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Mine and bf's differing views on progression

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 10:41

Hi everyone, I could do with some gentle words of advice. I am feeling very fragile and can't speak to my friends about this - they are all settled down and I am embarrassed that I continue to have relationship problems; it's the story of my adult life.

I'm 35 and started dating my bf who is 40 8 months ago, we had the exclusivity talk 5 months ago although I don't think either of us had been seeing anyone else. We spend weekends and one weeknight together and have been on holiday together for 4 days.

He has a difficult home situation - his mum became disabled following an accident nearly two years ago. She has no use of her left leg/foot or left hand and has speech difficulties. When this happened, he rented out his house so he could move in with her to support her. This was meant to be a short term thing but has continued - he does not want it to be like this indefinitely and she is better than she was but he feels a lot of responsibility towards her - she is vulnerable and needs his help. I respect him a lot for this but it does take its toll on him. He has a sister who is entirely unsupportive and his parents are divorced so it all falls to him.

He has also never really had a serious relationship. He was with someone for 2 years in his twenties but then went travelling and since then had had short burst of 'seeing people' - 3-6 months but nothing longer than that. He says he does want to settle down but he is also ambivalent towards it and sees it as a big thing. He is very cautious in all areas of life.

I haven't met his friends - they are mostly single and don't appear to take an interest in his love life although they know about me. He is coming to a friend's party with me next month and is happy to socialise with my friends.

This weekend I asked if we might meet each other's families soon and he said 'all in good time' - I asked what he meant as I feel 8 months is reasonable to meet family and he said he has never introduced a girl to his mum and that he would do it once we'd been together for a year but probably not before because he knows she wants him to settle down and wouldn't want to get her hopes up if it didn't work out - he said he didn't think it wouldn't work out between us but that a relationship of a year feels more established. I didn't really understand this and he said he feels it would be a big step - this isn't the case for my family, I have introduced bfs to them pretty early. He said he'd be happy to meet them. I said he must know it's normal to introduce your girlfriend/boyfriend to your parents and gave the example of his sister and her husband and he said she actually waited ages to introduce him to his mum and that he doesn't really know him - they don't seem to integrate too much. Is this just a different family dynamics thing?

I also touched on his fears of commitment. He said he is not afraid per se but it is a big thing for him - he worries about letting the other person down and does see it as quite 'final'. I said I was worried that we are not on the same page in terms of what we want out of life (I want a family and am 35 - I have expressed this to him) and he said that we are and that he does want to settle down and is coming around to the idea of it with me but that whilst 90% of my brain can be focused on the relationship and progression a lot of his brain is consumed with his mum.

I feel very torn. On one hand we are making progress and I can see that he is trying - we are spending more time together, he is being more verbally expressive, he shares what's going on for him emotionally re his mum, he brought flowers over at the weekend (the first time he has done this), we are having more sex (his sex drive has been low at times because of his preoccupation with his mum but since I mentioned I have a higher sex drive he has made a big effort). He is not future faking at least! When I am with him I have such a nice time - he makes me laugh, we have interesting conversations etc. But I worry it will go nowhere due to his mum's situation, his inexperience and his fears of commitment.

Equally, anyone who has been OLD around my age over the last couple of years will know how hopeless it is. I could end this and get with someone else who is even more of a commitment-phobe - many of the guys on the apps appear to be, at least in my experience and from anecdotes I have heard from others. Of course bf's mum will always have to be a priority and I accept that. Other guys this age could have kids who would be a priority so the grass isn't necessarily greener. I feel terrified I am wasting my time but I also don't want to end something that could have potential if I am patient (patience is not my strong point).

I imagine many of you will tell me to leave. It is easy to say when it's not your life though. At least if I stay with him I have a tiny bit of hope of it moving forward and becoming something. If I leave there are no guarantees I will find anyone who wants to commit - in all my years of dating and relationships I never have and I don't understand why as I consider myself a nice person and good girlfriend. I am deep into the panic years - if I was in my 20s I could enjoy the relationship for what it is but the pressure of the biological clock is basically ruining everything.

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:23

@BrassOliveI was thinking this last night. However, yesterday was a day of intense conversation and I think I might need to leave it for a while. Do you have any advice for when I should bring it up again?

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:23

@BrassOliveI was thinking this last night. However, yesterday was a day of intense conversation and I think I might need to leave it for a while. Do you have any advice for when I should bring it up again?

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:23

@BrassOliveI was thinking this last night. However, yesterday was a day of intense conversation and I think I might need to leave it for a while. Do you have any advice for when I should bring it up again?

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occhiazzurri · 18/08/2025 12:25

I can completely understand how hard it is for you and fully empathise someone who is still single in my 40s. I genuinely say this with a heavy heart that you won’t get marriage/kids as you hope for with time. I know there seems to be very little alternative but that’s the likely reality. My friends who met their husbands - through a lot of compromise etc- on OLD moved in together/got engaged within the year and married within 18-24 months, both mid 30s. Not having met family and friends within 8 months is a red flag for any relationship unless there are kids/divorce proceedings. I am not saying you should leave but I think you need to give specific deadlines for certain things to happen or otherwise you will regret it later.

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:28

@mondaytosundayi know about his feelings - he says he cares about me and wouldn’t want his life without me in it. We do call each other bf and gf and have said I don’t want to be strung along. I did mention his good qualities - he makes me laugh, we have good conversations. I would feel sad to not have him in my life. How did you meet your DH? Im not sure id want to be engaged within 6 weeks but certainly I’d like progression in my current relationship to be faster at this stage. He did warn me at the beginning that he takes things slowly but they’re not standing still…

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:29

@occhiazzurriwhen do you think I should have this conversation? If it was the other way around and he was rushing me before I felt ready would it be seen differently? Maybe not because of the biological clock

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Ukholidaysaregreat · 18/08/2025 12:29

It might be worth joining some clubs/hobbies that are more man centred . CAMRA society for real ale, Ramblers, things that might have nice men that wouldn't be OLD. Current DP seems stuck in current life and very slow moving. Have you had a talk when you say 'I would be looking to have children in the next 2 years. How does that sit with you?' and watch his face!!

Boreded · 18/08/2025 12:31

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:14

@BorededI don’t think so - I picked him up from his mum’s house in the early days and there’s a disabled parking space outside. He’s open with his WhatsApps and there doesn’t seem to be a baby mum on there

Ah that’s good. Something just felt off when I was reading it all.

edited to add (since I didn’t think immediately) that the disabled mum doesn’t have to be non-existent. But he could have another family who think he looks after her at the weekend and Wednesday, and you think he looks after her the rest of time time.

smallsilvercloud · 18/08/2025 12:33

I would fear he’s a commitment phobe and his focus is more on his mum, too much hardwork to where you want him to be. I suppose if you give him another 4 months maximum, if your re not progressing any further then you’ve given it enough time and not regret breaking up. Unfortunately no guarantees a relationship progresses to marriage, it’s better to spend a year to find out who they are, for your sake than a whirlwind romance.

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:33

@Ukholidaysaregreati did join a walking group but it was full of weirdos. I also did say that about kids and he agreed because of his age but 2 years is far away in the future enough for him to not have to really think about it practically

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MotherOfShihTzus · 18/08/2025 12:34

Can you imagine him as a father, living with you and doing 50% of childcare / house admin? Is he really going to get there any time soon, given how cagey he is about commitment now?

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:35

@smallsilvercloudyeah my plan was to talk about what moving in together would look like once we’ve hit the year mark. I have seen more progression in the last 2 months since we went on holiday than the previous 6 so maybe it’s worth holding on although obvs I fear wasting my time

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:35

@smallsilvercloudyeah my plan was to talk about what moving in together would look like once we’ve hit the year mark. I have seen more progression in the last 2 months since we went on holiday than the previous 6 so maybe it’s worth holding on although obvs I fear wasting my time

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:35

@smallsilvercloudyeah my plan was to talk about what moving in together would look like once we’ve hit the year mark. I have seen more progression in the last 2 months since we went on holiday than the previous 6 so maybe it’s worth holding on although obvs I fear wasting my time

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occhiazzurri · 18/08/2025 12:37

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:29

@occhiazzurriwhen do you think I should have this conversation? If it was the other way around and he was rushing me before I felt ready would it be seen differently? Maybe not because of the biological clock

I would ask him to meet your family and friends as soon as an opportunity presents itself and then ask if you can meet his friends/Mum in the next 2-3 months. You can then reassess if things are moving in the right direction. Conversation regarding marriage/kids might be too soon at 8 months but you don’t want to wait longer than 12-16 months to discuss timeline. I genuinely don’t know a single person who was in their mid 30s and waited years to get married/have kids and it all worked out. I don’t think you are really rushing things since you are not asking him to marry you tomorrow.

ChristmasFluff · 18/08/2025 12:37

You may have said you don't want to be strung along, but you are being strung along!

For all you know, he could be a completely different person when he is around his mum or his friends. You are not 'progressing' in the relationship because you are not learning what sort of person he is around the other important people in his life - he is refusing to give you that chance.

Whatever the reason, the fact you've not met his mum and his friends is a huge red flag, and I'd be jumping ship at this point, rather than considering moving in.

BrassOlive · 18/08/2025 12:44

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:23

@BrassOliveI was thinking this last night. However, yesterday was a day of intense conversation and I think I might need to leave it for a while. Do you have any advice for when I should bring it up again?

I would give him a heads up that it's coming, so.. "Yesterday was a bit full on wasn't it? Hope you're feeling okay. I think we probably need to sit down, in a more planned way, and bottom this out once and for all. How about [whatever day]? We can't keep fumbling the issue like we did yesterday x"

VaddaABeetch · 18/08/2025 12:47

I really feel for you OP

You’re really trying but it’s like pushing water up a hill with him

Nobody here can give you magic words or some different behaviours that will make him commit.

At 40 he is half way through his life. I believe he does know what he wants. It’s not marriage & babies

You said the WG was full of weirdos we’ll join another, try different groups

RosesAndHellebores · 18/08/2025 12:49

A person's family and friends will tell you, metaphorically, far more about them than they ever will. He's holding back. It's a massive red flag.

Make a life for yourself @brightandbeautiful89 . You are still young and with everything ahead of you.

Join a church or a choir
Join a political party
Join the NWR
Go to the cinema and theatre on your own - don't miss out
Join a book club
Book activity holidays: sport/walking/painting/cooking/wine/Learn to sail
Take yourself on overnight trips to Paris, Barcelona, Madrid, etc.
Soend weekends visiting the UK's fab cities.
You may meet a man through any of those activities, your engagement with them will give you more depth and conversation. They will also.give you interests, things to look forward to, friendship circles and a good fulfilling and enriching life.

You owe all the above to yourself and yourself alone. If a good man comes along it's a bonus, if not, you still have a good life.

Don't waste your life waiting for a man or on OLD. Live it.

Oh, and buy yourself flowers.

brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:50

@occhiazzurrihe has already said that he would be looking to introduce me to his mum but not for another 6 months or so when the relationship is more established. Is pushing for more controlling/not respecting his boundaries? It does seem his family have an unusual attitude towards these things given his sister’s behaviour with her husband. He has no problem meeting my family and friends - we are going for brunch with my friends next month and did point that out to me when I said about him not being committed.

@BrassOlivethat soon? I was wondering if he might need more time to process. When I next see him I might say ‘I’ve been thinking about what you said about meeting your mum. Really I feel I’d need to meet her around the year mark to know that this is actually going somewhere’ or something along those lines

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:51

@VaddaABeetchwhere are all these groups that people talk about??? Meet up seems to have had it’s day

@RosesAndHelleboresi don’t want a life by myself though 😞

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brightandbeautiful89 · 18/08/2025 12:51

@VaddaABeetchwhere are all these groups that people talk about??? Meet up seems to have had it’s day

@RosesAndHelleboresi don’t want a life by myself though 😞

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RosesAndHellebores · 18/08/2025 12:57

@brightandbeautiful89 I know you don't but it isn't worth missing out on a good and enriching life, because you are waiting for the right man to come along. That may never happen and if so, why waste all that time waiting when you could have been making a life.

Don't you think a date will.find a woman who sees some of the world, watches films, discusses new books, has a love of music and a good social circle a better catch than a woman who spends her days swiping right or left.

Jasnah · 18/08/2025 12:58

"Not the done thing" is an excuse, sorry. And I agree with a PP that if all his friends are single, then that's another red flag in itself.

I've had a few boyfriends like that in the past. One turned out to be an overlap with his ex girlfriend, another who saw us moving in together in maybe 10 years and another for whom I was just convenient until something better came along (and who not only committed to his next girlfriend within weeks, but also went on to marry her within a year and have 2 children with her shortly after that). I ended up wasting far too much time on all of them, and still had enough at some point and broke it off.

My current partner introduced me to a friend on date 1 (who was his wingman and stayed in the same location in case I turned out to be an online nutter). I've met most of his friends 3 months in, and met his parents after 2 months.

He didn't commit to his last partner and they'd been together a decade.
We're talking about moving in and marriage 3 months into the relationship (though the timeline for that is set 2 and 3 years into the future, respectively, for practical and obvious reasons) and he is taking active steps towards making both possible. I do not have to beg. I do not have to question. He does it because he wants to.

When a man truly wants you, you will know it and there will be no doubt.

Busybeemumm · 18/08/2025 12:58

He is just not that into you.

Sorry for the bluntness. If he want to really be with you, then you would know and feel it and 8 months is plenty time. Currently you are getting just crumbs from him and he is wasting your time.

You are at high risk of missing out on having a family that you want if you stay with him. You deserve better.