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Husband has left, Emotional Affair with Colleague, Can I save this?

358 replies

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 07:06

Husband of 14 years left 3 weeks ago, just told me he'd had enough, was unhappy, wanted to end it. Up and left to go stay with his sister, totally blindsided and devastated. We haven't been happy in our relationship for years, we have 2 young children and I have been in the trenches as it were with them, he has been head down, concentrating on his business. I have done the lion share of the care/parenting/house etc, you know the drill, working part time around their needs, feeling like I'm drowning or on a constant treadmill. We have no support from parents either side. This has caused resentments over the years with very few concessions from him, or admitting he should help more. He has been working extremely hard on his business, has had periods of burnout and dizzy spells and had reluctantly admitted (since he left) that he had been focussing on this and not us. I will admit we have had a dreadful communication style between us, with me pleading for help at times, him being defensive and dismissive, sulking on both sides then very little repair, just a gradually going back to normal after a few weeks, he has ot slightly better over time, helping a bit more, but it wasn't enough and he has said he felt that whatever he did was never good enough. I have been carrying lots of 'scars' from when I have felt let down and unsupported by him, he I think has felt unloved by me. On top of the communication style, I have been going through the menopause with all of the dreadful symptoms, including not wanting to be touched or intimate. He knew this but I admit I had been keeping a lot of how I was feeling to myself, as is my style plus through almost burnout myself, and just getting my head down and getting on with the jobs that needed doing.

My 2 kids are traumatised by him leaving, we have just been getting by. In his leaving speech to me,after some pressure from me, he admitted he has declared feelings for a married colleague and she has told him the same, that she is also leaving an unhappy marriage with her 3 children, he has assured me that nothing physical has happened but I'm not convinced. They are going to be at the same event together next week for 2 days/1 night. He knows I know this, it has been planned for 6 months, a work thing. He keeps saying 'nothing has happened', 'I haven't gone behind your back', but I think, as he's already told me he wants out and has left, that mentally he will think if something happens physically, that that won't be cheating. I'm not sure how I am going to cope with these two days, knowing they will be together. I still love him, I still want to try to work things out. We are in a dreadful place. We talked 2 days ago, the first time properly since he left, both admitting how we had been feeling for years and it turns out he thought I had been treating him like a doormat and I thought the exact same of him, we just hadn't been expressing it to each other or accepting each others feelings. Although I have tried in the past, this would, I felt, fall on deaf ears.

He has said his reason for ending it has got nothing to do with the other woman, and is purely because he is so unhappy in our relationship. That it is just a coincidence that she is also leaving at the same time..

How can I tell him not to take that step next week when they are together, and do anything physical with her? Should I? I know this will appear like I'm begging him but I love him and I cannot bear the thought of him kissing or being with another person. If I don't say anything, I think he will take that as my knowing he is going to do something anyway, that because he's already told me he's leaving, he can do it with a clearer conscience. I want him back, or at the very least, I want him to not take that step with her, so we can work on our relationship, even if it's just so we can not damage it further, but I don't know if me telling him that will push him further away?

OP posts:
Pricelessadvice · 04/12/2025 07:09

He’s already gone OP. He’s having an affair, whether it’s got physical yet or not.
I’m so sorry x

CharlotteLightandDark · 04/12/2025 07:09

The marriage sounds well and truly dead to me.
you’re just panicking because of the sudden change/loss which is normal but after a while you’ll see that it’s probably for the best that it ends because it sounds like you’ve both been miserable for years.

CleanShirt · 04/12/2025 07:09

@BarnabyRocks I'm so sorry this is happening to you. I had exactly the same 2 years ago - absolutely out of the blue and he left me for a female colleague.

Don't focus on trying to pull him back, focus on you. Therapy helped me immensely, as did learning the grey rock method.

Read the book Runaway Husbands and look at the chump lady website for some really helpful insights.

One day at a time. You got this x

Egglio · 04/12/2025 07:11

This isn't out of the blue though - you're describing a marriage that has been unhappy for both of you for years with neither of you doing anything about it. It's a big change, and it's scary, but it sounds like ending it is best for everyone. It's not the best way to do it, but it's done and he has left.

3luckystars · 04/12/2025 07:13

Your relationship sounds absolutely terrible, why do you want it anymore? I know people want to stay together ‘for the kids’ but you are better off on your own than with the wrong person. This is awful on every level. Im
sorry x

3luckystars · 04/12/2025 07:13

CleanShirt · 04/12/2025 07:09

@BarnabyRocks I'm so sorry this is happening to you. I had exactly the same 2 years ago - absolutely out of the blue and he left me for a female colleague.

Don't focus on trying to pull him back, focus on you. Therapy helped me immensely, as did learning the grey rock method.

Read the book Runaway Husbands and look at the chump lady website for some really helpful insights.

One day at a time. You got this x

But it’s not out of the blue at all?

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 04/12/2025 07:14

I think fear is driving your response.
Even without the EA this spunds like a terrible marriage.

LizzieSiddal · 04/12/2025 07:18

You must be in absolute shock and I’m sorry this is happening. However from your description of your marriage, it doesn’t sound happy at all.

Are you really sure you want this relationship to continue?

FirstdatesFred · 04/12/2025 07:19

It's very painful but he has the right to end the marriage. And at least he's doing that rather than carrying on a full blown affair.

Bringemout · 04/12/2025 07:24

Honestly it sounds like it’s been bad for a while. He actually sounds like a not particularly good husband or father either and you don’t actually sound like you particularly like him anyway. I think it’s the shock thats making you feel like this. It’s discombobulating because you’ve got used to things as they are. None of this sounds like it was healthy or happy.

I think you may be better off changing the locks incase he tries to come back.

CrazyGoatLady · 04/12/2025 07:41

First @BarnabyRocks I'm sorry you and your kids are going through this. It's always a horrible process.

In your OP, you say there's been:
Resentment on both sides
Neither of you prioritising the marriage - you prioritising the kids, him prioritising his business.
No intimacy
A "dreadful communication style" in your words
You've had to beg and plead him for support and help.
He's now having an affair, the extent of which is almost certainly more than he's told you.

I get that change is hard - but what exactly would you be saving here?

RealEagle · 04/12/2025 07:42

He has declared his feelings for another woman ,but nothing has happened? Really !

Starlight7080 · 04/12/2025 07:46

Something more would have happened between them both. You dont leave a marriage just for someone you have talked too. The other woman will have made sure he was worth it or her feeling for him are real.
They wont have just chatted .
He is being a coward not telling you the truth.

Franklyannoyed · 04/12/2025 07:50

I’m sorry op; but I think you know you can’t tell him not to be with someone else. He’s already left, the marriage is over. You may get back together, who knows, it is unlikely, but he will be with whom he chooses, as hard as that is.

phrase it in your mind this way, would you let an ex decide who you got involved with, I suspect the answer is no.

I think the other thing to realise, is for you this is new and raw. For him it is not. He’s been building up to this for a long time. I suspect he is leaving for thid other woman, and they have already been intimate, so this time won’t be the first.

try to focus on you, as hard as that is,

Franklyannoyed · 04/12/2025 07:51

Starlight7080 · 04/12/2025 07:46

Something more would have happened between them both. You dont leave a marriage just for someone you have talked too. The other woman will have made sure he was worth it or her feeling for him are real.
They wont have just chatted .
He is being a coward not telling you the truth.

I agree an element of cowardice, as well as self preservation. But also in part it is less hurtful if she beleives it, which it seems she does.

Mix56 · 04/12/2025 08:01

Your marriage was unhappy, You were unhappy. Honestly it sounds like this is your new chance to thrive.
You dont really get to call the shots, he has left, he hasn't said he wants to fix anything. He is loving if up with new woman, —& swopping his 2 kids for her 3–
Although it still may not work out….
Sorry if I were you i’d start collecting all financial paperwork before it goes missing. He has had a head start, he has been building up to this for weeks/months.

Franklyannoyed · 04/12/2025 08:01

Mix56 · 04/12/2025 08:01

Your marriage was unhappy, You were unhappy. Honestly it sounds like this is your new chance to thrive.
You dont really get to call the shots, he has left, he hasn't said he wants to fix anything. He is loving if up with new woman, —& swopping his 2 kids for her 3–
Although it still may not work out….
Sorry if I were you i’d start collecting all financial paperwork before it goes missing. He has had a head start, he has been building up to this for weeks/months.

Edited

He’s not swapping his kids, why would you say such a thing. How horrible.

Dymaxion · 04/12/2025 08:06

He’s not swapping his kids, why would you say such a thing. How horrible.

It would be more accurate to say he is going from 2 to 5 children, how that pan's out, given it doesn't sound as though he is particularly interested in the 2 he has already, is anyone's guess.

YodasHairyButt · 04/12/2025 08:13

There is no way this isn’t a full
blown affair already. I know that’s hard to hear, but you need to protect yourself now and hope of a reconciliation is just going to torture you. Let him go and concentrate on yourself and your kids. It’s going to be hard but you’ve been so unhappy for so long, it will get better if you can plough through the pain and shock. Big hug x

Horses7 · 04/12/2025 08:15

Pricelessadvice · 04/12/2025 07:09

He’s already gone OP. He’s having an affair, whether it’s got physical yet or not.
I’m so sorry x

I’m afraid this is most likely true.
I’m so sorry - I hope you get lots of help and advice here. Stay strong for your little ones.

Cerialkiller · 04/12/2025 08:16

Does he realise that his precious business is a marital asset?

Personally I would go and see a solicitor asap and see where you stand. Divorce is a long road but will help with acceptance. The sooner the better

Don't be surprised if he comes crawling back in a few weeks/months, you need to decide what you want in that instance. Frankly it sounds stupid to take him back (assuming it even happens) as it wasn't great to begin with and him returning to the house will just be more of the same with the added burden of resentment and betrayal. Also an opportunity for him to play you off with the other woman so you 'behave'.

Most cheaters, cheat more then once in my experience. Let him cheat on the affair partner, not you (again).

I too am highly sceptical about his claim. Two people fall in love and blow up both their marriages and 5 kids lives when they haven't even had sex, yeah riiiiight!

Mix56 · 04/12/2025 08:17

I meant, he will most likely be living with her children full time, not his own, ( other than week ends)

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 08:22

Thank you everyone for the comments so far. It is extremely painful for me to read what I know are honest responses.
He does deserve to be happy, we both do. I thought/hoped things would improve. I take responsibility for not improving it in the past, I have tried to broach this in my own way, but don't feel like it was accepted by him, he does have a quite dismissive attitude towards house work/parenting (he absolutely disputes this, has been adamant for years that he thought he contributed 50/50, still does maintain this, when it has been more like 90-10% at times).

I suppose I am trying to start again or try to re-start our relationship, because I think (I know this is a stage of grief) it can be better and also because of the damage it is causing to the children. I know I am being desperate but I feel desperate. I have booked a counselling appointment.
Finances- I am on it, looking into those, he saying everything is declared/he has been upfront about it all.

I have said he must think I am stupid to believe 'nothing has happened' between them, I have pressed and pressed on this and asked him to tell the truth. I have said all of the things to him mentioned above, such as no-one leaves a marriage on the strength of one telephone conversation, but he is insistent 'nothing has happened and that he is leaving becuase of us, it's just a coincidence that she is also leaving her husband at the same time... yeah right.

Part of me wants to speak to her or her husband, so she knows the devastation this is causing. I know how to contact her, I also want to tell her husband what has been going on for a what I think is a very long time. Should I do that? Even just to get it off my chest? I worry if I do that it will drive them closer together.
I am aware of how pathetic I sound, I need all the advice/help i can get.

OP posts:
bignewprinz · 04/12/2025 08:22

You're panicking and fighting for something which is not worth fighting for. He's gone - checked out. Even if he returned, it would likely only be temporary.

In the pit of despair and anguish you are in, the best thing you can do is ignore all the tricks your mind is playing on you and accept the status quo.

You tell him you want a divorce. Be cold and clinical with him. Keep the emotion out of it. Speak to a solicitor.

Fake it til you make it. Get support from friends and family, but don't plead or cry to him. At some point soon you'll see this for what it is: a new start, a life infinitely better than what you had before

Franklyannoyed · 04/12/2025 08:22

Dymaxion · 04/12/2025 08:06

He’s not swapping his kids, why would you say such a thing. How horrible.

It would be more accurate to say he is going from 2 to 5 children, how that pan's out, given it doesn't sound as though he is particularly interested in the 2 he has already, is anyone's guess.

Yes this is more accurate, but I don’t think it’s fair to say he is disinterested in his own kids simply as she does most of the child related care. She said they are traumatised by his leaving, which indicates a strong relationship

I really dislike it when someone posts a marriage breaks down and people make horrible comments about the kids. A marriage ending doesn’t mean he’s swapping his kids, disinterested in the kids etc, he’s leaving his wife, not the children, and as much as no they won’t live together and Custody needs to be arranged, and yes there is likely a blended family, plenty of marriages end and although the dynamic changes children can be still shown to be loved and cared for.

so as much as the kids are unhappy now, they’ve been living in an unhappy home for a long time, there is no way they don’t know the marriage was unhappy and in time it is better for them to have two happy parents than live with two miserable ones.