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I don't know how to do this anymore? 29m 35f

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johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 15:30

I've been dating a woman for the past 2 months. We've been exclusively seeing eachother for 2 weeks.

I think she's awesome. She's so much fun. She treats me great. The sex is great. She's thoughtful and loyal. She's the perfect partner in a lot of ways.

Except I don't know if this is going to work long term. She is older than me and I want kids. I don't know when I want them but because she's 36 soon that doesn't really give me much time to just see how it develops with her. We'll either have to be fully in thinking about kids in the next 2 years or out. And it's making me feel a lot of pressure.

The pressure isn't coming from her. She's said we can look at options once/if we get that far. and she thinks it's too early to really know if I'm someone she'd have kids with. But also i'm terrified. She can not pressure me as much as she wants, biology isn't something that compromises.

Maybe it's too soon to be worrying about this. But the stress I'm feeling is starting to become a bit unbearable.

She's taking me out for dinner tonight then going on abroad work trips for 2 weeks. I don't know what to do

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johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:05

Beamur · 17/09/2025 16:01

It's smart to be aware that time is limited for optimum fertility but Tbh I think you are overthinking this.
Time is very much on your side.
Less so perhaps your GF but you like her and want children so that's a big positive. But you just don't know yet if this is the right one. You need to just be a bit more in the moment and less focused on the 'what ifs' park these thoughts for 6 months and just enjoy the new relationship.

I guess I'm just really struggling to park these thoughts. I am more afraid of this ending and it feels it'll have to get a lot more serious more quickly

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Tortelliniortortelloni · 17/09/2025 16:06

You are making a mountain out of a molehill.
We'll either have to be fully in thinking about kids in the next 2 years or out. And it's making me feel a lot of pressure.
Two years is making you feel a lot of pressure? You sound like hard work to be honest.

Shellyash · 17/09/2025 16:06

Hi Johnny, it's me, I never knew you would post on here, and guess you never knew I'd be on here.
Cancel the meal tonight, and just for the record I'm transgender and you never noticed. So we wouldn't have had kids anyway.

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:07

80s · 17/09/2025 16:01

If she was 5 years younger, you could still decide that she wasn't the perfect coparent after a while, or vice versa. How does her age change the situation for you?

It doesn't really. I guess this is more fear of what happens if I decide she isn't teh right one. I'll still really care about her but be heartbroken. And I'm terrified of getting attached

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johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:08

Shellyash · 17/09/2025 16:06

Hi Johnny, it's me, I never knew you would post on here, and guess you never knew I'd be on here.
Cancel the meal tonight, and just for the record I'm transgender and you never noticed. So we wouldn't have had kids anyway.

lol

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SkipAd · 17/09/2025 16:08

I’m not sure what the problem is?
Are you worried she’s not the one? If so you need longer to get to know her.
Are you worried she’s the right one but too old? In which case you should decide now whether that’s a deal breaker and act accordingly.
I am unclear where the stress is coming from?

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:08

Tortelliniortortelloni · 17/09/2025 16:06

You are making a mountain out of a molehill.
We'll either have to be fully in thinking about kids in the next 2 years or out. And it's making me feel a lot of pressure.
Two years is making you feel a lot of pressure? You sound like hard work to be honest.

So what do you propose I do. Because I don't know if I'll be ready for kids or any of that in 2 years?

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TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 17/09/2025 16:09

I’d say give it 6 months. No need to stress right now! However, I do also think that if you really liked her your brain would be begging you not to fuck this up, not suggesting possible outs. So maybe she’s just not the one.

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:09

SkipAd · 17/09/2025 16:08

I’m not sure what the problem is?
Are you worried she’s not the one? If so you need longer to get to know her.
Are you worried she’s the right one but too old? In which case you should decide now whether that’s a deal breaker and act accordingly.
I am unclear where the stress is coming from?

I'm worried she could be the right one but is too old I guess. So maybe I'm heading towards a heartbreak. Because there is nothing wrong with this relationship other than her age

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johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:11

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 17/09/2025 16:09

I’d say give it 6 months. No need to stress right now! However, I do also think that if you really liked her your brain would be begging you not to fuck this up, not suggesting possible outs. So maybe she’s just not the one.

I'm just afraid of how it'll hurt in 6 months if it's not gonna work

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vodkaredbullgirl · 17/09/2025 16:11

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:11

I'm just afraid of how it'll hurt in 6 months if it's not gonna work

Break up now, not later

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:13

Shinysunday · 17/09/2025 16:04

Why did you choose to go out with a 36 year old? If it feels impossible you should apologise and move on asap.

It just kinda happened. I didn't even really think about these issues or expect it to get this far

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johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:13

vodkaredbullgirl · 17/09/2025 16:11

Break up now, not later

I'm not sure yet

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neverstopthelaundry · 17/09/2025 16:15

Dh and I had this conversation really early on. Whether we wanted marriage, children, how many, in an ideal world a rough timeline. Travel, jobs, where we wanted to live. I don't know why people don't think you can have these conversations early on before anyone gets in too deep. Maybe you can have this sort of conversation at dinner tonight. Sort of the where do you see yourself in 5 years sort of thing.

My friend never wanted children, he led with this incredibly early on because he wanted to base a relationship on the honesty of that as a lot of women want children so he felt like this would be harder to find someone who felt the same way.

In an ideal world what do you need in place to have children? Consider that.
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johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:15

whimsicallyprickly · 17/09/2025 16:05

Don't get involved with people if you're scared of emotions

It's her time. She doesn't seem bothered about wasting it.

I think you're realising that you don't want children until you're 40. Be honest. End the relationship

Well tbh I hadn't been. It's been 3 and a half years since my last relationship and I've only really been on max 3 dates since then. I'm terrified of hurting people or dumping them. I get stuck.

I figured maybe mid 30's. But I don't know

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Notabikerchick · 17/09/2025 16:16

I can’t work out whether you’re rather controlling, or just a bit wet.

Be honest with her, its up to your GF to decide how she feels about any potential ‘waste of her time’ fertility wise.

If you cannot cope with the possibility of a break up, maybe you’re too immature for a relationship…

SkipAd · 17/09/2025 16:17

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:09

I'm worried she could be the right one but is too old I guess. So maybe I'm heading towards a heartbreak. Because there is nothing wrong with this relationship other than her age

Then it depends what is more important to you.
Having children but not with her (heartbreak now) if you like her as much as you say.
Having her and potentially no children (heartbreak maybe later)
When put as bluntly as that, how does it make you feel?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/09/2025 16:17

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:09

I'm worried she could be the right one but is too old I guess. So maybe I'm heading towards a heartbreak. Because there is nothing wrong with this relationship other than her age

I'm just imagining her face when you tell her at age 36 (sorry 37 in December), that she's too old for you. And then go on to generously explain that you are telling her now because you are scared of feeling heartbroken if you continue and have to end it.

Your excuses do not seem plausible. If you want to break up with her just say so honestly.

Also, ever given any thought to what happens if it turns out that its you that's not fertile? Age is not the only deciding factor.

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:17

Notabikerchick · 17/09/2025 16:16

I can’t work out whether you’re rather controlling, or just a bit wet.

Be honest with her, its up to your GF to decide how she feels about any potential ‘waste of her time’ fertility wise.

If you cannot cope with the possibility of a break up, maybe you’re too immature for a relationship…

Probably a bit wet lol.

I'm more afraid of wasting my own time. Falling in love with her. Then having to end it coz timelines don't line up

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johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:18

SkipAd · 17/09/2025 16:17

Then it depends what is more important to you.
Having children but not with her (heartbreak now) if you like her as much as you say.
Having her and potentially no children (heartbreak maybe later)
When put as bluntly as that, how does it make you feel?

I can't lose my chance at children. I'm too young to make that kind of sacrifice yet.
Both make me feel very uncomfortable

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BrunetteBarbie94 · 17/09/2025 16:18

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:15

Well tbh I hadn't been. It's been 3 and a half years since my last relationship and I've only really been on max 3 dates since then. I'm terrified of hurting people or dumping them. I get stuck.

I figured maybe mid 30's. But I don't know

You sound like an avoidant. Just end this now and leave her alone. You need therapy not an army of women to justify your commitment issues!

80s · 17/09/2025 16:18

I guess this is more fear of what happens if I decide she isn't teh right one. I'll still really care about her but be heartbroken. And I'm terrified of getting attached
Maybe look into therapy for your attachment issues? Maybe there's something from your childhood making you feel this way - parents not being there when you needed them?

Do you mean that if you wait two years and decide she's not your ideal coparent, then you'll already be so attached that you won't be able to leave her? Is it about that and not her age?

Ilovepastafortea · 17/09/2025 16:19

I know but her being 36 I feel it's more urgent than normal. If she doesn't want or can't have kids. For whatever reason. I'd want to know early so I can get out. It's important to me

You could go about it in a round-about way by asking about her children and asking how many children she saw herself having when she was younger and if, she'd stayed with her ex would she have had more?

However, I wonder why it's so important to you to have children? In what way would having a biological child of your own enhance your life? I can imagine that you might say 'that's fine for you as you have children of your own and no-one asked you those questions'.

DH & me have often discussed how our lives might have been if we couldn't have had children. We certainly would be financially better off! 😂

For about 10 years we fostered troubled teenaged children, we also gave regular respite care to a child with Downs - this person is now an adult, lives in a supported community (his parents are dead now) and still comes to spend the odd weekend and holiday with us. We came to the conclusion that we would have done that at an earlier stage. Though we agreed that having brought up a family we had the skills to manage the teens better than if we hadn't had children of our own.

johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:20

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/09/2025 16:17

I'm just imagining her face when you tell her at age 36 (sorry 37 in December), that she's too old for you. And then go on to generously explain that you are telling her now because you are scared of feeling heartbroken if you continue and have to end it.

Your excuses do not seem plausible. If you want to break up with her just say so honestly.

Also, ever given any thought to what happens if it turns out that its you that's not fertile? Age is not the only deciding factor.

But what's wrong with saying that? that seems perfectly reasonable to break up now because of future heartbreak potential? Like what is actually odd about that? genuine question?

If it's me then that happens. But there's a difference between life forcing that and me choosing a path that eradicates that chance anyway

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johnny2024 · 17/09/2025 16:23

80s · 17/09/2025 16:18

I guess this is more fear of what happens if I decide she isn't teh right one. I'll still really care about her but be heartbroken. And I'm terrified of getting attached
Maybe look into therapy for your attachment issues? Maybe there's something from your childhood making you feel this way - parents not being there when you needed them?

Do you mean that if you wait two years and decide she's not your ideal coparent, then you'll already be so attached that you won't be able to leave her? Is it about that and not her age?

Yes. I think that last paragraph is exactly what it's about.

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