

I had two therapists that would go in to the ins and outs of my interactions with the guy I became obsessed with with me before I got one that was more focussed on how I could move on from it

I think you need to be speaking in therapy about why this is sticking with you so much rather than about what his potential issues are

ForTipsyFinch · 14/04/2026 15:10

No. He won’t suddenly have a personality transplant and treat her well. He’s simply found a new victim.

OriginalSkang · 14/04/2026 15:11

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:07

Here:

BetterOffNow · Today 14:40
As I think many of us said to you before, you need to let go.
It makes no difference to you whether he will be different with her. If he is, then he's found his person, and that has no bearing on you at all, you just weren't right for each other. I doubt he will be though, he's just found someone more likely to accept his awful behaviour.
As before, you've dodged a bullet with this one, don't give him any more headspace!

I think you need to focus on the last part of her message - its doubtful! If he is a narcissist, why would you think he's going to have a better relationship with this woman? He will be exactly the same. Maybe she'll have it worse than you. Clearly he's not going to be an angel and they'll live happily ever after!

You need to focus on yourself and what you have learnt about yourself out of all of this

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 14/04/2026 15:12

Please, please move on and forget this twat. It doesn't matter what's he's up to now. You need to change job.

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2026 15:13

Logically, you had a very brief period of love bombing. Then he was horrible to you, including at work, and now he’s using this poor new woman to try to make you jealous.

What you need to do is work out why you’re letting him. He might be a narcissist, abusive, scummy and evil. And you adored him. And still seem invested. That’s the issue, not who he is and who he’s dating or marrying.

I feel very sorry for this woman, and possibly keeping that in your mind would help. Poor cow has more of this to deal with.

Pepperedpickles · 14/04/2026 15:13

I don’t understand why you still have contact with him? Do you still work together? If so that needs sorting. You need to completely block him from your life.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 14/04/2026 15:13

What's the point in posting again, you disagree with everyone. What do you want people to say?

IHate · 14/04/2026 15:14

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:08

Not helpful.

What help are you hoping to get from this thread that you haven’t got from your previous threads and your professional support?

This is above MN’s paygrade. Particularly as you don’t want to get better. You want an audience for your obsession.

I remember your previous threads. My chief reaction to this now is irritation. Nobody can help you if you refuse to help yourself.

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