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Dad disowned me over one comment- how do I fix it?

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erasemybrain · 10/08/2025 12:45

Hi, this is long.
I have previously had a brilliant relationship with my parents. I'm married and have 2 children. We have always been very close. My DH has no parents and they have treated him like a son. They have looked after our children - we have never paid childcare. We recently had a week off work to renovate a room in their house. We do a lot for each other. I speak to my mom every day and my dad every couple of days if we haven't seen them.
We usually holiday together and have done for years. Dad used to pay for the holiday and now we do (power shift?). We do all the work, cooking etc. We also do all the driving once we have arrived. We often do the same things on holiday - throw backs to when we were kids, but it's a very democratic and organic process deciding what we want to do and we don't have to do things all together.
Anyway- this year may half term we were on holiday- dad was celebrating a big birthday while we were there. Other family has come along to stay nearby. Everything was going well, we had had a nice day. It was his birthday the next day. We sorted dinner and my teen was being a bit rude/cheeky to me (as is often the case, testing boundaries!). He has been at the accommodation all day with my husband and the rest of us had been a couple of places (ie I hadn't been nagging him all day!) I told him he had been rude and he took that on the chin because he knew he had. My dad said "oh will you give it a rest" I said "if you don't like it go somewhere else" - there were numerous other places to be other than sat at the table with us. He had already finished his food.
Well this lot the touch paper and he got his car keys and drove off. He had left his phone behind and we all sort of carried on as normal. My mom did ask him not to go but he left anyway. He was gone a couple of hours and by the time he came back we were all in bed- small accommodation you could hear everything. He came in and seemed even more angry than when he left. He went into his bedroom and demanded that my mom pack his case. She was begging him to stay. My DS who had been cheeky was sobbing and begging him to stay. My mom said she had chest pain and he ignored her. He was packing his things and I slipped out of the chaos and sat in his car. I hoped that then I could talk to him and apologise (even though I didn't feel what I had said had warranted that reaction- we are normally people who say what we think!) He locked me in the car and I couldn't get out. I could hear my son sobbing and begging.
I have never seen him behave like this before he was so so angry. I saw my husband standing in his was asking him to stay and talk. My Dad said he didn't want to hit him but he would if he didn't move. Again this couldn't be more out of character. I was very very worried. Someone let me out of the car and I went in to try and get him to talk but he was fighting us to get out. All I could think of what if he crashes and dies my son will be affected forever.
The neighbours started shouting for us to keep the noise down and my dad started shouting for help. The look in his eyes was wild and I really felt like I didn't know him at all. My mom was still begging him to stay.
We let him leave. He drove 200 miles home.
There was an aftermath of trying to contact him and make sure he was ok. Mainly other family members. He would only really speak to my son. My other younger son was in bed and terrified of the whole thing.
I text him the next day but he was accusing me of assaulting him and was still clearly angry.
He hasn't spoken to me or my husband since. This shows no sign of improvement. He thinks we did a terrible thing trying to stop him from leaving. I did send him and email explaining how worried for him we were (this seems to make him angry that we were worried) that we only tried to stop him from leaving because we love him etc, etc. That resulted in him blocking me.
For clarity my husband stood in his way and held his hands up to his shoulders and stood his ground. I hugged him to stop him leaving. Arms round his waist.
Please help me fix this. I miss him so much. It feels like a dream that I'm going to wake up from. It was so out of character. I have thought some kind of medical issue but then why would he be carrying it on! I have told a few friends who know him (who have been on holiday with us and them) who can't believe it either!
Thank you so much for reading.

OP posts:
CurtainSunrise · 10/08/2025 14:54

I would put money on this man being a low-level abusive bully. He’s also probably full of pride and will never ever be able to reflect or admit his part in this dramatic fiasco.

Parentalalienation · 10/08/2025 14:54

I grew up with a father who used to fall out in lumps with their parents, storm out of their house and physically drag us all with him, not speak to them for a year or two, then we would rock up on their doorstep like nothing had happened.
There was nothing wrong with my father other than being a nasty piece of work, who we had all learned to tiptoe around. You didn't cross him or his anger would erupt.
As an adult, I gradually withdrew from any active relationship with either of my parents.
Unfortunately, @erasemybrain you can't fix this situation. Your father is in control and only he can fix things. Your mother probably lives in fear of his ire and has learned to dodge the bullets. You probably also lived like that until you grew into your own person who he wasn't able to control any more. All you can do is be aware of who he really is, now that you've seen his true colours.

Starlight7080 · 10/08/2025 14:57

Your update really shows what he is always like in situations that he doesnt like.
My grandad was like this and still is . He used to give my grandma silent treatment for weeks on end . Then would start talking again. No apology. But did expect to be treated like royalty in the meantime and everyone on eggshells.
He is just being controlling. And everyone goes along with it.
My grandma passed away and my grandad now talks as if he was a saint of a husband . Doesn't even realise it was abuse .
Instead he randomly cuts off his kids or grandkids if they have not done something he wants or done something he doesnt agree with . Can be as small as not visiting every other day when busy .

Mix56 · 10/08/2025 14:58

your Mum should ask him , Is he planning on joining the holiday? he needs stop sulking & ruining his own future relationship with the entire family. The whole thing is completely disproportionate, & your loving family can talk this through, & it will be forgotten, OR, he can choose to blow the whole thing apart. She (your Mum) will be going on holiday without him, as she has no intention of giving you & kids the cold shoulder..... Then let him get on with it

Account734 · 10/08/2025 14:58

If someone upset me and I tried to leave and then was physically restrained by a "hug" and a younger man blocking my path refusing to move until I threatened violence I would be absolutely furious. It's not ok to physically try to force someone to do what you want and that's what you and your husband were doing. You literally told your father to leave, he did and then you caused absolute chaos. Own it and apologise.

Treetop15 · 10/08/2025 14:58

It sounds like a very stifling existence for your father having to do everything with extended family all the time. I suspect he’s had enough of it a long time ago and just blew up in the end.

Starlight7080 · 10/08/2025 14:58

CurtainSunrise · 10/08/2025 14:54

I would put money on this man being a low-level abusive bully. He’s also probably full of pride and will never ever be able to reflect or admit his part in this dramatic fiasco.

Fully agree. And his family are all conditioned to think its normal and he is a really nice guy

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 14:59

Shitmonger · 10/08/2025 14:38

And you don’t tell a grown woman how to parent her son. You don’t interfere and disrespectfully undermine her by telling her to “give it a rest.” You don’t set a bad example for her son when she is addressing his behaviour.

OP’s comment was abrupt but a direct response to his rudeness and disrespect.

Correct. And then to storm off for hours, clearly trying to upset people, but as he didn't get enough attention he then came storming angrily back while everyone was in bed making heated demands of her weeping mother in order to cause maximum distress instead of just quietly leaving or simply going to bed like a normal person behaving like a grown man

An actual grown man behaving like this over being told he could go somewhere else as a response to his rude and interfering comment is frankly astonishing.

And then to ignore his poor grandson's weeping and begging and storm off, then to continue to torture his grandchildren and his daughter for months.

The man is appalling. I am shocked that OP is pandering to this at all.

Reportedex · 10/08/2025 14:59

BrentfordForever · 10/08/2025 14:04

This 1000%

in some cultures the way you spoke to him would be very insulting (I’d be insulted too)

rest of reactions too much even for me reading

if you want him to forget start by apologising

Yeah this.

Louise122 · 10/08/2025 15:00

just had a similar personality change in a family member and months later turned out they’d been having mini strokes and personality just changed . Needs to see GP

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 15:01

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 14:59

Correct. And then to storm off for hours, clearly trying to upset people, but as he didn't get enough attention he then came storming angrily back while everyone was in bed making heated demands of her weeping mother in order to cause maximum distress instead of just quietly leaving or simply going to bed like a normal person behaving like a grown man

An actual grown man behaving like this over being told he could go somewhere else as a response to his rude and interfering comment is frankly astonishing.

And then to ignore his poor grandson's weeping and begging and storm off, then to continue to torture his grandchildren and his daughter for months.

The man is appalling. I am shocked that OP is pandering to this at all.

So yeah, he's an abusive ill tempered bullying old pig.

And OP should NOT be subjecting her children to his deliberate torture by turning up at his house, ever again.

See your mother elsewhere.

HelpMeGetThrough · 10/08/2025 15:02

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 14:59

Correct. And then to storm off for hours, clearly trying to upset people, but as he didn't get enough attention he then came storming angrily back while everyone was in bed making heated demands of her weeping mother in order to cause maximum distress instead of just quietly leaving or simply going to bed like a normal person behaving like a grown man

An actual grown man behaving like this over being told he could go somewhere else as a response to his rude and interfering comment is frankly astonishing.

And then to ignore his poor grandson's weeping and begging and storm off, then to continue to torture his grandchildren and his daughter for months.

The man is appalling. I am shocked that OP is pandering to this at all.

Well, he’s the “head” of the family isn’t he.

Theres nothing medically wrong with him unless being a self important twat is now an illness.

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 10/08/2025 15:03

He completely overreacted but if you've ever had anyone physically block you from leaving, it's a really terrible horrible experience that can completely enrage people (like a cornered animal). Unless there are credible reasons (attempted drink driving, actually actively psychotic and at risk of harm / harming, a young child, severely learning disabled etc) no one should prevent someone from leaving a space. Not only did your husband physically block him, but you threw your arms around his waist and tried to restrain him that way and got in his car. It's lucky he didn't feel so cornered and actually hit your husband, there would be no way back from that.

I also don't know if the 'I thought you might have dementia / worried about you because you looked so angry' route will work. He's gone back to work with seemingly no issue and your mum hasn't noticed anything else. I mean, if a whole family restrained and cornered me to the point I started shouting for help and then said it happened because they thought I had dementia or was mentally unstable, I would find it hard to forgive them tbh. A family member and I once had an argument and they started messaging my DH saying they were concerned about my mental health and I've never forgotten it.

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 15:03

HelpMeGetThrough · 10/08/2025 15:02

Well, he’s the “head” of the family isn’t he.

Theres nothing medically wrong with him unless being a self important twat is now an illness.

Agree, he is perfectly well, he's just a horrible person, and he has form for it according to OP's description of how his mother tries to manage his behaviour.

Fluffyholeysocks · 10/08/2025 15:04

Absolutely stop apologising ! You've apologised so the ball is in his court. All this grovelling/upset/how can I make this right is feeding this drama. There is no way my sons grandfather would want my son in tears! Stop pandering to him - if he accepted your apology you could have all moved on by now. But no, he overreacted massively causing maximum upset. Wait for him to calm down- i suspect he knows he's unreasonable. But whatever you do, do not allow him to upset you kids like this again.

Invinoveritaz · 10/08/2025 15:04

My dad started behaving like this about 5 years before he was diagnosed with frontal temporal dementia. It can make a person very paranoid and irrational, however, the memory is not badly affected till much later so it’s not always picked up early.
it could well be medical.

YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfitt · 10/08/2025 15:04

Are you still sending your kids round for childcare? Because I’d be stopping that to be honest. I wouldn’t let my kids see me being treated/bullied like this and just accepting it. I dunno, maybe easy for me to say if they have a relationship with him 🤷‍♀️

yellowingdoors · 10/08/2025 15:05

I guess in his mind it’s escalated from you making a lightly flippant remark…to his family ‘restraining’ him and ‘questioning his sanity’. Perhaps he’s now stewed on this for so long he doesn’t know how to let it go. If it’s out of character, it does seem like such a strange over reaction though.

The only thing I’d suggest is writing him a letter. You love him, you want your family all back together, so send him a heartfelt letter letting him know you love him and never meant to hurt him. Sometimes a big act of de-escalation can help. I always take the view that with people I love, life is just too short to fall out.

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 15:07

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 10/08/2025 15:03

He completely overreacted but if you've ever had anyone physically block you from leaving, it's a really terrible horrible experience that can completely enrage people (like a cornered animal). Unless there are credible reasons (attempted drink driving, actually actively psychotic and at risk of harm / harming, a young child, severely learning disabled etc) no one should prevent someone from leaving a space. Not only did your husband physically block him, but you threw your arms around his waist and tried to restrain him that way and got in his car. It's lucky he didn't feel so cornered and actually hit your husband, there would be no way back from that.

I also don't know if the 'I thought you might have dementia / worried about you because you looked so angry' route will work. He's gone back to work with seemingly no issue and your mum hasn't noticed anything else. I mean, if a whole family restrained and cornered me to the point I started shouting for help and then said it happened because they thought I had dementia or was mentally unstable, I would find it hard to forgive them tbh. A family member and I once had an argument and they started messaging my DH saying they were concerned about my mental health and I've never forgotten it.

Nope. He could have quietly returned after he stormed off over nothing, packed a bag and left with no fuss at all, and he should certainly not have come back angrily making demands that his servant, oh sorry wife, pack his bag after everyone was in bed.

He did his level best to ensure maximum disruption and cause distress, and got precisely what he wanted.

TwoBlueFish · 10/08/2025 15:07

You said it was a significant birthday I think. You’re paying for holidays, you’re doing the driving. Maybe he fees his place in the family is being eroded, feels that he’s now being treated as old and past it.

Nobody handled it very well. Can your other sibling talk to him about it?

Makingitupaswegoalong · 10/08/2025 15:07

Is it really a personality change, if as your update says, he has form for big strops and freezing people out? Can he not cope with the power shift of realising he is not the alpha male anymore?

I think write him a letter offering an olive branch if you haven’t already and then leave it.

ThatBlackCat · 10/08/2025 15:08

You haven't answered about medical issues. How old is he? I'd be thinking it's mental/cognitive health, ie dementia. Can your mum get him a doctor's appointment (and go with him) to have him checked out?

Idontknowhatnametochoose · 10/08/2025 15:08

It sounds like he has a nasty streak but until that day you hadn't been witness to it whereas your mum had.

Awful situation but I think all you can do is leave your dad to it. Hes probably enjoying the drama and concern.

usedtobeaylis · 10/08/2025 15:09

Account734 · 10/08/2025 14:58

If someone upset me and I tried to leave and then was physically restrained by a "hug" and a younger man blocking my path refusing to move until I threatened violence I would be absolutely furious. It's not ok to physically try to force someone to do what you want and that's what you and your husband were doing. You literally told your father to leave, he did and then you caused absolute chaos. Own it and apologise.

She's already apologised. Leave her alone.

usedtobeaylis · 10/08/2025 15:10

Why are multiple posts telling her to apologise? She has already apologised 'profusely'. Her kid has wept and apologised. There should be no more apologising unless it's coming from him.

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