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What would you think about this? My partner is excluding me from things without explanation.

162 replies

AmIJustMissingSomethingHere · 02/04/2026 19:52

I've been with my partner for 5 years.

He has a lot of friends from the area where he grew up and, whenever it's someone's birthday or whatever, they tend to put on a gig at a local pub and all get together there to celebrate.

It's always quite an informal affair - everyone is invited - friends, husbands, wives, partners, girfriends/boyfriends of 6 weeks. In fact you're less invited and more presumed to be going. This is relevant.

Since we've been together, I've gone to several of these events with him. This is also relevant.

Except that, last summer, my partner went to one and didn't take me with him. There had been a lot of talk about it and because of the nature of the nights, it's always presented more as, "It's so-and-sos birthday on X. Such and such are playing. Have we got anything on?"

Last summer, we had the same conversation. The day before, I realised I hadn't got specific details and asked, "What time is it starting tomorrow?" He told me but that was it. I know how long it takes to get there so no problem. Only the following day, he asked me what my plans were for the evening. I was a bit stunned and said I hadn't got any. And he said, "Oh. OK. Well I'll be leaving at X time."

I didn't say anything because I didn't know what to say. I could have asked why I wasn't going with him but the small physical distance between us suddenly felt huge and I didn't feel like I could; I didn't want to have an upsetting conversation before he was going out for the evening and I didn't want to spend the evening on my own after a conversation that wasn't ever going to be positive.

I wondered if maybe that night was different for some reason but, no, the following day when he talked about it, the usual people had been there - all the same friends, husbands, wives, partners and girlfriends/boyfriends of 6 weeks... Just not me.

It's not been mentioned since. I've never asked and he's never explained. I'd pretty much forgotten about it, tbh.

But a few weeks ago, the conversation arose again. "It's John's birthday on Y at Z. There's a band playing. Have we got anything on?" No. Great!

Except that once again, there's been no mention of me going. I haven't been told I'm not going but then I wasn't last time either

We've been to gigs and the pub with John and his wife a few times. I can't think of any conceivable reason why John wouldn't want me there. We've always got on. I've always got on with his wife.

They're all very laid back and it's a live music pub where people are packed in until they're spilling out onto the street and no catering so not an issue of numbers.

In fact, the only probable explanation is that my partner doesn't want me there.

I just don't know what to say or what to think. There is no specific invitation to wait for as partners are automatically included. And my partner is definitely going. Nothing has been said to me either way. Like last year.

I just feel really stupid tbh. He is included appropriately with my friends. I wouldn't dream of going on a night out with couples without inviting him.

I wouldn't even mind if he said, "Look, AmIMissingSomethingHere, I haven't seen them in ages. Would you mind if I went on my own?" That would be fine and he knows that. But surely that would be acknowledged?

Any ideas?

OP posts:
Wildgoat · 02/04/2026 19:57

Sweetie we can’t guess. You need to ask him. People will soon be along to give you a kick and say he’s cheating.

crossroadsfan · 02/04/2026 19:58

Is he thoughtless in other ways? Are there other things you feel you can't broach with him?

SuburbanKel · 02/04/2026 20:00

I don't understand. You say specifically that nobody is 'invited' - it happens, and people go.
Nothing you have written suggests you have not been 'invited'.
The odd thing is that your partner has not/didn't say 'Why are you not coming?'

Lennonjingles · 02/04/2026 20:02

I’m sorry, but you need to ask is there a reason why he doesn’t want you to go with him to some events, but not all. Is he assuming maybe you don’t like the band, either way, after being together 5 years, you should be comfortable speaking to him about anything.

Wildgoat · 02/04/2026 20:02

SuburbanKel · 02/04/2026 20:00

I don't understand. You say specifically that nobody is 'invited' - it happens, and people go.
Nothing you have written suggests you have not been 'invited'.
The odd thing is that your partner has not/didn't say 'Why are you not coming?'

He clearly doesn’t want her to come, I think you missed the point.

op, ask him, the fact you can’t is a huge red flag thay there is bigger issues in your relationship

plinkityplink · 02/04/2026 20:06

If it was me I’d turn up without letting him know in advance. There is something odd , he may not be cheating but I’d want to know what he’s told people as to why I’m not there.

NotAWurstToIt · 02/04/2026 20:09

OP I think you could try saying to him something like, I’m really curious why you assume I’m not coming to X’s function. It feels like you don’t want me to come, why is that?
On the flip side - what are you getting from this relationship? Is he kind/caring in other ways? If he’s generally a good partner the. It’s worth discussing, but if he’s overall thoughtless then maybe it’s worth evaluating if you want to stay with him?

HortiGal · 02/04/2026 20:13

You are in a relationship, why are you not able to ask him?
When he mentions an event, say what time are we leaving? or a multitude of questions.

Jellybunny98 · 02/04/2026 20:13

How is the relationship in general? Do you spend a lot of time together, do you both get time alone to see friends independently?

If everything else is good but you are together constantly then maybe he just wants a night on his own with his friends, I think that’s okay really.

If things aren’t good anyway, that’s probably the reason why.

PoppinjayPolly · 02/04/2026 20:14

Jellybunny98 · 02/04/2026 20:13

How is the relationship in general? Do you spend a lot of time together, do you both get time alone to see friends independently?

If everything else is good but you are together constantly then maybe he just wants a night on his own with his friends, I think that’s okay really.

If things aren’t good anyway, that’s probably the reason why.

This, does he see his friends on his own?

AmIJustMissingSomethingHere · 02/04/2026 20:15

crossroadsfan · 02/04/2026 19:58

Is he thoughtless in other ways? Are there other things you feel you can't broach with him?

He's not thoughtless, no. That's why I'm so confused by it.

It just feels like something has shifted, I suppose. Things I took for granted - that he enjoys my company, for example, feel under question now.

I've wondered if I've unintentionally been rude but I'm quite quiet so I don't think it's that. Maybe his friends don't like me but they're always friendly and seem as pleased to see me as anyone so I don't think it's that.

I've wondered if he's just a bit embarrassed to be seen with me?

He is quite difficult to talk to about big stuff. He doesn't like conflict so will just ignore things and hope they go away or that no one will notice or say anything which is what I think has happened here 😞

OP posts:
Jellybunny98 · 02/04/2026 20:17

If everything else is good then I wouldn’t immediately jump to he doesn’t enjoy your company.

I love my husband, I enjoy his company, but I wouldn’t want him joining every trip out I have with my friends. It’s really important to still have time to be just you, with your friends, independently.

If it’s as simple as that then I don’t think this is an issue honestly.

AmIJustMissingSomethingHere · 02/04/2026 20:18

PoppinjayPolly · 02/04/2026 20:14

This, does he see his friends on his own?

He sees some of them weekly. Most of them less often. Many of them only at these things.

I do encourage him to see his friends but he says he'd rather be at home with me or go out with me. He knows I wouldn't have a problem with it because I've told him as much before.

So I can't see why he wouldn't just say if that were the reason. I'd he honest with him in that way and have been.

OP posts:
AmIJustMissingSomethingHere · 02/04/2026 20:22

plinkityplink · 02/04/2026 20:06

If it was me I’d turn up without letting him know in advance. There is something odd , he may not be cheating but I’d want to know what he’s told people as to why I’m not there.

That's the other thing too. What reason has he given?

I wouldn't just turn up.

It won't be a lads night out because everyone else will be taking their woves/partners etc..

And I have been included before. So I've seen it for myself.

OP posts:
Springandaprayer · 02/04/2026 20:23

Has he given up smoking or drugs or something like that and maybe had slipped back into it with these friends he doesn't see so often and doesn't want you to know?

chimein · 02/04/2026 20:24

I know this will sound harsh but I think you have bigger problems in your relationship than a missed night out if you can’t even ask him a very basic question. 5 years in and he’s made you feel bad/confused and you can’t talk to him? How do you manage more important discussions? (Not minimising this one, as I’d feel the same as you).

RoniaCheetah · 02/04/2026 20:25

At the moment you're stewing over this because of last time but don't yet know that you're not invited. Why don't you try initiating a conversation - 'hey what time are WE going to X on Friday?' and see what he says. It'll force him to acknowledge you're coming, which will just be a natural response if, in his mind, you are coming OR he'll have to say 'oh you're not coming ' in which case you can ask why.

Livelovebehappy · 02/04/2026 20:26

I’m another one who thinks you just need to ask him outright. It’s strange that you’ve been together for 5 years but feel unable to just be upfront and say ‘what’s the times etc for Johns party get together? Might get myself a new outfit…’.

StudyinBlue · 02/04/2026 20:27

SuburbanKel · 02/04/2026 20:00

I don't understand. You say specifically that nobody is 'invited' - it happens, and people go.
Nothing you have written suggests you have not been 'invited'.
The odd thing is that your partner has not/didn't say 'Why are you not coming?'

This? There seems to be a serious lack of communication here. When he said ‘what are your plans for tonight’? If I thought I was going I’d have said ‘I’ll come here for 7’ or ‘I’ll meeet you there at 8’ or whatever. You didn’t say anything and he then said he was going at what ever time. He may have been thinking that you weren’t interested because you didn’t say anything. Surely at the very least you’d have said ‘I thought we were going to X’? I can’t see anything which says he’s told you you can’t go and you’re not invited.

worldshottestmom · 02/04/2026 20:30

How very odd for him to start doing this. Honestly you just need to ask him why, but perhaps don't make a big thing of it and just something like "do you want me to come with you to X event?" If he says no, ask why not.

You've mentioned he doesn't like serious conversations and you don't want to upset him, but you matter just as much as he does and he is upsetting you with all of this. If people are taking partners of 6 weeks, he owes you an explanation as to why you suddenly aren't invited anymore.

Also, him not liking serious conversations is a defence mechanism that he is using, that many people use, to avoid uncomfortable conversations in which they have to take accountability. Please do not allow it, as it seems to be the case he thinks he can just fob you off with no explanation and knows all too well that you're too timid to question it. Its odd in itself that after 5 years together you feel uncomfortable asking him why you aren't going with him.

Dont stand for it OP. You have a right to know where you stand in a relationship, and this sudden switch in behaviour and not taking you to events where couples are going, would be having me question what he really thinks about me.

Endofyear · 02/04/2026 20:31

I think it's a very basic question that you should be able to ask your partner of 5 years. If you feel unable to, that speaks volumes about the relationship. Just ask him if you want to get to the bottom of it.

FrothyCothy · 02/04/2026 20:31

I am extremely conflict averse but even I find this a bit crazy OP! If you’ve always gone to these events then I can’t see why you wouldn’t ask “what time are we heading out on Friday?” and then take it from there.

WallaceinAnderland · 02/04/2026 20:31

I wouldn't just turn up.

But you literally just said that's what the whole set up is. No invites, just turn up.

worldshottestmom · 02/04/2026 20:34

StudyinBlue · 02/04/2026 20:27

This? There seems to be a serious lack of communication here. When he said ‘what are your plans for tonight’? If I thought I was going I’d have said ‘I’ll come here for 7’ or ‘I’ll meeet you there at 8’ or whatever. You didn’t say anything and he then said he was going at what ever time. He may have been thinking that you weren’t interested because you didn’t say anything. Surely at the very least you’d have said ‘I thought we were going to X’? I can’t see anything which says he’s told you you can’t go and you’re not invited.

Interesting perspective; when I read that part i took it more as he was asking her what she was doing this evening to make it clear that his plans were separate and to reinforce that. If he wanted her to go I would of expected him to say "don't forget X's function at 8 tonight", not "what are your plans for the evening?".

That being said, I think you're entirely correct in that this relationship seems to be void of communication. Perfectly reasonable for OP to say "I thought we were going to X function together", and i can't really see why she didn't tbh.

Pearlstillsinging · 02/04/2026 20:37

I bet DP is wondering why you didn't go with him last time
If you normally go to these gigs together what was it that made you feel that this time was different? I would have just taken it that you were both going. Partner didn't say you weren't invited and was very open about
the arrangements for the evening. I imagine he expected you to go with him/meet him there