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Mine and bf's differing views on progression

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 10:41

Hi everyone, I could do with some gentle words of advice. I am feeling very fragile and can't speak to my friends about this - they are all settled down and I am embarrassed that I continue to have relationship problems; it's the story of my adult life.

I'm 35 and started dating my bf who is 40 8 months ago, we had the exclusivity talk 5 months ago although I don't think either of us had been seeing anyone else. We spend weekends and one weeknight together and have been on holiday together for 4 days.

He has a difficult home situation - his mum became disabled following an accident nearly two years ago. She has no use of her left leg/foot or left hand and has speech difficulties. When this happened, he rented out his house so he could move in with her to support her. This was meant to be a short term thing but has continued - he does not want it to be like this indefinitely and she is better than she was but he feels a lot of responsibility towards her - she is vulnerable and needs his help. I respect him a lot for this but it does take its toll on him. He has a sister who is entirely unsupportive and his parents are divorced so it all falls to him.

He has also never really had a serious relationship. He was with someone for 2 years in his twenties but then went travelling and since then had had short burst of 'seeing people' - 3-6 months but nothing longer than that. He says he does want to settle down but he is also ambivalent towards it and sees it as a big thing. He is very cautious in all areas of life.

I haven't met his friends - they are mostly single and don't appear to take an interest in his love life although they know about me. He is coming to a friend's party with me next month and is happy to socialise with my friends.

This weekend I asked if we might meet each other's families soon and he said 'all in good time' - I asked what he meant as I feel 8 months is reasonable to meet family and he said he has never introduced a girl to his mum and that he would do it once we'd been together for a year but probably not before because he knows she wants him to settle down and wouldn't want to get her hopes up if it didn't work out - he said he didn't think it wouldn't work out between us but that a relationship of a year feels more established. I didn't really understand this and he said he feels it would be a big step - this isn't the case for my family, I have introduced bfs to them pretty early. He said he'd be happy to meet them. I said he must know it's normal to introduce your girlfriend/boyfriend to your parents and gave the example of his sister and her husband and he said she actually waited ages to introduce him to his mum and that he doesn't really know him - they don't seem to integrate too much. Is this just a different family dynamics thing?

I also touched on his fears of commitment. He said he is not afraid per se but it is a big thing for him - he worries about letting the other person down and does see it as quite 'final'. I said I was worried that we are not on the same page in terms of what we want out of life (I want a family and am 35 - I have expressed this to him) and he said that we are and that he does want to settle down and is coming around to the idea of it with me but that whilst 90% of my brain can be focused on the relationship and progression a lot of his brain is consumed with his mum.

I feel very torn. On one hand we are making progress and I can see that he is trying - we are spending more time together, he is being more verbally expressive, he shares what's going on for him emotionally re his mum, he brought flowers over at the weekend (the first time he has done this), we are having more sex (his sex drive has been low at times because of his preoccupation with his mum but since I mentioned I have a higher sex drive he has made a big effort). He is not future faking at least! When I am with him I have such a nice time - he makes me laugh, we have interesting conversations etc. But I worry it will go nowhere due to his mum's situation, his inexperience and his fears of commitment.

Equally, anyone who has been OLD around my age over the last couple of years will know how hopeless it is. I could end this and get with someone else who is even more of a commitment-phobe - many of the guys on the apps appear to be, at least in my experience and from anecdotes I have heard from others. Of course bf's mum will always have to be a priority and I accept that. Other guys this age could have kids who would be a priority so the grass isn't necessarily greener. I feel terrified I am wasting my time but I also don't want to end something that could have potential if I am patient (patience is not my strong point).

I imagine many of you will tell me to leave. It is easy to say when it's not your life though. At least if I stay with him I have a tiny bit of hope of it moving forward and becoming something. If I leave there are no guarantees I will find anyone who wants to commit - in all my years of dating and relationships I never have and I don't understand why as I consider myself a nice person and good girlfriend. I am deep into the panic years - if I was in my 20s I could enjoy the relationship for what it is but the pressure of the biological clock is basically ruining everything.

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Topjoe19 · 18/08/2025 11:01

I think you know deep down this is not good.

You're better off being single & able to meet someone than stuck in a dead end relationship where you will end up resenting him.

Mrsttcno1 · 18/08/2025 11:03

Honestly I’d throw this one back and keep looking OP, if having a child is the most important thing to you. Is it? If not and you could take or leave kids then you can just see how things go.

This person is showing you very clearly where his priorities lie- believe him. To be brutally honest at 35 you really don’t have time to waste with someone who at 40 years old still doesn’t actively want to move out, settle & start a family. If it’s not a resounding YES then it’s a no, you truly do not have time to waste to realise that if a baby is important to you.

Mrsttcno1 · 18/08/2025 11:07

It really depends what ultimately is most important and what is “enough” for you.

You say at least staying with him you have a “tiny bit of hope” it will become something- is a tiny bit of hope really enough for you, even if that’s all it ever is and you never get anything more? If so, yeah stick it out with him.

But I’d bet the house just from what you’ve written here that this man

  1. Will never move back out of his mum’s
  2. Will delay feeling “ready” to introduce you to family because then it feels real
  3. Will never want children, he has his plate full with his mum already

He has chosen to dedicate his adult life to his mum, that’s admirable in lots of ways, but he’s never going to have the capacity to be a husband, dad, independent until she is no longer here. Is that enough for you? Foregoing a family of your own to be his girlfriend for 20 years until its too late?

Cadenza12 · 18/08/2025 11:08

He's 40, lives with his mum and has a problem with commitment. Sounds like you both want different things long term.

Invigilator55 · 18/08/2025 11:10

No advice, really, just want to empathise. I was single in my mid-30s (well, I still am!) and it's a very hard place to be when you want to settle down and have children. It's so hard to know what to do - whether to leave and hope you meet someone, or stay and hope things progress.

I think people who haven't experienced long periods of being single or who haven't been on OLD think it's easy to find a new partner - but I know how difficult it is.

I'm assuming you know for sure that the situation with his mum is definitely true and not an excuse for not progressing things with you?

I wish I could help more but just want to say that you sound lovely and I really hope that things work out for you, whether it's with this man or you meet someone else.

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 11:15

To be clear he is not living with his mum out of choice or because he can't live independently - he lived on his own for 14 years before this.. He ackowledges it would be hard to leave her because he'd worry about her being lonely/falling over/not being able to do something for herslef and he would want to be able to pop in regularly but doesn't see himself staying there forever. Other people with caring responsibilities are able to have a family?

Is it really a dead end relationship? I have seen some progress. It would be cruel for him to continue with me if he knew he couldn't give me what I want? And I have been clear from the beginning. He does make an effort to fit me in around all the other stuff he's got going on so I do feel I am a priority. And he is nice to me which I know is basic but this hasn't always been in the case for me in previous relationships.

@Invigilator55 thank you for understanding - it is so easy for other people to say 'leave and find someone else' but there is no one else! I am sorry you are also finding yourself in this position. I know his mum's situation is true - he has shown me photos of her, sometimes her wheelchair has been in his car etc

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QPZM · 18/08/2025 11:19

You won't get marriage and kids out of this one.

  1. Never had a long-term relationship.
  2. Lives with his mum but won't introduce you to her.
  3. Won't introduce you to the rest of his family.
  4. Won't introduce you to his friends.
  5. Fear of commitment.
  6. Doesn't really want kids.

You keep saying you don't want to throw him back because 'there's no guarantee you'll meet someone who wants similar things', but if you stay with him you can guarantee you won't ever meet that person.

This is not the man for you and to be honest, all his cloak and dagger stuff sounds a bit creepy.

You know nothing about him other than what he's told you and he's refusing to allow you to meet anyone who might tell you different.

Betheadore · 18/08/2025 11:22

If you stay with him, you need to admit to yourself what you're settling for and just accept it for what it is.

To be fair to the man, it's quite clear.

QPZM · 18/08/2025 11:22

Who looks after his mum when he's at work?

DelilahMy · 18/08/2025 11:25

It sounds as though you fundamentally have a good relationship with him. I very much view his care and commitment to his mum as a positive. Also, he is being honest with you.

My advise would be to give it a bit more time however if the 1 year anniversary passes and no introduction to his mum happens, I would have a rethink then.

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 11:27

@QPZM understand what you are saying but in my naive/hopeful brain:

1.He says this is not out of choice but because he hadn't met the right person

2.We view these things differently - he sees this is a big step and his sister's situation illustrates the family dynamics

3.He doesn't really get on with his sister, esp as she doesn't support him with the mum

4.This is normal for their friendship group - they are all a bit chaotic. Only one is settled down.

5.He said he is coming round to the idea of a future with me - maybe he needs more time?

6.Says he does want kids although obvs this is a big step and one he probably also feels ambivalent about.

Do you think he is lying to me? What about?

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Topjoe19 · 18/08/2025 11:28

Mrsttcno1 · 18/08/2025 11:07

It really depends what ultimately is most important and what is “enough” for you.

You say at least staying with him you have a “tiny bit of hope” it will become something- is a tiny bit of hope really enough for you, even if that’s all it ever is and you never get anything more? If so, yeah stick it out with him.

But I’d bet the house just from what you’ve written here that this man

  1. Will never move back out of his mum’s
  2. Will delay feeling “ready” to introduce you to family because then it feels real
  3. Will never want children, he has his plate full with his mum already

He has chosen to dedicate his adult life to his mum, that’s admirable in lots of ways, but he’s never going to have the capacity to be a husband, dad, independent until she is no longer here. Is that enough for you? Foregoing a family of your own to be his girlfriend for 20 years until its too late?

This.

Do you not find it strange that he won't introduce you to his mum at this point, when you have asked? He may very well want a family & to be settled down but what is he doing to progress things really? He won't even introduce you to his family.

I get it. I was single for aaages then OLD so I do understand. I met my now DH OLD so it can happen!

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 11:28

@QPZM She has carers who get her up. I think they come in at lunchtime too but there is no one to do the shopping, cleaning, open jars at random times, call social services, take her to hospital appointments, take her to practice riding her mobility scooter etc

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Mrsttcno1 · 18/08/2025 11:29

Of course he’s living with his mum out of choice, he doesn’t have to live there, you’ve just said yourself he’s staying because he’s worried about here so he is choosing to stay.

You say he “doesn’t see himself staying there forever”, but you don’t have “forever” to wait if you want children, and presumably you’d actually like to live with the father of your child, yes? He’s made no moves to move out, and he hasn’t even introduced you to his family because he isn’t convinced it will last. If he’s making you wait a year just to meet his mum, how many years do you think you’ll be waiting for him to move out, move in together, propose, be ready to try for a baby? 5 years? More? Never? If you want a baby then you don’t have that kind of time to waste. If a baby isn’t crucially important to you though and he makes you happy then yes wait it out if you want to.

You say “it would be cruel of him to stay with me if he can’t give me what I want” but that’s a selfish mindset from you, you want this relationship to give you what YOU want, that’s totally understandable and how most people think. But flip that now because he will also be thinking of it selfishly, he has a woman he gets on very well with, has sex with, dates, gets all the benefits of a girlfriend but without any of the commitment- why wouldn’t he stay with you? He’s happy with things exactly as they are. His mum doesn’t even know you exist yet- he is years away from approaching babies, if he ever will.

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 11:30

@Betheadore what is clear to him? He can be under no illusions about what I want and at the weekend he told me he thinks we want the same things

@DelilahMy thank you; this is what I thought about the mum thing when i first met him although I hadn't appreciated what a barrier to commitment it might be, esp as she wants him to settle down

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Methefurious · 18/08/2025 11:32

Honestly? He doesn't sound interested beyond something casual. If thats also what you want, then all good. Even if his family's attitude to introducing partners is to wait, it is strange you've never met any of his friends- are you sure he isnt married or doesnt have another family? Hes keeping you at arms length from his life and the people in it, when 8 months at this age isn't overly early days. If he isnt hiding something he also isnt going to wake up one day and change his mind; men generally know when theyre ready to settle down.

QPZM · 18/08/2025 11:32

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 11:27

@QPZM understand what you are saying but in my naive/hopeful brain:

1.He says this is not out of choice but because he hadn't met the right person

2.We view these things differently - he sees this is a big step and his sister's situation illustrates the family dynamics

3.He doesn't really get on with his sister, esp as she doesn't support him with the mum

4.This is normal for their friendship group - they are all a bit chaotic. Only one is settled down.

5.He said he is coming round to the idea of a future with me - maybe he needs more time?

6.Says he does want kids although obvs this is a big step and one he probably also feels ambivalent about.

Do you think he is lying to me? What about?

I don't know if he's lying or not but that's the problem because nor do you.

What I see as a red flag, is the fact he's blocked every single avenue available for you to meet people who may tell you differently to what he has.

That's not healthy.

And "I don't want to introduce you to my mum in case we don't work out and she gets her hopes up", is an absolutely ridiculous excuse, surely you can see that?

She's a grown woman, not a 4 year old child. I'm sure she can handle it.

Mrsttcno1 · 18/08/2025 11:32

Also- please please raise your bar. Someone fitting you in “around all the other stuff they have on” and “being nice” are literally the absolute bare minimum you should expect from anyone, it certainly doesn’t make someone an ideal candidate for a life partner those things are just being a half decent human.

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 11:32

@Mrsttcno1 his mum does know I exist - he has shown her photos from our holiday, the bday card I got him. I wonder if he equates meeting her as commitment and whether the rest would follow more quickly. Surely he wouldn't stay with me if he saw that we both want different things? I still think it would be selfish of him to stay if he didn't want what I do

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Mrsttcno1 · 18/08/2025 11:36

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 11:32

@Mrsttcno1 his mum does know I exist - he has shown her photos from our holiday, the bday card I got him. I wonder if he equates meeting her as commitment and whether the rest would follow more quickly. Surely he wouldn't stay with me if he saw that we both want different things? I still think it would be selfish of him to stay if he didn't want what I do

And you know that for a fact? You’ve never met this woman, you have no idea what she does or doesn’t know. If she knew you existed then you could pop in to say hello.

Why wouldn’t he stay with you when you’re so convenient for him? Humans are selfish, you’re selfish too- you want a family and want him to give it to you. We’re all really quite selfish ultimately. He’s getting what he wants from you, and there is no guarantee you’ll ever get what you want from him- are you okay with that?

You might be, but I’d be pretty certain if you stay with this man you’ll never live together, you’ll never have a child, he will never commit to you perhaps until his mum is no longer here. That might be enough for you, it is for some people, but it wouldn’t be for me personally.

When people show you who they are and what they actually want, believe them. If he wanted a family with you, you’d at least of met his.

Topjoe19 · 18/08/2025 11:36

What's wrong with meeting her then? Why didn't he just say, yeah sure shall we go this weekend? It's just really odd.

He probably does want those things. But what is he doing about it? A start would be meeting his family & him moving out to give him & his mum some independence.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/08/2025 11:37

He’s likely told her nothing of the sort sadly and perhaps sees you as a friend to him.

You are wasting your time on him. This is going nowhere because his priority is his mother and not you. He’s probably wanting her property going forward.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?. I would consider seeking therapy to unlearn the crap you’ve picked up about those along the way. Relationships should not be such hard work.

QPZM · 18/08/2025 11:38

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 11:32

@Mrsttcno1 his mum does know I exist - he has shown her photos from our holiday, the bday card I got him. I wonder if he equates meeting her as commitment and whether the rest would follow more quickly. Surely he wouldn't stay with me if he saw that we both want different things? I still think it would be selfish of him to stay if he didn't want what I do

Yes it would be selfish but as you know, there are a lot of selfish people about.

Basically you're giving him sex and some company when he wants it and he doesn't have to change anything about his life to fit in with you.

Why would he risk losing that by being completely honest about not wanting to commit and have children with you?

And how long are you going to continue with him having never met anyone who knows him well?

Literally everything you know about this man, his life and his past has come from him and him only.

Mrsttcno1 · 18/08/2025 11:39

The pessimist in me would also say that even if he does know you want different things, you’re already 35, he’s already 40, he really doesn’t have to run the clock down for very long before biology will put a stop to the baby talk for him and then he never has to say no.

Eversince · 18/08/2025 11:47

Do you spend the whole weekend together? How does he manage with his mum then?

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