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Husband has left, Emotional Affair with Colleague, Can I save this?

358 replies

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 07:06

Husband of 14 years left 3 weeks ago, just told me he'd had enough, was unhappy, wanted to end it. Up and left to go stay with his sister, totally blindsided and devastated. We haven't been happy in our relationship for years, we have 2 young children and I have been in the trenches as it were with them, he has been head down, concentrating on his business. I have done the lion share of the care/parenting/house etc, you know the drill, working part time around their needs, feeling like I'm drowning or on a constant treadmill. We have no support from parents either side. This has caused resentments over the years with very few concessions from him, or admitting he should help more. He has been working extremely hard on his business, has had periods of burnout and dizzy spells and had reluctantly admitted (since he left) that he had been focussing on this and not us. I will admit we have had a dreadful communication style between us, with me pleading for help at times, him being defensive and dismissive, sulking on both sides then very little repair, just a gradually going back to normal after a few weeks, he has ot slightly better over time, helping a bit more, but it wasn't enough and he has said he felt that whatever he did was never good enough. I have been carrying lots of 'scars' from when I have felt let down and unsupported by him, he I think has felt unloved by me. On top of the communication style, I have been going through the menopause with all of the dreadful symptoms, including not wanting to be touched or intimate. He knew this but I admit I had been keeping a lot of how I was feeling to myself, as is my style plus through almost burnout myself, and just getting my head down and getting on with the jobs that needed doing.

My 2 kids are traumatised by him leaving, we have just been getting by. In his leaving speech to me,after some pressure from me, he admitted he has declared feelings for a married colleague and she has told him the same, that she is also leaving an unhappy marriage with her 3 children, he has assured me that nothing physical has happened but I'm not convinced. They are going to be at the same event together next week for 2 days/1 night. He knows I know this, it has been planned for 6 months, a work thing. He keeps saying 'nothing has happened', 'I haven't gone behind your back', but I think, as he's already told me he wants out and has left, that mentally he will think if something happens physically, that that won't be cheating. I'm not sure how I am going to cope with these two days, knowing they will be together. I still love him, I still want to try to work things out. We are in a dreadful place. We talked 2 days ago, the first time properly since he left, both admitting how we had been feeling for years and it turns out he thought I had been treating him like a doormat and I thought the exact same of him, we just hadn't been expressing it to each other or accepting each others feelings. Although I have tried in the past, this would, I felt, fall on deaf ears.

He has said his reason for ending it has got nothing to do with the other woman, and is purely because he is so unhappy in our relationship. That it is just a coincidence that she is also leaving at the same time..

How can I tell him not to take that step next week when they are together, and do anything physical with her? Should I? I know this will appear like I'm begging him but I love him and I cannot bear the thought of him kissing or being with another person. If I don't say anything, I think he will take that as my knowing he is going to do something anyway, that because he's already told me he's leaving, he can do it with a clearer conscience. I want him back, or at the very least, I want him to not take that step with her, so we can work on our relationship, even if it's just so we can not damage it further, but I don't know if me telling him that will push him further away?

OP posts:
sunshinestar1986 · 04/12/2025 10:57

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 07:06

Husband of 14 years left 3 weeks ago, just told me he'd had enough, was unhappy, wanted to end it. Up and left to go stay with his sister, totally blindsided and devastated. We haven't been happy in our relationship for years, we have 2 young children and I have been in the trenches as it were with them, he has been head down, concentrating on his business. I have done the lion share of the care/parenting/house etc, you know the drill, working part time around their needs, feeling like I'm drowning or on a constant treadmill. We have no support from parents either side. This has caused resentments over the years with very few concessions from him, or admitting he should help more. He has been working extremely hard on his business, has had periods of burnout and dizzy spells and had reluctantly admitted (since he left) that he had been focussing on this and not us. I will admit we have had a dreadful communication style between us, with me pleading for help at times, him being defensive and dismissive, sulking on both sides then very little repair, just a gradually going back to normal after a few weeks, he has ot slightly better over time, helping a bit more, but it wasn't enough and he has said he felt that whatever he did was never good enough. I have been carrying lots of 'scars' from when I have felt let down and unsupported by him, he I think has felt unloved by me. On top of the communication style, I have been going through the menopause with all of the dreadful symptoms, including not wanting to be touched or intimate. He knew this but I admit I had been keeping a lot of how I was feeling to myself, as is my style plus through almost burnout myself, and just getting my head down and getting on with the jobs that needed doing.

My 2 kids are traumatised by him leaving, we have just been getting by. In his leaving speech to me,after some pressure from me, he admitted he has declared feelings for a married colleague and she has told him the same, that she is also leaving an unhappy marriage with her 3 children, he has assured me that nothing physical has happened but I'm not convinced. They are going to be at the same event together next week for 2 days/1 night. He knows I know this, it has been planned for 6 months, a work thing. He keeps saying 'nothing has happened', 'I haven't gone behind your back', but I think, as he's already told me he wants out and has left, that mentally he will think if something happens physically, that that won't be cheating. I'm not sure how I am going to cope with these two days, knowing they will be together. I still love him, I still want to try to work things out. We are in a dreadful place. We talked 2 days ago, the first time properly since he left, both admitting how we had been feeling for years and it turns out he thought I had been treating him like a doormat and I thought the exact same of him, we just hadn't been expressing it to each other or accepting each others feelings. Although I have tried in the past, this would, I felt, fall on deaf ears.

He has said his reason for ending it has got nothing to do with the other woman, and is purely because he is so unhappy in our relationship. That it is just a coincidence that she is also leaving at the same time..

How can I tell him not to take that step next week when they are together, and do anything physical with her? Should I? I know this will appear like I'm begging him but I love him and I cannot bear the thought of him kissing or being with another person. If I don't say anything, I think he will take that as my knowing he is going to do something anyway, that because he's already told me he's leaving, he can do it with a clearer conscience. I want him back, or at the very least, I want him to not take that step with her, so we can work on our relationship, even if it's just so we can not damage it further, but I don't know if me telling him that will push him further away?

Just focus on your future without him.
Make him have the kids a lot so you can focus on your career too.

Purplecatshopaholic · 04/12/2025 10:58

I’m so sorry op (been there, it sucks). He’s checked out, this is over. Yes, he’s shagging her, he wants to look like he’s not the bad one. I wouldn’t bother contacting her either, she won’t care. Once you get over the shock, I agree with others, your new fabulous life will emerge from the ashes and you will wish you dumped him before now. Take some time to reflect, focus on you and on your kids (obvs decent co-parenting arrangements will need to be made, this may be made difficult by him). See a lawyer as soon as you can bear to (I wouldn’t leave it too long tbh), he is not your friend any more. Btw, I bet he backtracks at some point when he realises the reality - maybe allow yourself a wee inward smile and crack on with your new life without the cheating, lying sad excuse for a husband.

frozendaisy · 04/12/2025 10:58

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 10:40

Yes, my hunch is that he is saying he wants 50/50 so that he doesn't have to pay maintenance.

50/50 though means 50% costs of everything
school uniform
clubs
shoes
everything

it also means 50% of holidays, sick days, doctor appointments, dentist appointments etc
it means 50% school drop offs and pick ups

it doesn’t mean 50% just sleeps

make sure you are very very clear on this

and if he tries “I’ll drop at school you pick up”

no
because it’s the 3.30pm pick up that breaks up an average day

“but I won’t be able to work full time if I have to do 50% pick ups”
“so neither will I”

50/50 no maintenance means 50/50

Hendersso · 04/12/2025 11:00

If he was interested in saving your marriage he wouldn’t have left. He could have suggested counselling etc. You don’t need the details of what he has or hasn’t done. It will hurt you more. On those dates can you plan to keep busy with friends and family and not be alone. You need to concentrate on you, counselling is a good first step. Protect yourself and your kids enough damage has been done. It will get better. You both deserve to be happy. Rushing into another relationship is unlikely to work but that’s his problem.

Trees6 · 04/12/2025 11:02

Be careful that 50:50 doesn’t turn into 75:25 if you agree to this. He sounds like someone who might not adhere to it, stealthily. Speak to your solicitor asap if you haven’t already.

Leafy3 · 04/12/2025 11:04

If nothing physical hasn't happened between then yet, he's telling you it will. This way he can start up with her guilt free.
Also the thing about the timing being pure coincidence is bull, he's lying to himself as much as you, he's trying to ensure he doesn't come out of this as a cheater.
Sending support op Flowers

BeaRightThere · 04/12/2025 11:06

CleanShirt · 04/12/2025 07:09

@BarnabyRocks I'm so sorry this is happening to you. I had exactly the same 2 years ago - absolutely out of the blue and he left me for a female colleague.

Don't focus on trying to pull him back, focus on you. Therapy helped me immensely, as did learning the grey rock method.

Read the book Runaway Husbands and look at the chump lady website for some really helpful insights.

One day at a time. You got this x

Every thread like this someone rolls out bloody Chump Lady. What is the point? This isn't out of the blue or a surprise, OP's marriage has clearly been dead in the water for years

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 11:08

I am reading all of your replies, thanks everyone of you for your kind words and brilliant advice. I have lost a stone already and I'm only able to sleep for a few hours at a time. I feel like I've swallowed rocks. I have some lovely, supportive friends, they don't all live nearby but have been keeping in touch. Most of them know but It's exhausting telling people. I haven't even told my siblings yet, but I will today.
He is incredibly financially savvy and has 'managed'/controlled the finances for years, which I know I should've taken more of a handle on.I'm going through those today.
I honestly don't know know how I will get through the next few days, let alone those days next week when I know they'll be together.
I am telling as many people as possible what the reality is because I feel like I've been keeping it a secret for the last 3 weeks. xx

OP posts:
ThatCyanCat · 04/12/2025 11:12

BeaRightThere · 04/12/2025 11:06

Every thread like this someone rolls out bloody Chump Lady. What is the point? This isn't out of the blue or a surprise, OP's marriage has clearly been dead in the water for years

Is this a serious question? It's an infidelity support site. Why would it not be relevant because the marriage has been in trouble for a while?

Americano75 · 04/12/2025 11:14

Oh love, I'm so sorry. I've been where you are and it's awful, you feel like life will never be OK again. But you will be OK, I promise.

For a start, stop being so bloody hard on yourself and find your rage. Do you think he's given a single second to reflect on why things have come to this? Has he fuck, trust me. Time to focus on you and your children, he's proved himself more than capable of taking care of himself.

GloriaMonday · 04/12/2025 11:18

I honestly don't know know how I will get through the next few days, let alone those days next week when I know they'll be together.
You will get through it. Don't think about them together.

Your children will always love you no matter what. Stay strong for them and for you. Try to eat something nourishing even if it's not much.

deardeb · 04/12/2025 11:20

I know i may get hate for this but i always remind people:

Most Men work off Physical touch/their intimacy needs being met
Most women work off emotions/their emotional needs being met

if you both don't meet these needs for the other, you are doomed to have issues.

That said, do not be put off by people from Trying to mend this, it's never too late. I got back with my ex after 5 years apart and we had another child each after our eldest..

MowingMachine · 04/12/2025 11:21

OP, this is an awful situation. You've had some great advice here.

What I will add is, let him have as much custody as he thinks he wants. That will come as a shock to him, and to her, when he actually has to look after his own kids.

GloriaMonday · 04/12/2025 11:25

@MowingMachine , I think we all know this, and it doesn't really help the OP.
The trouble is that women find it hard to fancy the man when the emotional need isn't being met and they're knackered from running a house and family.

5128gap · 04/12/2025 11:27

I'm so sorry OP, but your husband is almost certainly going to progress things with this woman at the event.
You can't stop this, and even if you pleaded with him and extracted a promise, in the unlikely event he didn't break it, you're simply postponing the inevitable.
Your marriage is unhappy and he's got an alternative. He's done the hard part in telling you, and wild horses won't stop him 'rewarding himself' with this woman.
I'm sorry this will hurt you, but its something far better faced as inevitable rather than living in hope you can stop it and then being crushed again.
You need to accept your 'rock bottom' and then you can start to climb up. You've been trapped for a long time in a situation where you're miserable. You're now being forced out if it and have the chance to build a better future.

Hermyknee · 04/12/2025 11:31

Doesn't sound great as a cost-benefit analysis for him. He’ll go from avoiding 2 kids to avoiding 5. Presumably the limerence will wear off when reality sets in, then he’ll be sorting out his own housework in his bachelor pad with money going out on kids that live somewhere else and he doesn’t get the benefit of having a good relationship with.

YourRealAquaOP · 04/12/2025 11:31

So sorry this is happening to you.This happened to my daughter he went off with the next door neighbour who was her best friend yeah right,and yes she was devastated with three young children,but with everyone's help she trained to be a nurse and she is now happily married so there is a light at the end of the tunnel you will be happy again.

MO0N · 04/12/2025 11:35

I'm so sorry OP, another man whose selfishness makes him incapable of being a good parent or a good partner.
You will get yourself together and when you do you can watch his life turn into a train wreck.

TicTac80 · 04/12/2025 11:38

OP, you'll be ok. I know it's early days and you're reeling at the moment. Keep talking to friends and tell your family so that they can support you. Take each minute/hour/day at a time - you've got through the last 3 weeks already. Eat little and often, take a multivitamin each day. Maybe do a change about of your bedroom layout so it's a bit more like your own. If he has his stuff laying about everywhere, it might be worth packing it away so you're not faced with it all the time.

Re: the 50:50 with the kids. I'd be surprised if this actually happens. Don't agree to anything (either to do with finances or the DC custody arrangements) until you've gathered the info you need and have got solid legal advice. I'd not even talk to him at the moment unless absolutely necessary (stay polite/formal and keep it to text message/email) - just focus on sorting out yourself and the DC.

You're worried about when he will be together with her. Sod him, leave him to it. This EA/affair is all shiny and new at the moment. Give it time for real life to sink in for him (and for her!). I'd be laughing my ass off that someone who wasn't engaging with his own two DC, or pulling his weight in the household (yes, I know he was the main earner - I was the breadwinner too, but I still managed to parent my DC and run the bloody house etc) is suddenly going to find Shiny New Life with Shiny New OW and her 3 DC all wonderful and magical. I won't lie, I was bloody devastated when I found out about OW. But then I soon came to realise how much more peaceful and easy my life was as a single parent, and figured that OW was more than welcome to bloody well keep XH. They lasted another 4months after I found out. What sort of a relationship will they have knowing that they've likely cheated on their spouses (to me, an EA is cheating) and then fucked off together? What sort of a foundation does their relationship have? I've never cheated or been the OW, but I imagine that if I was OW, I'd be constantly worrying that my partner would cheat on me.

Even if - by some miracle - he came back to you....would you be able to trust him? Would you want to be with someone who would just bugger off like that? I get he'd had enough, but it doesn't look like he was particularly communicative. Had he wanted to work on things, a proper sit down chat with you and a request for couples counselling surely would have been the better bet.

@deardeb, it's really great that you guys have mended and sorted things. I've known of two couples who managed this (and got through infidelity). Both the guys had cheated. But both the guys 'fessed up and were honest from then on in (not just with their spouses but with family and friends too). They worked hard to regain trust and were guided by what their spouses wanted. Their relationships are brilliant now. So I know that things are never just black and white.

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 11:39

frozendaisy · 04/12/2025 10:58

50/50 though means 50% costs of everything
school uniform
clubs
shoes
everything

it also means 50% of holidays, sick days, doctor appointments, dentist appointments etc
it means 50% school drop offs and pick ups

it doesn’t mean 50% just sleeps

make sure you are very very clear on this

and if he tries “I’ll drop at school you pick up”

no
because it’s the 3.30pm pick up that breaks up an average day

“but I won’t be able to work full time if I have to do 50% pick ups”
“so neither will I”

50/50 no maintenance means 50/50

Thank you, great advice. I really do not know where to start with this at all.
I am terrified about not seeing them, as I've been the one who gets them up, to school, does the pick up, majority of after school everything, bed times. I know they need to see their dad but I feel like he's taken control and made all of the decisions so far, including telling me he wants them 50/50. I have a good friend who's been through a divorce with an absolute nobber, so I'm going to ask her to help me.

OP posts:
Elektra1 · 04/12/2025 11:40

Oh dear. This is very hard. I’ve been there. In all honesty, no you can’t save it and in time, you will realise that you deserve more than someone who (even if he did stay) doesn’t want to be with you.

It’s a rough ride but it does get better.

Outside9 · 04/12/2025 11:45

I would also say wanting to leave an unhappy marriage does not make your husband a bad person.

A lot of the responses will villainise him because this is a man-hating forum. But roles reversed, the posters would praise your boldness to make a change for yourself.

In any case, while feelings are no doubt acute atm, in the years to come, you may be thankful that he decided to take this step.

mumuseli · 04/12/2025 11:45

I'm so sorry to hear you've got this going on.
I realise it may well be too late, and things could well be properly over, especially if he has already cheated. On the other hand, from what you said about both misunderstanding each other's communication, it does sound like there might be a little chance of being able to resolve things. You could tell him that IF he hasn't already cheated, and then IF something happens next week with him and his colleague physically, then there will be NO going back for you and him. That way, it's his choice whether he wants to burn his bridges.
If it is indeed over between you and him, then I hope you can make use of the wise support on here. xx

Daygloboo · 04/12/2025 11:47

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 07:06

Husband of 14 years left 3 weeks ago, just told me he'd had enough, was unhappy, wanted to end it. Up and left to go stay with his sister, totally blindsided and devastated. We haven't been happy in our relationship for years, we have 2 young children and I have been in the trenches as it were with them, he has been head down, concentrating on his business. I have done the lion share of the care/parenting/house etc, you know the drill, working part time around their needs, feeling like I'm drowning or on a constant treadmill. We have no support from parents either side. This has caused resentments over the years with very few concessions from him, or admitting he should help more. He has been working extremely hard on his business, has had periods of burnout and dizzy spells and had reluctantly admitted (since he left) that he had been focussing on this and not us. I will admit we have had a dreadful communication style between us, with me pleading for help at times, him being defensive and dismissive, sulking on both sides then very little repair, just a gradually going back to normal after a few weeks, he has ot slightly better over time, helping a bit more, but it wasn't enough and he has said he felt that whatever he did was never good enough. I have been carrying lots of 'scars' from when I have felt let down and unsupported by him, he I think has felt unloved by me. On top of the communication style, I have been going through the menopause with all of the dreadful symptoms, including not wanting to be touched or intimate. He knew this but I admit I had been keeping a lot of how I was feeling to myself, as is my style plus through almost burnout myself, and just getting my head down and getting on with the jobs that needed doing.

My 2 kids are traumatised by him leaving, we have just been getting by. In his leaving speech to me,after some pressure from me, he admitted he has declared feelings for a married colleague and she has told him the same, that she is also leaving an unhappy marriage with her 3 children, he has assured me that nothing physical has happened but I'm not convinced. They are going to be at the same event together next week for 2 days/1 night. He knows I know this, it has been planned for 6 months, a work thing. He keeps saying 'nothing has happened', 'I haven't gone behind your back', but I think, as he's already told me he wants out and has left, that mentally he will think if something happens physically, that that won't be cheating. I'm not sure how I am going to cope with these two days, knowing they will be together. I still love him, I still want to try to work things out. We are in a dreadful place. We talked 2 days ago, the first time properly since he left, both admitting how we had been feeling for years and it turns out he thought I had been treating him like a doormat and I thought the exact same of him, we just hadn't been expressing it to each other or accepting each others feelings. Although I have tried in the past, this would, I felt, fall on deaf ears.

He has said his reason for ending it has got nothing to do with the other woman, and is purely because he is so unhappy in our relationship. That it is just a coincidence that she is also leaving at the same time..

How can I tell him not to take that step next week when they are together, and do anything physical with her? Should I? I know this will appear like I'm begging him but I love him and I cannot bear the thought of him kissing or being with another person. If I don't say anything, I think he will take that as my knowing he is going to do something anyway, that because he's already told me he's leaving, he can do it with a clearer conscience. I want him back, or at the very least, I want him to not take that step with her, so we can work on our relationship, even if it's just so we can not damage it further, but I don't know if me telling him that will push him further away?

What you need to do now is make sure you get your share of everything financially and that he does his share of having the kids because you will need a break . He needs to do his bit and i would do everything in your power to push for that because he sounds like the type who will try to get out of his responsibilities. Forget the emotional stuff. Its over. Get tough and make him man up regarding all the practical divorce stuff. Get a good solicitor.

ranchdressing · 04/12/2025 11:47

The question is why would you want to save it?

Once you're out of the shock you'll realise your life has so much more value than simply being a wife to someone that doesn't love you.

I went through this. I had to rebuild my self-esteem, and now I realise divorce was the best thing that ever happened. Your kids will be fine, and they'll respect you more for standing tall and doing the right thing for you (which is not being with a man who would up and leave his family).