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He just found my copy of 'Why does he do that'

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Needingadvice05 · 02/09/2025 21:28

In my bag... how do I handle it?

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Needingadvice05 · 08/09/2025 19:42

@BuckChucketsthankyou and no I'm not going back after reading that..

@PocketSand that sounds so awful I'm so sorry you went through that... yes the nice then nasty sounds very familiar and the contempt and 'playing the victim'. I'm so glad you found the strength to get out and are in a much better place now. I'm going to look into the women's aid freedom programme thankyou 🙏

@User2025meowthankyou and I agree with everything you're saying . It feels quite bonkers to find that paper but it certainly explains a few things...

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Hotflushesandchilblains · 08/09/2025 19:50

Interesting update on the therapist @Needingadvice05 .

Where you are treating more than one person, like a family, or couple, you do see any bad behaviour as a pattern of relating to each other, rather than inherent in one person which you need to do in order to treat everyone fairly. Not sure it sounds like the therapist is being quite fair to you though. As I said earlier, I have met male counsellors who have no clue how DV works (I am sure there are female ones too, but have not had that experience with them).

How is your partner with you now? You are working very hard to understand him - but I dont hear any understanding from him and more worryingly, that any questioning is shut down. Has he been like this in any other situations? You cannot be in a healthy relationship where you cannot question the other persons behaviour at all, however offended or hurt they may feel by that - if you cant talk things out, you are in a toxic relationship.

DoubtfulCat · 08/09/2025 19:52

Counsellor sounds like an MRA. Can he be reported to Relate? He’s been very unprofessional to say the least in his language; the paper on top of that should put a serious question mark over his suitability to work in this field.

wrongthinker · 08/09/2025 19:55

I would be making a complaint about your counsellor. He is calling you names and taking sides against you... what the actual fuck? Do not go back to him. Maybe discuss it with your individual therapist. It sounds like she has way more of a clue about what's going on in your relationship.

Comtesse · 08/09/2025 19:56

Needingadvice05 · 08/09/2025 12:42

Thankyou @Hotflushesandchilblainshe didn't say anything about me having my own therapy.. yes he has been quite dismissive of certain things ... he insisted my partner 'wasn't yelling at me' which I then questioned
'how can he say that if he wasn't there?' To which he replied .. 'to your DH it isn't yelling, he grew up where that was normal' He did apologise after..

He's called me 'hypersensitive' a couple of times and has also told me that when my partner is angry I need to go towards him to soften him as my partner has abandonment issues...

When DH told the therapist about the book DH was very angry about it and said I have no empathy (I texted my partner the next morning after he stormed out saying i hope he was ok.. was just a stupid book and I really do love him and can we talk' to which he replied 'there is nothing to talk about and things are 'crystal clear'

The therapist told me to understand that DH was upset rather than angry and agreed with my DH that I needed to have empathy...

Sorry about the long message... honestly it's so confusing.. and probably tiring to read! X

No no no. This is bad. The therapist is not helping, may be ganging up on you. I think this should stop now. It is NOT your job to make your husband feel better (soften ffs). And I might have misinterpreted but if the therapist has really said you are hypersensitive then it’s game over.

user12345678901234 · 08/09/2025 21:19

Needingadvice05 · 08/09/2025 17:01

The paper questions some of the feminist views on domestic violence and also explains violent behavior as a relational pattern rather than simply an individual choice.

I’m so sorry if I’ve misunderstood this.
Is this person your Relate therapist?
WTAF?

thepariscrimefiles · 09/09/2025 09:59

Needingadvice05 · 08/09/2025 12:42

Thankyou @Hotflushesandchilblainshe didn't say anything about me having my own therapy.. yes he has been quite dismissive of certain things ... he insisted my partner 'wasn't yelling at me' which I then questioned
'how can he say that if he wasn't there?' To which he replied .. 'to your DH it isn't yelling, he grew up where that was normal' He did apologise after..

He's called me 'hypersensitive' a couple of times and has also told me that when my partner is angry I need to go towards him to soften him as my partner has abandonment issues...

When DH told the therapist about the book DH was very angry about it and said I have no empathy (I texted my partner the next morning after he stormed out saying i hope he was ok.. was just a stupid book and I really do love him and can we talk' to which he replied 'there is nothing to talk about and things are 'crystal clear'

The therapist told me to understand that DH was upset rather than angry and agreed with my DH that I needed to have empathy...

Sorry about the long message... honestly it's so confusing.. and probably tiring to read! X

Honestly, your post took my breath away. Your counsellor is colluding and enabling your abuser. You need to stop meeting with him immediately and report him to his professional body. He is basically gaslighting you and dismissing your own experiences and making your DH the victim. I am flabbergasted at how unprofessional and biased he is.

TaupeRaven · 09/09/2025 10:02

Needingadvice05 · 02/09/2025 21:47

It was in my bag in the bathroom that he doesn't use but I think he just went in there to use the toilet.. I think the bag was partially open but the book was at the bottom of the bag? Idk...

im not actively planning to leave no... and now im even questioning if his behaviour was that bad? But him finding that book is so damaging for our relationship

Maybe you needing (or someone feeling the need to recommend) that book is an indicator that your relationship was already damaged, rather than him finding it being the problem.

I do wonder how he came to find a book that was at the bottom of your bag.

bumblebramble · 09/09/2025 10:11

@Needingadvice05 may I ask how you came to choose that counsellor? Was it a random selection, or did your dh steer you towards him?

bumblebramble · 09/09/2025 10:23

I’m linking to a pdf of the Lundy book as it may be easier for you to read it on your phone.

https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf

Needingadvice05 · 09/09/2025 13:50

Thankyou @bumblebramble🙏 this therapist was actually recommended to us by our last couples therapist who said she couldn't help us anymore and said he was really good..:/

@Hotflushesandchilblains yes that makes sense re group therapy .. yes it seems some therapists
don't understand fully understand/ are not aware??? - Honestly, I feel like training in DV should be essential for all couples counsellors. Our current therapist has 25 years of experience and, judging by his published paper, has worked extensively with DV. In it, he outlines his theories and says he believes they can help couples not only improve their relationship but also stop the abuse.

Since our last session, DH has actually been in really good form. He had what I can only describe as a purge, which seemed cathartic for him — and I haven’t seen any of the difficult behaviour since.

I’m also seeing my own therapist tomorrow to put together an exit plan, so I’ll have that in place.

Thank you all so much for taking the time to read and reply — I know my posts are a bit long-winded 😅 but your support really means a lot.

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