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I do love DH and he’s a good man, but … money

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yellowprimrosepink · 23/01/2026 19:17

Money is a constant bone of contention in our marriage (and we are married so theoretically share everything but in reality we don’t.)

The background is that we met late (we were both 38 at the time) so I guess had separate lives and finances. I had a fairly good job; nothing to write home about but enough. DH however earns well - around the £95,000 mark. So when we had children, I went part time and then more part time to manage school drop offs and so on and now I’m two days a week, I earn next to nothing. However DH is away, a lot, he’s able to do this because I’m always there. But the comments I get about ‘leaning on him’ and so on are really starting to piss me off.

I know he gets stressed about finances but if it wasn’t for his job I could work and therefore earn more myself. I know that’s not totally fair of me as if it wasn’t for his job I wouldn’t be able to be part time. I just wish he valued what I do.

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RandomMess · 24/01/2026 10:28

I think you do need a discussion that all the load of childcare, running a home, working and financial expenditure are joint.

Ask if he is happy in his job, how about he looks for a job without travel and then you can work and earn more but he will have to more of everything else.

Discuss a reasonable budget for everything that’s needed in a year.

How much for clothes & shoes for the DC, how much for you two.

How much for food & houshold goods.

How much for cars, phones, hair cuts, child care, parties, gifts.

I mean very very detailed.

Then it’s not you asking him for money. It’s both of you contributing to all the shared costs. Perhaps you will need to agree what can be cut back on and how. But you are both mutually accountable to sticking to it.

supersop60 · 24/01/2026 10:42

yellowprimrosepink · 23/01/2026 21:49

I’m not financially dependent on him especially @Crushed23 . But thanks for that.

Very few people, male or female, would be able to have a child or children without an element of being reliant on someone else. But it’s help I’m after here, not being told I have lived my life wrong, and if only I’d done it right I wouldn’t be in this position.

There’s a lot of ‘why did you?’ comments on MN in general. Try to ignore them.
Things will get better OP as your dc get older, and your dh needs to be aware of that. Apologies if this has already been suggested (I’ve only read the OP posts) - could you show your dh how much a cleaner, childminder etc would cost if you worked full time? Or would he expect you to bear the cost of that?
btw i met my DP when I was 39 and he 36. Already well established in our personalities, attitudes, habits etc. It meant a lot of compromises and challenges along the way, Still here 27 years later.

Breadandsticks · 24/01/2026 10:49

Sometimes, something us women accidentally do is take on ALL of the childcare. And it often leaves us in a place where the man in our life can get away with being a babysitter as opposed to a contributing parent.

It’s hard when it’s not rooted in from the beginning but you need to somehow build a culture in your house where he does some of the childcare. From your response, you are talking about how the children’s schedule affect you, and it doesn’t affect him at all!

Im guilty of this too. Im taking on all of the childcare and I have to make a conscious decision to not do everything. I tell him I’m going out, you are having him. I l’ll go and see friends or family without the kids. Things like that.

I’ve seen couples on the school run that take it in turns to do pick ups, or the dad always does one and the woman does the other - but both of your lives should be impacted by the children. Fair enough, his work can come first - but give him 3 nights a week where he must take the kids - and you go out - it can be grocery shopping, it can be a friends, it can be watch a movie.

He is getting away with not having to be an active father. He needs a responsibility.

exhaustDAD · 24/01/2026 10:50

This has always been such a weird topic between married couples I've seen over the years. I just don't get it. Similar to your case OP, I earn ok, close to what your DH makes, and my wife way less. We also have kids, etc, etc. When two people are married (even before that in some cases), I just can't consider it anything else than a partnership. We only have a joint account with my DW, there is no "my money/your money" division, we are a unit, a partnership, and our household, and everything we do is a unit. I don't monitor how much my wife spends on whatever, and neither does she. I agree in some cases when one of the people has a problem, gambling, excessive spending habits, it's worth addressing, but what I often see with people is completely alien to me, this constant bickering about how much one of them makes, hiding spendings, hiding how much one makes from the other... I've been told before that it's just being careful in case things go south - but how the heck, and why would anyone form a serious partnership, especially a marriage, half-expecting it to go bust is beyond me. Anyway, rambling over, I just don't understand people - like OP's husband - who make it a point. I couldn't care less about how much more I make than my wife..

Mumwithbaggage · 24/01/2026 10:57

@yellowprimrosepink this was me! DH worked away a lot (often abroad Mon-Fri) and earned far more than I ever could as a teacher. I facilitated his job as we had three very small children at the time.

My issue now is my own self worth and if anyone makes a dig at me not working (nearly 62) it gets to me because I feel guilty. DH works but I can't do full time in a primary school any more. Or secondary which is where I started.

In reality, it only worked because I did the job I did and took gaps/part time roles
/GCSE marking etc so he could earn good money. We were both part of the team. But it's hard. He resented working away so much, I resented him having 4 or 5 days away in a nice hotel with evenings to himself. These are the toughest years with this work pattern. Good luck!

CalmGreenEagle · 24/01/2026 10:58

exhaustDAD · 24/01/2026 10:50

This has always been such a weird topic between married couples I've seen over the years. I just don't get it. Similar to your case OP, I earn ok, close to what your DH makes, and my wife way less. We also have kids, etc, etc. When two people are married (even before that in some cases), I just can't consider it anything else than a partnership. We only have a joint account with my DW, there is no "my money/your money" division, we are a unit, a partnership, and our household, and everything we do is a unit. I don't monitor how much my wife spends on whatever, and neither does she. I agree in some cases when one of the people has a problem, gambling, excessive spending habits, it's worth addressing, but what I often see with people is completely alien to me, this constant bickering about how much one of them makes, hiding spendings, hiding how much one makes from the other... I've been told before that it's just being careful in case things go south - but how the heck, and why would anyone form a serious partnership, especially a marriage, half-expecting it to go bust is beyond me. Anyway, rambling over, I just don't understand people - like OP's husband - who make it a point. I couldn't care less about how much more I make than my wife..

It is also pointless to behave that way in a marriage because if everything did "go south" and the couple divorced the law wouldn't give a shit about who penny pinched what as everything will just be divided equally/equitably anyway.

QuickPeachPoet · 24/01/2026 11:12

If you work FT yes your extra money will be taken up by childcare but the would only be for a very short time. You have one child in school already so it would just be one in daycare. Then when she starts you will have more disposable.

Alpacajigsaw · 24/01/2026 11:29

He sounds pretty shit with money if he is stressing about finances on £95k a year. Your own attitude about separate finances being better is a bit odd as well when you earn virtually fuck all.

EdithBond · 24/01/2026 11:38

It can really help to view running a family household like running a business.

There are numerous tasks to be done, and timelines to meet, for the efficient and stress-free running of the household, and to ensure children get as much time with both parents as possible.

We model norms to our children. If they see the mother doing the bulk of this work, boys will assume that’s what women do (and are less likely to be a supportive partner to a woman) and girls will assume this also (and risk being voluntarily saddled with most of the work when a mother).

When people choose to have children, they must assume they’ll be responsible for 50% of the childcare, on the regular, as a starting point. Of course, this can be negotiated either way, as the couple work as a team to cover this, or arrange unpaid or paid help from elsewhere. But this should be the starting point. Same with household chores. And it must be negotiated. Not assumed. Mothers are not unpaid servants.

It’s v difficult to work away regularly and erratically if you have children. That eats into your 50% and also means either the other parent has to be v flexible (difficult if they work) or the unpaid/paid help with childcare has to be v flexible (also difficult).

So, as a starting point, your DH should strongly consider if the working patterns of his job are conducive to his parenting responsibilities (at least for the next decade or so when kids can’t be left at home alone - not forever). So far, they have been, as you’ve been extremely accommodating as the other parent. You may have been happy with this when your children are pre-school. But, long-term it’s affecting your earnings, pension, career (which gives you a purpose and sense of self outside the family) and financial independence. That’s a huge compromise to accommodate your DH in not meeting his parental responsibilities.

Even if your relationship were to stay solid and he recompensed you for lost income and financial security (pension, savings), you never know what life throws at you. If (heaven forbid) he died young or became too disabled or sick to work, you’d have a lot of sudden financial insecurity in addition to adjusting to a big life shock, unless this was well-covered by life insurance.

As for how you handle money while he’s the higher earner? How much is childcare (e.g. good childminder/nanny) in your area per hour? Add up all the childcare hours (i.e. when you’re responsible for at least one child, including overnight). Divide by the two of you. If DH does less than 50%, he has to pay you the going rate for the cover you provide for his share. Same with household chores. Work out how many hours per week/month, including cleaning, laundry, cooking, life admin etc. If he does less than his 50%, he pays you the going rate for the rest or pays for paid help.

You then pay equally towards the bills. If you already do your 50% of childcare, he pays any additional childcare costs, e.g, afterschool clubs. If your total pay from your job and your partner doesn’t result in enough money to cover your share, you have to increase your earnings, by working more hours. If you’re still doing your 50% of the childcare, he either has to flex to cover more of his 50% to allow you to work more or organise and pay for his share of the childcare you can no longer cover. But that’s his responsibility.

Viewing it as a business arrangement, to be negotiated, can really get people out of the mindset of assuming looking after kids, including overnight, is having a relaxing time at home. It’s not. It’s hard work. That’s why childcare professionals get paid for it. Same with household chores. Cleaners and administrators are paid. If someone doesn’t want to do their share of these things themselves, they must be prepared to pay someone else to do it, whether a partner or professional.

Too many couples assume that if the mother is in paid work, she should pay for childcare. If a relationship and society is to be equitable, and we’re to close the gender pay gap, this is wrong. She should only pay to cover her 50%.

OneNeatCat · 24/01/2026 11:58

supersop60 · 24/01/2026 10:42

There’s a lot of ‘why did you?’ comments on MN in general. Try to ignore them.
Things will get better OP as your dc get older, and your dh needs to be aware of that. Apologies if this has already been suggested (I’ve only read the OP posts) - could you show your dh how much a cleaner, childminder etc would cost if you worked full time? Or would he expect you to bear the cost of that?
btw i met my DP when I was 39 and he 36. Already well established in our personalities, attitudes, habits etc. It meant a lot of compromises and challenges along the way, Still here 27 years later.

And happy @supersop60 ?

Miloarmadillo2 · 24/01/2026 12:00

You are not working as a team - maybe because you got together and had children later in life? Separate finances just doesn’t work when one of you does the lion’s share of the unpaid and undervalued work of looking after your joint children and home. You are taking a huge hit in terms of your career progression and pension contributions to allow him to swan about in his big job doing last minute trips whilst you keep the family going.
Our family set up has been similar - I have worked 20 hours whilst our kids were small - for about 10 years until youngest was at school, and now I work 30-40 hours but my husband has the better paid and more exciting job in that he goes travel a fair bit. The difference is all our money goes in one pot to pay the bills and we have equal spending money. We agree on how family money is spent and we have our own money to spend as we wish without criticism from the other parent.
One parent working and paying all the bills and the other being SAHP and doing all the childcare and housework is fair and easy to understand- both parents working full time, sharing the domestic load 50:50 and outsourcing childcare and cleaning is fair (and if they earn similar amounts splitting all the costs). You’re in a grey zone in the middle and I don’t think you have found the balancing point.

CannotBeInterestedInYourDrama · 24/01/2026 12:04

Did he work away before you had the children?
Presumably, you all enjoy the benefits of his earning such good money?

What would you like him to do - change his job? Earn less but be at home more?

PollyPlumPeach · 24/01/2026 12:10

I can only reiterate that my going to work full time at this stage would have a hugely detrimental effect on me and the children. I know people do it; some of my friends do, I have great admiration for them but I know I would end up stressed, exhausted, angry, resentful and a very poor mother and indeed teacher for it! Some things just are not worth money.

Presumably you therefore understand why hubby is exhausted, angry and resentful, and you will be supportive of him dropping his salary by reducing his hours so he isn't so grumpy all the time. Some things are more important than money.

chateauneufdupapa · 24/01/2026 12:11

I have less sympathy since you replied saying you think having separate finances as a married couple is actually OK. You’re just being weak and enabling his selfishness. You must know this really isn’t okay.

CalmGreenEagle · 24/01/2026 12:42

chateauneufdupapa · 24/01/2026 12:11

I have less sympathy since you replied saying you think having separate finances as a married couple is actually OK. You’re just being weak and enabling his selfishness. You must know this really isn’t okay.

Of course she does. She wouldn't have posted on here otherwise as there wouldn't be a problem to post about.

Duveet · 24/01/2026 12:54

You are in an abusive marriage but don't want to hear it.
He works because you facilitate it.
You are going to remain in this situation, treated abusively for as long as you tolerate it.
I feel very sorry for your children whom absolutely will be absorbing his awful treatment of you.
Domestic abuse charities exist for women like you.
Call them.
Abuse isn't just being assaulted.

Oh and he most certainly is not a good man🙄.

supersop60 · 24/01/2026 13:39

OneNeatCat · 24/01/2026 11:58

And happy @supersop60 ?

Happy enough, although if you read my latest thread, you’d think not!

Grammarninja · 24/01/2026 18:21

You're both doing your best for the family but he seems to think he's doing more. He needs to recognise your value and what you're contributing. Calculate all the hours you have your kids solo per week. Even at minimum wage, you will out-earn him theoretically, nevermind what it would actually cost to hire someone to do it.
Then there's your p/t income. If he's a logical, money-oriented person, this approach should work.

Blades2 · 24/01/2026 19:24

Your marriage nearly ended last year and you can’t have an adult conversation with him without him becoming defensive and shitty?

I think it’s either time for some marriage therapy or a look at separation.

Ellie56 · 24/01/2026 19:54

I do love DH and he’s a good man, but …

Nope. You might love him, but as is so often the case, from your posts, he is not a good man.

Ellie56 · 24/01/2026 19:59

Where do women find these arseholes anyway? These threads are full of them.😡

Ohnobackagain · 24/01/2026 20:57

@yellowprimrosepink could you work out what a nanny would cost and tell him that’s what you’re contributing on top of your earnings?

Magicunicornpower · 24/01/2026 22:03

I could have been the one writing this. Once in an argument he said if I expected to live in our house rent free forever. I thought about LTB but we have a young daughter and honestly I don't even know where to start to get back on my feet on my own. I feel your pain. It's horrible putting our life on hold and prioritize everything but our own career and be always available for the family and don't be appreciated for it. We've done therapy... Didn't do much for us

ForCoralScroller · 24/01/2026 22:43

yellowprimrosepink · 23/01/2026 19:17

Money is a constant bone of contention in our marriage (and we are married so theoretically share everything but in reality we don’t.)

The background is that we met late (we were both 38 at the time) so I guess had separate lives and finances. I had a fairly good job; nothing to write home about but enough. DH however earns well - around the £95,000 mark. So when we had children, I went part time and then more part time to manage school drop offs and so on and now I’m two days a week, I earn next to nothing. However DH is away, a lot, he’s able to do this because I’m always there. But the comments I get about ‘leaning on him’ and so on are really starting to piss me off.

I know he gets stressed about finances but if it wasn’t for his job I could work and therefore earn more myself. I know that’s not totally fair of me as if it wasn’t for his job I wouldn’t be able to be part time. I just wish he valued what I do.

I honestly don't understand people like you... He's your husband... speak to him, not us!!!

GaIadriel · 24/01/2026 23:05

Clarabell77 · 24/01/2026 03:27

If this was patriarchy bingo your post would get you a full house.

As a high earner in a full time senior role I feel justified in saying the real work is the unpaid, unrecognised, constantly undermined work that goes on to keep a household running and an economy functioning.

Well, at least you didn't mention 'internalised misogyny' otherwise you'd have defo been tonight's Gala winner!

And you're being a bit selective. Having ten kids and never having worked is the other end of the spectrum and defo not keeping the economy functioning.