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Dad disowned me over one comment- how do I fix it?

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erasemybrain · 10/08/2025 12:45

Hi, this is long.
I have previously had a brilliant relationship with my parents. I'm married and have 2 children. We have always been very close. My DH has no parents and they have treated him like a son. They have looked after our children - we have never paid childcare. We recently had a week off work to renovate a room in their house. We do a lot for each other. I speak to my mom every day and my dad every couple of days if we haven't seen them.
We usually holiday together and have done for years. Dad used to pay for the holiday and now we do (power shift?). We do all the work, cooking etc. We also do all the driving once we have arrived. We often do the same things on holiday - throw backs to when we were kids, but it's a very democratic and organic process deciding what we want to do and we don't have to do things all together.
Anyway- this year may half term we were on holiday- dad was celebrating a big birthday while we were there. Other family has come along to stay nearby. Everything was going well, we had had a nice day. It was his birthday the next day. We sorted dinner and my teen was being a bit rude/cheeky to me (as is often the case, testing boundaries!). He has been at the accommodation all day with my husband and the rest of us had been a couple of places (ie I hadn't been nagging him all day!) I told him he had been rude and he took that on the chin because he knew he had. My dad said "oh will you give it a rest" I said "if you don't like it go somewhere else" - there were numerous other places to be other than sat at the table with us. He had already finished his food.
Well this lot the touch paper and he got his car keys and drove off. He had left his phone behind and we all sort of carried on as normal. My mom did ask him not to go but he left anyway. He was gone a couple of hours and by the time he came back we were all in bed- small accommodation you could hear everything. He came in and seemed even more angry than when he left. He went into his bedroom and demanded that my mom pack his case. She was begging him to stay. My DS who had been cheeky was sobbing and begging him to stay. My mom said she had chest pain and he ignored her. He was packing his things and I slipped out of the chaos and sat in his car. I hoped that then I could talk to him and apologise (even though I didn't feel what I had said had warranted that reaction- we are normally people who say what we think!) He locked me in the car and I couldn't get out. I could hear my son sobbing and begging.
I have never seen him behave like this before he was so so angry. I saw my husband standing in his was asking him to stay and talk. My Dad said he didn't want to hit him but he would if he didn't move. Again this couldn't be more out of character. I was very very worried. Someone let me out of the car and I went in to try and get him to talk but he was fighting us to get out. All I could think of what if he crashes and dies my son will be affected forever.
The neighbours started shouting for us to keep the noise down and my dad started shouting for help. The look in his eyes was wild and I really felt like I didn't know him at all. My mom was still begging him to stay.
We let him leave. He drove 200 miles home.
There was an aftermath of trying to contact him and make sure he was ok. Mainly other family members. He would only really speak to my son. My other younger son was in bed and terrified of the whole thing.
I text him the next day but he was accusing me of assaulting him and was still clearly angry.
He hasn't spoken to me or my husband since. This shows no sign of improvement. He thinks we did a terrible thing trying to stop him from leaving. I did send him and email explaining how worried for him we were (this seems to make him angry that we were worried) that we only tried to stop him from leaving because we love him etc, etc. That resulted in him blocking me.
For clarity my husband stood in his way and held his hands up to his shoulders and stood his ground. I hugged him to stop him leaving. Arms round his waist.
Please help me fix this. I miss him so much. It feels like a dream that I'm going to wake up from. It was so out of character. I have thought some kind of medical issue but then why would he be carrying it on! I have told a few friends who know him (who have been on holiday with us and them) who can't believe it either!
Thank you so much for reading.

OP posts:
Squishymallows · 10/08/2025 14:13

So strange, does seem like it could be a medical issue like Alzheimer’s.

if it’s not, what’s happened here is he has massively overreacted. Then embarrassed himself a bit so he’s doubled down on leaving. Then you all tried to stop him leaving which he can now claim was physical assault and therefore has taken the limelight away from the original issue. And he can point fingers at your guys being the bad guy

Hiptothisjive · 10/08/2025 14:14

Moltenpink · 10/08/2025 12:56

From personal experience, being restrained and powerless is a really horrible feeling. Being made to feel weak and not in control is probably the cause of all this

Totally agree.

Over the top response from everyone. Why did you all escalate so quickly and completely overreact? Why was your teen sobbing and begging. Everyone is at fault here.

He probably felt trapped and pinned.
You all massively overreacted .
Hes a grown man and allowed to leave. Why didn’t you let him? If it had been the reverse how would you have felt?
Why didn’t you just let it calm down?

What a horrible situation that was handled badly all around. Send them a note and apologise then leave then to have some space. You are all too much in each others pockets.

speakball · 10/08/2025 14:14

She says when he falls out with her and gives her the silent treatment he will just suddenly act like nothing has happened. I've been hoping for that for so long!

So you’ve probably been groomed too if your overriding feelings were hoping that your dad would hit the reset button. That’s what it’s called when someone is used to wounding people emotionally and then having everyone go along with the ‘it didn’t happen’ narrative. Did your mum say how long this had been happening for? Was he a kind and nurturing husband and father?

FinanceLPlates · 10/08/2025 14:14

Which big birthday was it? 70? 80? Sometimes a big birthday can make you reflect on your life and where it’s going. And frankly getting old is not exactly a rosy prospect, with inevitable decline coming closer.

Has he always been “top dog” and now he feels vulnerable to being replaced in that role by the younger generation? A bit of a patriarch whose image of himself is under threat?

With that background, what you said may have hit a nerve. And then to be physically restrained from leaving would have compounded the sense of losing control, autonomy and authority.

(Not condoning anyone’s behaviour, just suggesting a potential explanation)

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 14:14

She says when he falls out with her and gives her the silent treatment he will just suddenly act like nothing has happened

OP I get the feeling your dad has abusive tendencies that your mother is aware of, and he's developing some sort of dementia that means he's less able to conceal them now.

sonjadog · 10/08/2025 14:15

I thought too that it was possibly a undiagnosed medical condition, but your revelation about your Mum reveals that this is who he is. You just haven't seen this nasty side of him before. Leave him to stew. When you aren't running around wondering how to fix this, you may be surprised how quickly he gets over himself.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 10/08/2025 14:16

Honestly he did not behave well but it sounds like he has a longstanding issue with you.

His saying "give it a rest" suggests you'd been going on at your son in a way that was spoiling the holiday for him.

Your saying "if you don't like it etc" strikes me as very rude and quite ironic given that you were telling your own son off for disrespectful!

The fact that he is happy to be with the children now says to me it's not a medical issue but that he is specifically angry with you.

His behaviour is OTT but it does sound (sorry) like you were throwing your weight around quite a lot and he is sick of it.

Idontgiveashitanymore · 10/08/2025 14:16

Just leave him to it, check in on mum and get on with your life.

BrentfordForever · 10/08/2025 14:17

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 14:06

if you want him to forget start by apologising

Why? He snapped at her first, and then he overreacted first (I don't disagree that there was a mass overreaction though btw).

Cause you don’t talk to a grown man like this

if anyone did this to me I’d tell them to fuck right off, that poor man just tried to get away from that crazy drama!!

very likely it’s built up as well, he’s had enough!

BrentfordForever · 10/08/2025 14:18

Also “give it a rest” is not snapping

there is an appropriate way to tell someone to mind their own business and it wasn’t the way OP responded

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 14:19

Cause you don’t talk to a grown man like this

But he talked rudely to a grown woman first. If he can dish it out, he needs to take it.

"Give it a rest" is about the definition of a snappy comment.

Hiptothisjive · 10/08/2025 14:19

OP I’m sorry but you really need to understand your part in this. He is a grown working man and you were so worried that you begged him to stay calmly but the neighbours came out to tell you to be quiet. Also, you were so worried he would drive 200 miles as it was late - are you his keeper? The man works so would have been capable. There isn’t anything wrong with him in my book (and I have close family with dementia). You didn’t like his reaction which escalated with your reaction and you want there to be a reason. You treated him like a complete child: thats the reason.

Featherbeds · 10/08/2025 14:20

That’s perfectly possible, @Viviennemary .

And I can’t help feeling that everyone was incredibly melodramatic at the time, OP. One man disappeared for a sulk for a couple of hours after a tiff and then announces he’s going home early from a holiday, and suddenly your cheeky teenager is ‘sobbing and begging’, your mother is begging him to stay and having chest pains, your DH is blocking him, you’re locked in the car, your other child is terrified in bed, and there’s so much noise and struggle the neighbours are disturbed? And you’re thinking that if he crashes the car while en route home, your teenager will be marked for life?

I mean, do you all normally behave like Eastenders characters?

When someone sulks and stalks off, you let them. You don’t inflame the situation further.

RentalWoesNotFun · 10/08/2025 14:20

NeverDropYourMooncup · 10/08/2025 13:32

So he was

Fed up
Irritated by his GS being snapped at
Snappy
Got snapped at and told pretty much to fuck off if he didn't like it. So he did. And decided that actually, yes, he has had enough and would therefore do exactly what his daughter had instructed him to do.
Had his wife screaming and crying and claiming that she was having symptoms that could have been a heart attack
A teenager wailing and crying
HIs daughter blocking his escape route (the car)
His daughter wailing and crying
His daughter's husband grabbing him and blocking his escape route
His daughter smothering/grabbing at him whilst wailing and crying
Everybody around him that he sees almost all of the time everyday shouting and wailing and crying and grabbing at him because he's not allowed to get away from what's clearly become far too much for him

If you want to trigger anybody's fight response, you certainly went about it the right way as you all obstructed his actual first instinct, which was flight.

This 100%

Your family appears to handle conflict badly. You should have begged him to stay but not touched him. That’s assault.

If you want him back you’ll have to apologise.
He’s been babied by your mum for years. So Hes used to not speaking to people until he feels they’ve suffered enough. You won’t change him now. So it’s his way it the high way, which ironically is what YOU told HIM that started all of this…

So if you want him in your life you need to give him a way to save face and feel his feelings then have been listened to.

If he won’t see you to apologise to him in person write a letter. Apologies profusely for anything and everything. All of you who offended him should write their own one apologising for their bit in this weird situation. Even if you feel it’s not totally your fault if you want things back to how they were you need to do this.

Even then it may still not be enough.

He may be suffering from dementia or just fed up with the weird family dynamic who knows.

usedtobeaylis · 10/08/2025 14:20

It sounds like it's usually your mum that is on the receiving end. This happened with a relative of mine one Christmas, very few of us had ever seen that side of him in person but it was common knowledge that he often changed on the flip of a switch and was actually quite abusive to his wife. It wasn't nice to finally witness it.

The fact that your mum is used to his mood changes and the silent treatment etc suggests it's not a medical problem. I know you want to give him the benefit of the doubt but he is being cruel. Whatever did or didn't happen - and the whole thing just sounds like an escalation over not very much - he is being cruel to you and that's the bottom line. You have already apologised, despite not really having anything to apologise for, so just leave it if you can.

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 14:21

She says when he falls out with her and gives her the silent treatment he will just suddenly act like nothing has happened. I've been hoping for that for so long!

Ah, so he's always been viciously abusive. Time to move on from your abusive father, you do not have the right to inflict this man on your children.

Givemeachaitealatte · 10/08/2025 14:21

It's not totally out of character then if he does this to your mum. I bet he's used to being the man of the family and with the power shift he is starting to feel old and perhaps vulnerable, especially as it was his birthday - my dad goes weird around his birthday too as it reminds him he's getting older.

The whole incident does sound dramatic, yes you were rude to him but his reaction was that of a man baby - I wouldn't have liked being blocked from leaving though and as it was a younger man, probably who he knew could over power him it made him feel even more vulnerable and so cross.

I bet there are other red flag incidents too if you think about it.

Absentmindedsmile · 10/08/2025 14:21

So quite a few things going on, triggered by a seemingly relatively flippant (to most) phrase.

It sounds (to me), that your dad has significant issues with himself. He’s getting older and losing his power and control. He may be losing bits of his mind - it sounds like he’s most definitely afraid of that. That’s why when I saw you wrote

’There is absolutely no way he would go to the doctors. The bit that makes him angry now is that we were worried about his state of mind.’

.. alarm bells went off 🚨. He’s scared of himself and he scared others will see it.

It might be there’s nothing wrong, but there’s only one way to settle his mind and yours. He must get checked by medics. 💯.

justasking111 · 10/08/2025 14:21

Beachtastic · 10/08/2025 13:59

She says when he falls out with her and gives her the silent treatment he will just suddenly act like nothing has happened.

Oh dear, I'm afraid she is stuck in an abusive relationship and you just witnessed what she may have coped with silently for years.

I thought this. Mum masking his day to day behaviour this has been going on for a while I suspect.

Stay away from him you're agitating him and your mum will get the fallout. Support your mum as best you can without stirring him up. She's not ready to talk about it yet.

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 14:23

2 possibilities strike me

  1. He is not well
  1. This was the final straw to him, not the one off dismissal it was from your point of view
HelpMeGetThrough · 10/08/2025 14:25

The way you talk about this man it’s like he’s some kind of god. Profusely apologising? Why, you should have just let the silly old bugger go without the drama, would have taken the wind out of his sails.

My mother is one for a bit of drama and a row and it used to be a yearly thing, until I turned on her in a really big way and now it doesn’t happen, she’s certainly bloody wary of pissing me off.

It may sound harsh, but over the last couple of years I have got into a mindset of “fuck these people, who do they think they are”. It’s made a big difference.

mcmooberry · 10/08/2025 14:25

I think you've done all you can to fix it, I would stay away and see your mum outside the house with your DC. He is now doubling down. You both behaved rudely in the initial encounter, you have acknowledged that, he is just being stubborn and ridiculous, his loss ultimately.

DoRayMeMeMe · 10/08/2025 14:25

BrentfordForever · 10/08/2025 14:17

Cause you don’t talk to a grown man like this

if anyone did this to me I’d tell them to fuck right off, that poor man just tried to get away from that crazy drama!!

very likely it’s built up as well, he’s had enough!

He’s not a grown man though, is he? He’s a nasty mixture of a giant toddler and massive windbag.

As for him shouting at Mummy to pack his bag, imagine being that old and feeling so fucking entitled to say that. What happened to please and Thank You.

We’re all getting older, and part of being an adult is managing the changes that comes with that. He obviously cannot cope, perhaps due to illness, but maybe it is just due to his shit personality, and immature character.

You obviously feel a level of empathy with him, and that’s kind of you. But he’s a dickhead, who got into a mess of his own making, so I’d be using him as an example of what Not to grow into.

ArabellaScott · 10/08/2025 14:27

Beachtastic · 10/08/2025 13:59

She says when he falls out with her and gives her the silent treatment he will just suddenly act like nothing has happened.

Oh dear, I'm afraid she is stuck in an abusive relationship and you just witnessed what she may have coped with silently for years.

Exactly the sentence I highlighted, and exactly what I was going to say.

OP, I'm so very sorry. This must be horrible for you and all your family.

It's not you. It's him. Can you still talk to your mum freely? Is she okay?

FumingTRex · 10/08/2025 14:27

You havent done anything wrong. He undermined your parenting and you made a quick remark. These things happen in families. Dont let him play divide and rule within your family though. If he is giving you the silent treatment i wouldnt be driving your kids over to him. What is it showing them? Just invite your mum to yours. Let him know hes welcome if he wants to treat you with respect .

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