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Husband has left, Emotional Affair with Colleague, Can I save this?

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BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 07:06

Husband of 14 years left 3 weeks ago, just told me he'd had enough, was unhappy, wanted to end it. Up and left to go stay with his sister, totally blindsided and devastated. We haven't been happy in our relationship for years, we have 2 young children and I have been in the trenches as it were with them, he has been head down, concentrating on his business. I have done the lion share of the care/parenting/house etc, you know the drill, working part time around their needs, feeling like I'm drowning or on a constant treadmill. We have no support from parents either side. This has caused resentments over the years with very few concessions from him, or admitting he should help more. He has been working extremely hard on his business, has had periods of burnout and dizzy spells and had reluctantly admitted (since he left) that he had been focussing on this and not us. I will admit we have had a dreadful communication style between us, with me pleading for help at times, him being defensive and dismissive, sulking on both sides then very little repair, just a gradually going back to normal after a few weeks, he has ot slightly better over time, helping a bit more, but it wasn't enough and he has said he felt that whatever he did was never good enough. I have been carrying lots of 'scars' from when I have felt let down and unsupported by him, he I think has felt unloved by me. On top of the communication style, I have been going through the menopause with all of the dreadful symptoms, including not wanting to be touched or intimate. He knew this but I admit I had been keeping a lot of how I was feeling to myself, as is my style plus through almost burnout myself, and just getting my head down and getting on with the jobs that needed doing.

My 2 kids are traumatised by him leaving, we have just been getting by. In his leaving speech to me,after some pressure from me, he admitted he has declared feelings for a married colleague and she has told him the same, that she is also leaving an unhappy marriage with her 3 children, he has assured me that nothing physical has happened but I'm not convinced. They are going to be at the same event together next week for 2 days/1 night. He knows I know this, it has been planned for 6 months, a work thing. He keeps saying 'nothing has happened', 'I haven't gone behind your back', but I think, as he's already told me he wants out and has left, that mentally he will think if something happens physically, that that won't be cheating. I'm not sure how I am going to cope with these two days, knowing they will be together. I still love him, I still want to try to work things out. We are in a dreadful place. We talked 2 days ago, the first time properly since he left, both admitting how we had been feeling for years and it turns out he thought I had been treating him like a doormat and I thought the exact same of him, we just hadn't been expressing it to each other or accepting each others feelings. Although I have tried in the past, this would, I felt, fall on deaf ears.

He has said his reason for ending it has got nothing to do with the other woman, and is purely because he is so unhappy in our relationship. That it is just a coincidence that she is also leaving at the same time..

How can I tell him not to take that step next week when they are together, and do anything physical with her? Should I? I know this will appear like I'm begging him but I love him and I cannot bear the thought of him kissing or being with another person. If I don't say anything, I think he will take that as my knowing he is going to do something anyway, that because he's already told me he's leaving, he can do it with a clearer conscience. I want him back, or at the very least, I want him to not take that step with her, so we can work on our relationship, even if it's just so we can not damage it further, but I don't know if me telling him that will push him further away?

OP posts:
SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 04/12/2025 10:24

Ah OP!

I thought you were going to say the kids were 1 and 3 and he was running off woth a 23 yo

The kids 8 and 10 and she has 3 teenagers!

It might not feel it now but...You are going to be FINE!!! His life is going to be one big headache.

2 people have to want it - dont put any energy into 'saving the marriage' put all your effort into getting a good lawyer and securing the best financial and custodial terms for you and the children.

It will get better - work on moving forward not backwards.
On a practical note, christmas will be a bit grim - just accept it, brace yourself and get through it.

researchers3 · 04/12/2025 10:25

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 08:22

Thank you everyone for the comments so far. It is extremely painful for me to read what I know are honest responses.
He does deserve to be happy, we both do. I thought/hoped things would improve. I take responsibility for not improving it in the past, I have tried to broach this in my own way, but don't feel like it was accepted by him, he does have a quite dismissive attitude towards house work/parenting (he absolutely disputes this, has been adamant for years that he thought he contributed 50/50, still does maintain this, when it has been more like 90-10% at times).

I suppose I am trying to start again or try to re-start our relationship, because I think (I know this is a stage of grief) it can be better and also because of the damage it is causing to the children. I know I am being desperate but I feel desperate. I have booked a counselling appointment.
Finances- I am on it, looking into those, he saying everything is declared/he has been upfront about it all.

I have said he must think I am stupid to believe 'nothing has happened' between them, I have pressed and pressed on this and asked him to tell the truth. I have said all of the things to him mentioned above, such as no-one leaves a marriage on the strength of one telephone conversation, but he is insistent 'nothing has happened and that he is leaving becuase of us, it's just a coincidence that she is also leaving her husband at the same time... yeah right.

Part of me wants to speak to her or her husband, so she knows the devastation this is causing. I know how to contact her, I also want to tell her husband what has been going on for a what I think is a very long time. Should I do that? Even just to get it off my chest? I worry if I do that it will drive them closer together.
I am aware of how pathetic I sound, I need all the advice/help i can get.

What would you want to get out of telling her husband is what you need to ask yourself first.

He may already know and will likely suspect if not.

Your husband is absolutely fixed on the narrative he's told you. Mine did the same to me and gaslit me and made me very unwell. He's lying to you. I understand the need you have to hear it from him - he is not going to give you that. I guess st least he has told you about her, albeit watered down.

I'm sorry youre going through this. It's indescribably painful to know they're going to be with someone else even if it wasn't the best marriage, he's still your husband. Youre allowed to grieve and feel.

Take care.

Luckyingame · 04/12/2025 10:27

Tartanboots · 04/12/2025 09:36

Yep, he clearly deserves to be punished even more for having the gall to leave a loveless sexless marriage, and losing his home in the process.

Seems quite fitting.
What about the OP, what does she deserve?

harriethoyle · 04/12/2025 10:31

CharlotteLightandDark · 04/12/2025 07:09

The marriage sounds well and truly dead to me.
you’re just panicking because of the sudden change/loss which is normal but after a while you’ll see that it’s probably for the best that it ends because it sounds like you’ve both been miserable for years.

Edited

Yes I agree with this. He ripped the band aid off but this has been coming for years

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 10:31

TicTac80 · 04/12/2025 09:08

It sounds like things have been limping on for a long time, and that he isn't interested in working on things with you (I'm sorry), but - based on fact you said that neither of you communicate well - maybe talk to him before this work trip and (if you're really wanting to not give up yet) just lay out clearly that you would like to properly work on things, and see what he says to that. I would be amazed if he's done nothing physical with this lady already, so be prepared for that: why two people would be prepared to risk completely chucking an H Bomb on their marriages, with multiple kids involved, after only "declaring feelings for each other" is beyond me.

I think though that things have run their course and you need to prepare yourself for that. For the time being, I'd get all your "ducks in row": gather info and get legal advice. List who does what re: around house and with kids etc. Also look at if there is any UC/benefits etc you're entitled to, cost of bills/rent/mortgage, plus council tax discount etc. If you guys do divorce, then at least you're prepared and have that info to hand. If he comes back, and works on marriage and everything turns out rosy, then at least you have the information and know what is what.

FWIW, XH and I separated in the January - this was after years of me trying to help him with his issues (addiction), and trying to shield his behaviours from the DC. We said that this would be the chance for him to work on the addictions and for us to work on the marriage, without any stressors (we had young DC at the time). Few weeks later - on Mothering Sunday actually - he told me he wouldn't be coming back. And within a week, I found out he was moving to a flat share (but he wouldn't tell me where or who with). In meantime, his then best mate had found out about OW, tore XH a new arsehole (the BF had been cheated on by his XP) and said that either XH tells me the truth, or he will. XH didn't tell me (only told me that he was moving into a flat share), so the BF did and ended their friendship. Once I knew about OW, I filed for divorce.

Hindsight is an amazing thing: I should have ended the marriage bloody years before all this crap happened, but I kept trying to fix it/hold things together and felt I'd be the failure if I didn't keep trying ("in sickness and in health" kept going through my head...oh and I loved him and wanted him to be the person I had married).

I wouldn't bother contacting the OW (you can if you want, but I'd get the info and file for divorce first): she knows what she's doing, and your "D"H also knows. They won't care, I promise you. Besides, your husband made the vows and promises to you, she didn't (I promise that I'm not excusing her in this). XH's OW was actually one of my friends. She knew we were married (she came to my hen do and the wedding), she knew about my DC, she knew it all, but she didn't give a shit. I told friends/family who he'd fucked off with, but that was that. About 4 months after they moved in together, they split up (it was bloody glorious as both came crying to me and I was able to tell them both exactly what I thought of them and where to go). He then tried to come back, and I told him where to go. I have nothing but contempt for both of them/their behaviours.

What I'd do in your situation? Prepare for being a single parent, get the info you need, stay cool/polite to him, speak to a solicitor, file for divorce. Don't flog a dead horse, don't beg/plead, look after yourself. I'm still single nearly 7yrs on and I wouldn't change that for the world. My DC were a lot more settled within weeks of him leaving, my home and my life are more peaceful .

Thank you so much for you reply. I'm sorry you had to go through all of that, happy for you that you and your DC are much more settled. xxx

OP posts:
GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/12/2025 10:32

CharlotteLightandDark · 04/12/2025 07:09

The marriage sounds well and truly dead to me.
you’re just panicking because of the sudden change/loss which is normal but after a while you’ll see that it’s probably for the best that it ends because it sounds like you’ve both been miserable for years.

Edited

Totally agree with this

Starlight1984 · 04/12/2025 10:32

Luckyingame · 04/12/2025 10:27

Seems quite fitting.
What about the OP, what does she deserve?

Nobody "deserves" to live with someone who doesn't love them and has checked out of the marriage / family.

The OP says herself they've been unhappy for years. Do you think he should stay and they should all continue to live in misery?

Anonanonay · 04/12/2025 10:34

Tartanboots · 04/12/2025 09:36

Yep, he clearly deserves to be punished even more for having the gall to leave a loveless sexless marriage, and losing his home in the process.

Oh give over, you absolute bellend.

Anonanonay · 04/12/2025 10:37

GloriaMonday · 04/12/2025 09:53

@outside,
Disinterested: Refers to someone who is impartial or neutral, often in a decision-making context. For example, a disinterested judge is unbiased and does not have a personal stake in the outcome.

Uninterested: Indicates a lack of interest or concern in a subject or activity. For instance, if someone is uninterested in a movie, they simply do not care to watch it.

I feel your pain. But I think we're fighting a losing battle.

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 10:38

Bestfootforward11 · 04/12/2025 08:25

I’m so sorry, this sounds so hard. But I think you should focus on you and the kids and not him. It sounds to me that the person you feel you are in love with is the man he once was or had the potential to be. But he is not that person (maybe never was?) and certainly has not been that man for years. You are afraid to lose the idea of what could have been but his actions show he is so far past that. He is delusional if he thinks he and this woman are going to walk into the sunset and live happily ever after when five children are involved. You need to focus on building yourself up so you can advocate well for you and your kids during any separation process. I know the thought of that must make you feel sick but that’s the thing to brace yourself for. He’s already made choices and you need to make choices that put you and your kids first as that is clearly not his priority. You are worth more than this. And you will get through it. Best wishes x

Thank you son much, I appreciate your kind words xx

OP posts:
BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 10:40

Silverbirchleaf · 04/12/2025 08:51

“He has said his reason for ending it has got nothing to do with the other woman, and is purely because he is so unhappy in our relationship. That it is just a coincidence that she is also leaving at the same time.”

I don’t believe this for a second. Both him and the other woman have got to a level of intimacy where they have declared their feelings for each other. Possibly he is being honourable (in his eyes), and leaving before anything physical has happened, but many people don’t realise the concept of an emotional affair, and term this as platonic as it’s not physical.

Could he be wanting 50:50 custody to save money?

wishing you all the best fir the future.

Yes, my hunch is that he is saying he wants 50/50 so that he doesn't have to pay maintenance.

OP posts:
Floundering66 · 04/12/2025 10:43

Sorry OP I also think this is dead in the water. He sounds like he’s reached his breaking point and I doubt he’s going to pass up the chance of a fresh, exciting new relationship to try and mend a relationship where both parties have been unhappy for years. Its very sad but I think this is out of your hands now.

localbutterfly · 04/12/2025 10:44

You COULD try telling him once, face to face if possible, that you are open to trying to reconcile but it will only be possible if he puts his other sexual/romantic relationship(s) on hold and does not proceed with them while the two of you test out couples counseling. I wouldn't, though. This man makes you unhappy, has you (unsuccessfully) begging him for "help" just to get him to handle his OWN share of parenting/household responsibilities, thinks that your time and hard work are less valuable than his, and is already at the very least considering another relationship and doesn't care that this hurts you. And you no longer trust him. I'd get your plans together in preparation for a breakup and at least take comfort in the fact that he'll finally have to do his own housework and his fair share of parenting (and, I suspect, he either has no idea how much work this will be or on some level expects to be able to plan it off on this new woman). It hurts, of course, but after a clean break and getting used to the new situation, it WILL become less painful over time.

Tartanboots · 04/12/2025 10:44

Luckyingame · 04/12/2025 10:27

Seems quite fitting.
What about the OP, what does she deserve?

She definitely doesn't deserve lawyers rubbing their hands with glee as she pursues a futile "woman scorned" asset stripping mission instead of a fair division of assets. She deserves a happy future, they both do. There was no chance of that in the marriage.

lickingfingertastingfood · 04/12/2025 10:45

I've been here and you are still in panic mode hence telling yourself that you want to make your marriage work and that you still love him. You cannot imagine your future and it certainly never involved this. He has eyes on a new life and you are playing catch up here.

It is horrible. You will get through it though. Don't get panicked by people talking about ducks and shit hot lawyers but TODAY contact any banks where you have a joint account and ask them to freeze them. Get them to open one for you if you don't already have a solo one. If necessary withdraw an amount of cash before this is done to see you through until you have new cards etc. You can then both agree to take equal sums out of bank accounts at a time. Then in time equip yourself with divorce knowledge. Buy a book on Amazon that lays out simply the process of divorce. Find out the status of your mortgage - what equity is in there. Ask him to contact his employers for a CETV on his pension and the same for yourself. This can take several months depending on the provider. Look at the Gov pension site online and get your current status as regards your State pension. These things are hard to focus on when your head is reeling so no immediate rush. I'm not going to lie - it's a hard road but you will get there.
I am now happily remarried and living such a lovely life. I suggest you buy this book from Amazon today . It's called Runaway Husbands by Vikki Stark.
Remember he's not your friend. He's trying to extract himself from this situation to pursue his new life.

MincePudding · 04/12/2025 10:46

Reread your post and ask why you would even want him. I laughed at the idea that the silly sod has checked out of family life with a supportive wife and 2 kids, which he is failing extraordinarily at because family life doesn't seem to suit him, and he's off to set up shop with another woman with three kids and she has no idea how useless he is.

OP. After every relationship ends, we go through stages of grief and fear of change. Recognise that your feelings are normal, but that you need to follow your head so you can give your kids the stability they deserve.

Dad's left. That's the new normal. Him coming back and you continuing to burn out, even harder because you'll be scared he will leave, is not best for your family.

Your OP makes it very clear that neither of you are happy. His solution is a distraction (that is bound to fail- as I said, he can't cope with 2 of his own kids, never mind 3 of someone elses) but you have a real chance to heal and make a better life once you decide that he's gone and you're going to make a happy life.

You don't need a man.

InlandTaipan · 04/12/2025 10:49

Starlight7080 · 04/12/2025 07:46

Something more would have happened between them both. You dont leave a marriage just for someone you have talked too. The other woman will have made sure he was worth it or her feeling for him are real.
They wont have just chatted .
He is being a coward not telling you the truth.

The marriage was clearly, clearly long dead. I would think that any hint of something better would be enough to make either one of them leave.

OP , just be glad one of you had the sense to call time on something was working for neither of you. And get a shit hot divorce lawyer.

GloriaMonday · 04/12/2025 10:49

@BarnabyRocks , you probably feel like you've been punched very hard in the stomach. He doesn't really want them 50:50. You know that.
He's 'thinking with his dick'.

Be there for you and for your DC.

The pain and grief will diminish eventually. Take each day 5 minutes at a time.
Rally support from family and friends. Rant on here if you need to. {{HUG}}

@Anonanonay , Thanks.

AnneButNotHathaway · 04/12/2025 10:49

Sending hugs, OP! Though it also sounds like you'll be happier without this relationship anyway, so after the first shoch is gone you'll notice how much brighter the life has become.

MincePudding · 04/12/2025 10:49

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 10:40

Yes, my hunch is that he is saying he wants 50/50 so that he doesn't have to pay maintenance.

Mate, tell him to have primary custody because 5050 is too dosruptive to the kids and that he can have it.

Let him tell his new girlfriend they need a massive house for five kids and she needs to look after them all most of the time because he's working all hours. See how that goes.

He will backtrack without a doubt. He can't cope with 2 kids he rarely sees, never mind 5 cramping his love nest.

Lolo2000 · 04/12/2025 10:51

I'm sorry, I really am. This has happened to 2 of my friends, the devastation it causes is immense, both were left for the OW - leaving children in tatters and my friends left to pick up the pieces.

I'll give you the same advice as others and as I gave friends
Don't beg, accept the situation and focus on yourself. Rally friends and family for support (if possible) get a plan together, get finances sorted asap.

It does sound like the relationship was over way before the other woman, it just wasn't communicated.

You can do this, you have got this - trust me!
3 years later both my friends are happy and there children are thriving, they went through the worse and came out stronger!
I promise you, you'll be fine

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 04/12/2025 10:54

BarnabyRocks · 04/12/2025 10:40

Yes, my hunch is that he is saying he wants 50/50 so that he doesn't have to pay maintenance.

That sound highly likely, I'm afraid.

I'm so sorry @BarnabyRocks he's being horrible to you.

I do not think he'll really stick with 50:50 when it comes down to it. Has he even suggested how this would work? I'd get in there first with my proposals.

You need legal advice pronto. Prioritise this. Don't make any financial decisions without good advice.

Your husband is no longer your friend and he won't think twice about screwing you over. He'll be planning his new life with the OW.

EstherGreenwood63 · 04/12/2025 10:56

Sorry you're having such a shitty time OP. My input is the same two words I often proffer. Forensic accountant. Oh and to ignore the VERY obvious menz goaders here to goad. Really good luck! 💐

Franklyannoyed · 04/12/2025 10:56

MincePudding · 04/12/2025 10:49

Mate, tell him to have primary custody because 5050 is too dosruptive to the kids and that he can have it.

Let him tell his new girlfriend they need a massive house for five kids and she needs to look after them all most of the time because he's working all hours. See how that goes.

He will backtrack without a doubt. He can't cope with 2 kids he rarely sees, never mind 5 cramping his love nest.

I don’t think they want to enter a game of neither of them want the children, that’s fucking low. She needs to come out of this with her dignity intact, not tell him she doesn’t want her children, and irs a risk as he might take her up on it. Or use it against her. The latter being likely.

op, no don’t talk to the husband or the ow, it will not help you. It won’t change things, the husband will not make them split up so you can have him. It will not work out how you wish. There is no parental figure you can go to here to make it stop and bring him back.

you need to accept it’s over. Both of you need to tell the kids you love them and that won’t change. And keep them out of this as much as possible. Like the husband, they are never to be weaponised as a pp suggested ie tell your husband you don’t want them.

get the financials in order, the house is likely to be sold if owned, if not then deal with the tenancy, focus on the practicals now. Not fantasies of how to stop the, being together, honestly it will not help you.

ThatCyanCat · 04/12/2025 10:57

It'll be the new woman doing all the childcare if he gets 50:50. If five kids don't burst his bubble (he couldn't cope with two, who were his), she bloody well will.

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