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Dad disowned me over one comment- how do I fix it?

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erasemybrain · 10/08/2025 12:45

Hi, this is long.
I have previously had a brilliant relationship with my parents. I'm married and have 2 children. We have always been very close. My DH has no parents and they have treated him like a son. They have looked after our children - we have never paid childcare. We recently had a week off work to renovate a room in their house. We do a lot for each other. I speak to my mom every day and my dad every couple of days if we haven't seen them.
We usually holiday together and have done for years. Dad used to pay for the holiday and now we do (power shift?). We do all the work, cooking etc. We also do all the driving once we have arrived. We often do the same things on holiday - throw backs to when we were kids, but it's a very democratic and organic process deciding what we want to do and we don't have to do things all together.
Anyway- this year may half term we were on holiday- dad was celebrating a big birthday while we were there. Other family has come along to stay nearby. Everything was going well, we had had a nice day. It was his birthday the next day. We sorted dinner and my teen was being a bit rude/cheeky to me (as is often the case, testing boundaries!). He has been at the accommodation all day with my husband and the rest of us had been a couple of places (ie I hadn't been nagging him all day!) I told him he had been rude and he took that on the chin because he knew he had. My dad said "oh will you give it a rest" I said "if you don't like it go somewhere else" - there were numerous other places to be other than sat at the table with us. He had already finished his food.
Well this lot the touch paper and he got his car keys and drove off. He had left his phone behind and we all sort of carried on as normal. My mom did ask him not to go but he left anyway. He was gone a couple of hours and by the time he came back we were all in bed- small accommodation you could hear everything. He came in and seemed even more angry than when he left. He went into his bedroom and demanded that my mom pack his case. She was begging him to stay. My DS who had been cheeky was sobbing and begging him to stay. My mom said she had chest pain and he ignored her. He was packing his things and I slipped out of the chaos and sat in his car. I hoped that then I could talk to him and apologise (even though I didn't feel what I had said had warranted that reaction- we are normally people who say what we think!) He locked me in the car and I couldn't get out. I could hear my son sobbing and begging.
I have never seen him behave like this before he was so so angry. I saw my husband standing in his was asking him to stay and talk. My Dad said he didn't want to hit him but he would if he didn't move. Again this couldn't be more out of character. I was very very worried. Someone let me out of the car and I went in to try and get him to talk but he was fighting us to get out. All I could think of what if he crashes and dies my son will be affected forever.
The neighbours started shouting for us to keep the noise down and my dad started shouting for help. The look in his eyes was wild and I really felt like I didn't know him at all. My mom was still begging him to stay.
We let him leave. He drove 200 miles home.
There was an aftermath of trying to contact him and make sure he was ok. Mainly other family members. He would only really speak to my son. My other younger son was in bed and terrified of the whole thing.
I text him the next day but he was accusing me of assaulting him and was still clearly angry.
He hasn't spoken to me or my husband since. This shows no sign of improvement. He thinks we did a terrible thing trying to stop him from leaving. I did send him and email explaining how worried for him we were (this seems to make him angry that we were worried) that we only tried to stop him from leaving because we love him etc, etc. That resulted in him blocking me.
For clarity my husband stood in his way and held his hands up to his shoulders and stood his ground. I hugged him to stop him leaving. Arms round his waist.
Please help me fix this. I miss him so much. It feels like a dream that I'm going to wake up from. It was so out of character. I have thought some kind of medical issue but then why would he be carrying it on! I have told a few friends who know him (who have been on holiday with us and them) who can't believe it either!
Thank you so much for reading.

OP posts:
DoRayMeMeMe · 10/08/2025 18:34

Reportedex · 10/08/2025 17:29

I would have phoned the police the minute any of them set their hands on me or tried to obstruct me leaving.

Which does not answer the question.

Would you wake up the house, and demand that you are packed for. Or would you just leave?

Stompythedinosaur · 10/08/2025 18:35

I think you have to have a careful think about whether his behaviour is genuinely out of character or whether you've just never challenged him before.

While you were a bit rude, he was rude first and locking you in a car and threatening to hit your dh are totally beyond reasonable.

The whole situation sounds excessively dramatic, which I guess is what he wanted. My abusive father used to pull the "driving away while on holiday and making people worry" stunt, so I can tell you confidently it will affect you dc.

Personally I'd probably leave him to it. Don't give it to his control. You have your dh and your dc, let him sulk forever if he so chooses. If he doesn't love you enough to move on from this, he never loved you at all.

LindorDoubleChoc · 10/08/2025 18:38

Crikey! What an unusual family you have OP.

MikeRafone · 10/08/2025 18:41

Early symptoms of Parkinson's disease can include irritability and aggression, alongside other mood changes like anxiety and depression. These behavioral changes can manifest as increased anger, frustration, impatience, or even verbal abusiveness. These mood changes can be a significant concern for both the individual with Parkinson's and their caregivers.

its worthwhile getting check out

CleaningAngel · 10/08/2025 18:41

erasemybrain · 10/08/2025 12:45

Hi, this is long.
I have previously had a brilliant relationship with my parents. I'm married and have 2 children. We have always been very close. My DH has no parents and they have treated him like a son. They have looked after our children - we have never paid childcare. We recently had a week off work to renovate a room in their house. We do a lot for each other. I speak to my mom every day and my dad every couple of days if we haven't seen them.
We usually holiday together and have done for years. Dad used to pay for the holiday and now we do (power shift?). We do all the work, cooking etc. We also do all the driving once we have arrived. We often do the same things on holiday - throw backs to when we were kids, but it's a very democratic and organic process deciding what we want to do and we don't have to do things all together.
Anyway- this year may half term we were on holiday- dad was celebrating a big birthday while we were there. Other family has come along to stay nearby. Everything was going well, we had had a nice day. It was his birthday the next day. We sorted dinner and my teen was being a bit rude/cheeky to me (as is often the case, testing boundaries!). He has been at the accommodation all day with my husband and the rest of us had been a couple of places (ie I hadn't been nagging him all day!) I told him he had been rude and he took that on the chin because he knew he had. My dad said "oh will you give it a rest" I said "if you don't like it go somewhere else" - there were numerous other places to be other than sat at the table with us. He had already finished his food.
Well this lot the touch paper and he got his car keys and drove off. He had left his phone behind and we all sort of carried on as normal. My mom did ask him not to go but he left anyway. He was gone a couple of hours and by the time he came back we were all in bed- small accommodation you could hear everything. He came in and seemed even more angry than when he left. He went into his bedroom and demanded that my mom pack his case. She was begging him to stay. My DS who had been cheeky was sobbing and begging him to stay. My mom said she had chest pain and he ignored her. He was packing his things and I slipped out of the chaos and sat in his car. I hoped that then I could talk to him and apologise (even though I didn't feel what I had said had warranted that reaction- we are normally people who say what we think!) He locked me in the car and I couldn't get out. I could hear my son sobbing and begging.
I have never seen him behave like this before he was so so angry. I saw my husband standing in his was asking him to stay and talk. My Dad said he didn't want to hit him but he would if he didn't move. Again this couldn't be more out of character. I was very very worried. Someone let me out of the car and I went in to try and get him to talk but he was fighting us to get out. All I could think of what if he crashes and dies my son will be affected forever.
The neighbours started shouting for us to keep the noise down and my dad started shouting for help. The look in his eyes was wild and I really felt like I didn't know him at all. My mom was still begging him to stay.
We let him leave. He drove 200 miles home.
There was an aftermath of trying to contact him and make sure he was ok. Mainly other family members. He would only really speak to my son. My other younger son was in bed and terrified of the whole thing.
I text him the next day but he was accusing me of assaulting him and was still clearly angry.
He hasn't spoken to me or my husband since. This shows no sign of improvement. He thinks we did a terrible thing trying to stop him from leaving. I did send him and email explaining how worried for him we were (this seems to make him angry that we were worried) that we only tried to stop him from leaving because we love him etc, etc. That resulted in him blocking me.
For clarity my husband stood in his way and held his hands up to his shoulders and stood his ground. I hugged him to stop him leaving. Arms round his waist.
Please help me fix this. I miss him so much. It feels like a dream that I'm going to wake up from. It was so out of character. I have thought some kind of medical issue but then why would he be carrying it on! I have told a few friends who know him (who have been on holiday with us and them) who can't believe it either!
Thank you so much for reading.

Ignore him and let him stew in his own juice. Never heard such stupid behaviour

GoodPudding · 10/08/2025 18:41

hideawayforever · 10/08/2025 13:13

yes, I've heard about this too

Yes, my grandfather became violent and abusive with a UTI many years ago - completely out of character - he was fine again once the antibiotics kicked in.

tommyhoundmum · 10/08/2025 18:44

How old is your father?

GoodPudding · 10/08/2025 18:45

LindorDoubleChoc · 10/08/2025 18:38

Crikey! What an unusual family you have OP.

Very few, if any, families don’t have drama from time to time (sometimes most or all the time). It’s much more unusual to have a family that never ever has any fall outs!

TiredAH · 10/08/2025 18:45

Totally over the top reaction.
Rule out medical issues-early onset dementia (depending on age) might sometimes present as some sort of emotional disregulation at the beginning.
All the best OP

PollyPansy · 10/08/2025 18:47

None of you handled the situation well at all but what strikes me is the way you word things like you were giving him a "hug" to stop him leaving, no, you were restraining him.

"I slipped out of the chaos and sat in his car" I think you deliberately jumped into his car so that he then couldn't get in to drive away.

I tend to think that when a person minimises their own actions, they also tend to exaggerate the other persons actions.

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 10/08/2025 18:50

He might have dementia, Parkinson's, brain tumour, stroke, UTI or he might just be, you know, an arsehole.

Across the whole spectrum of human experience some people are unpleasant, dramatic, angry, cruel, moody, irrational, impulsive or they have moments where they just snap a bit and act horribly. If they're not doing something actually properly dangerous you don't restrain people for being dicks or having angry faces or pulling random strops however horrible you think they're being!

stayathomer · 10/08/2025 18:52

JLou08

This is so dramatic I wonder if it is true. He was dramatic wanting to leave over one comment. Your mum was dramatic begging him to stay and saying she had chest pain. You and your DH were very dramatic trying to stop him from leaving and causing such a commotion that your child was crying and neighbours were complaining. It's all utterly ridiculous. You should have just let him go.

I don’t doubt it is true but you were all ott tbh. And speaking to your dad in the first place like that, maybe just one comment but a pretty harsh one!!

latetothefisting · 10/08/2025 18:53

"She says when he falls out with her and gives her the silent treatment he will just suddenly act like nothing has happened."
"He demanded that my mom pack his case."
"I think it is a shift in power."
"I've spoken to my Mom more she has told me about when they have fallen out before. He has done this to her on a much more low key level lots of times before. Often around potentially enjoyable events."

Why are people still suggesting UTIs and other things to explain why he is acting "Out of character?"
It's clearly NOT out of character, he's just managed to hide it from the wider family until now but this is completely in character for the way he treats OP's mother, and possibly other people she hasn't witnessed (colleagues/service staff etc.)

HatandCoat · 10/08/2025 18:54

You and your husband were completely in the wrong to physically restrain an adult who wanted to sulk off in a temper. Your behaviour was crazy.

latetothefisting · 10/08/2025 18:59

stayathomer · 10/08/2025 18:52

JLou08

This is so dramatic I wonder if it is true. He was dramatic wanting to leave over one comment. Your mum was dramatic begging him to stay and saying she had chest pain. You and your DH were very dramatic trying to stop him from leaving and causing such a commotion that your child was crying and neighbours were complaining. It's all utterly ridiculous. You should have just let him go.

I don’t doubt it is true but you were all ott tbh. And speaking to your dad in the first place like that, maybe just one comment but a pretty harsh one!!

Did you miss the part where she was only rude to him, because he was rude to her first?
a - he shouldn't have been interfering in her parenting anyway
b - if he wanted to stick up for his DGS he could have worded it far less rudely, e.g. "ah leave him alone,"

Personally I think being told to give it a rest is far ruder than the suggestion that if you don't like something to go elsewhere

Skodacool · 10/08/2025 19:02

@Justno98. Absolutely spot on!

PollyPansy · 10/08/2025 19:12

latetothefisting · 10/08/2025 18:59

Did you miss the part where she was only rude to him, because he was rude to her first?
a - he shouldn't have been interfering in her parenting anyway
b - if he wanted to stick up for his DGS he could have worded it far less rudely, e.g. "ah leave him alone,"

Personally I think being told to give it a rest is far ruder than the suggestion that if you don't like something to go elsewhere

Maybe she could have taken the teen into another room to have a word with him about being rude rather than doing it at the dinner table in front of other people.

latetothefisting · 10/08/2025 19:27

PollyPansy · 10/08/2025 19:12

Maybe she could have taken the teen into another room to have a word with him about being rude rather than doing it at the dinner table in front of other people.

what has that got to do with anything though? that would only be relevant if it was her SON who had kicked off

her dad CHOSE to get involved the conversation. If he hadn't (like everyone else there) OP wouldn't have said anything to him.

Why are you so desperate to blame everything on OP?

I think there are lots of things OP could be criticised for in the scenario, but at the end of the day the dad started it all by choosing to butt in to the exchange between OP and her son, when it had nothing to do with him.

PollyPansy · 10/08/2025 19:44

latetothefisting · 10/08/2025 19:27

what has that got to do with anything though? that would only be relevant if it was her SON who had kicked off

her dad CHOSE to get involved the conversation. If he hadn't (like everyone else there) OP wouldn't have said anything to him.

Why are you so desperate to blame everything on OP?

I think there are lots of things OP could be criticised for in the scenario, but at the end of the day the dad started it all by choosing to butt in to the exchange between OP and her son, when it had nothing to do with him.

"Why are you so desperate to blame everything on OP?" 😂

OCDandUS · 10/08/2025 19:49

I am guessing his business problems and aging have made him feel emasculated - you basically belittling him by telling him to go elsewhere when he can't afford elsewhere, your hubby showing he is physically stronger than him ...Your dad's behaviour is not OK but I can see why it all blew up.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 10/08/2025 19:51

None of it is @erasemybrain fault fgs. 🤦‍♀️
Ddad has issues and caused all the drama. End of.
OP alludes to his pattern of behaviour with her Dmum.
Likely everyone placates him as a normality in the family. This time OP changed the pattern and all hell broke loose. Ddad's reaction and ensuing behaviour is so extreme OP is better off LC/NC with him.

TorroFerney · 10/08/2025 19:53

Well when I posted I did hope I wasn’t right and he wasn’t a massive bellend. But sadly I was. Agree with others call his bluff, no fawning and he doesn’t get rewarded for his behaviour by seeing your children , he needs you to facilitate the relationship with the children. You have the power here, you aren’t a little girl any more you don’t need him.

mumtoadhdadult · 10/08/2025 20:41

Sundaybananas · 10/08/2025 12:59

Sorry but i think your response was way out of line. Probably easy to say in hindsight but you should have just let him go, all calmed down, and dealt with it calmly later. Multiple people physically restraining him is not OK.

But they did leave him! He went off for hours!

my first thought that he was angry when he flounced out that no one ran after him. But it sounds really odd.

underthebridge999 · 10/08/2025 21:00

OP, your later posts revealed what I had been wondering. Does he have form for this? Yes. With your mum. Now you.

I don’t have advice that you may like to hear. Your family dynamics sound very close with being together over many years including frequent holidays together and running a business together.

I was surprised to read that you were unaware of his treatment to your mum before (talking rudely to her and being bossy) with all the closeness.

I think stop crowding him and get on with your life and other family relationships. I am sure he will calm down eventually.

I always had a traditional-type of relationship with my dad and never act like his friend, chiding him and said such words to him like, “Go sit somewhere else.” Obviously I don’t know your relationship with your dad but it sounds like you feel you can speak freely to him. This is where it fell apart.

The relationship with your DCs is what matters most here and leading by example and not gossiping around the family about all this. How did the sibling know about what happened and then they reported back that your dad didn’t say anything? Is no one entitled to privacy in their conversations in the family? More examples of personal barriers being ignored.

I think sometimes adult children can mistake the way they interact with their parents and be too familiar sometimes. This is probably what it is and it sounds as though the whole family is gossiping about his reaction and behaviour.

DipsyDee · 10/08/2025 21:10

You father is so far down the victim route he can’t pull himself out of it. Next time you go over to see your mum go into the room he is sitting in and tell him that you have apologised for your action numerous times and you will not be doing it again. He also needs to acknowledge and apologise for his own behaviour. Also if he continues down this road he will be the one worse off and not you and it will all be if his doing. Time to stand up to him

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