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Therapy session 2 and feeling more insecure with fiance

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togo1004 · 01/08/2025 03:06

Finished session 2 with therapy. She addressed why my vision might become blurry when I’m stressed. She thinks that my brain doesn’t want me to see something and that stress is the trigger for it.

we dove deeper into my childhood trauma and talked more about myself. We have not reached diagnosis stage as we have a wide arrange of things to cover.

im currently traveling in China with my fiancé. We’ve already gotten into a few arguments but nothing major I see a big improvement already. I’d like your feedback on what the issue is, If it’s indeed my problem again and how I can address it better next time.

i know I don’t have the best diet. He’s been reminding me to drink water this entire time and I have a hard time drinking water if it’s not cold and when I’m full. We went out to get coffee and I suddenly got dizzy and passed out. I woke up a few seconds later and he shoved a bunch of candy in my mouth and forced me to eat it. I felt better in about 5 minutes and he carried me back to our hotel.

he looked so worried and he started telling me that he suspects I might be either diabetic and has hypoglycemia or have extremely low blood pressure. Either way it’s not good. Then he went on about how I really need to stop eating fried food and sugary things and focus on hydration and getting minerals in my body. I got so annoyed and got loud and said that I’ve been this way my whole life and it’s perfectly normal.

then he started listing things and saying things like “passing out in the middle of the street is normal?”
he went on about how I’m always tired, always have a headache, has mental disorders and thinks it’s largely contributed by my diet and life style. He went on about how he’s never seen me eat a salad or vegetables or fruit. He said “you can’t just live on pasta and fried food and soda”

He said that I’m likely malnutritioned and dehydrated for years and that unless I change it’s going to destroy my body. Ive felt so violated that I started crying. Now im just exhausted and want to go home.

i told him to stop commenting on how i eat because ill likely develop bulimia because of his comments. He literally told me that if I don’t change my life style he’s going to call off the marriage because he says “I will not marry someone who doesn’t prioritize health”. I told him that he cannot control me as it’s my body and it’s my choice on how I eat and live.

that evening I tried to make love to him and he turned me down saying that I’m not well and he thinks I might pass out during sex. I felt like he just didn’t want me at all..felt so rejected. He said that I’m still cold sweating looks pale and that I should really stop eating fried noodles and eat some salad and drink 2 liters of water today and do this everyday and he just went to sleep.

I know I’m not diabetic from tests a while
back but I did take blood pressure the next morning at a pharmacy near by and my bp came back hypotension.

we were ok that day went to pool but he won’t touch me the way he used to and I’m feeling insecure.

did i handle this ok? It didn’t escalate into a big fight but was thinking it’s my body my choice the right thing to say in this point? His point is that it’s selfish because he’s the one responsible for medical bills for us and that I should be taking care of my health for both of us as he does the same.

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togo1004 · 02/08/2025 11:00

McSpoot · 02/08/2025 10:43

Well, everything you've posted here between you and your fiancé, yes, has been your fault.

Even today - you dragged him out despite him being sick but, if you were to "feel acid" then you'd expect him to give up a walk that he might want. Do you really not see how much of a hypocrite you are?

I’m not a hypocrite. I didn’t know that day he couldn’t breathe. That’s all if I knew then I women’s have said that.

he also had an attitude that day.

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McSpoot · 02/08/2025 11:08

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 11:00

I’m not a hypocrite. I didn’t know that day he couldn’t breathe. That’s all if I knew then I women’s have said that.

he also had an attitude that day.

And today?

Crazymayfly · 02/08/2025 11:12

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 11:00

I’m not a hypocrite. I didn’t know that day he couldn’t breathe. That’s all if I knew then I women’s have said that.

he also had an attitude that day.

Look at the last line of that post. I mean look at it, read it, take it in.

And as for covering your health expenses - if you have free health care at home then go there and use it.

He shouldn’t have to pay expensive fees for your care when you know what issues are and they’re self inflicted.

He’s probably hoping you go home and don’t come back. I would be, in his position.

anytipswelcome · 02/08/2025 11:23

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 10:54

It’s not chatgpt it’s an actual therapist.

there are faults with him. He knows that I do not use free national health care in Russia and currently don’t have insurance in his country. He knows that I’m weak and have fainting problems but he still asked me to go home back to my mothers house before because he had to leave to USA to take care of some business for a while.

why would he do that? That’s why I can’t get better. I want to get treated in his country but it’s expensive.

all he ever tells me is to download an app to track my fluid intake, and eat veggies and more food. I don’t wanna hear that crap. It’s annoying and it makes me feel worse mentally.

fainting is pretty normal for people with low blood pressure. And all he can tell me is that dehydration causes low blood pressure. It’s too much to hear all the time. I just want him to care for me without recommendations and advices. How hard is that?

How hard is it to care for someone who won’t do anything to make themselves healthier and is also abusing you on a daily basis having successfully isolated you from your support system?

Pretty hard, I’d imagine.

This poor man.

CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 11:57

@togo1004 who pays for this shit show of I presume unqualified therapist?

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 13:43

anytipswelcome · 02/08/2025 11:23

How hard is it to care for someone who won’t do anything to make themselves healthier and is also abusing you on a daily basis having successfully isolated you from your support system?

Pretty hard, I’d imagine.

This poor man.

I’m trying and you’re stepping on my efforts

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togo1004 · 02/08/2025 13:58

Crazymayfly · 02/08/2025 11:12

Look at the last line of that post. I mean look at it, read it, take it in.

And as for covering your health expenses - if you have free health care at home then go there and use it.

He shouldn’t have to pay expensive fees for your care when you know what issues are and they’re self inflicted.

He’s probably hoping you go home and don’t come back. I would be, in his position.

I don’t use it because it’s bad and has a long wait list. I’m waiting for him to make more money so he can help me get a total health checkup. I already told him that it’s a priority when we make more money.

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CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 14:03

By 'we' you mean him, since his money is joint and yours is yours?
Also think you're on a wind up now with the 'he had an attitude' comment. Classic abuser talk.
Re your 'faints' are they full on lack of control pee yourself, smash face faints... or swoons?

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 02/08/2025 14:04

I’m waiting for him to make more money so he can help me get a total health checkup.

I forget why you say you don’t work, but you cannot wait around for him to make more money to enable you to sort out your issues. You need to either utilise the free healthcare you have access to back in your home country, or find a way to afford it by yourself. This man is not your personal ATM! If/when he realises his life would be much less dramatic without you, and ends the relationship, you are going to find yourself in a very difficult situation!

And you CANNOT tell him what to prioritise with his money!

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 02/08/2025 14:09

CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 14:03

By 'we' you mean him, since his money is joint and yours is yours?
Also think you're on a wind up now with the 'he had an attitude' comment. Classic abuser talk.
Re your 'faints' are they full on lack of control pee yourself, smash face faints... or swoons?

I Love Flirting GIF

In Bridgerton words... The Art of the Swoon...

SoScarletItWas · 02/08/2025 14:11

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 02/08/2025 14:04

I’m waiting for him to make more money so he can help me get a total health checkup.

I forget why you say you don’t work, but you cannot wait around for him to make more money to enable you to sort out your issues. You need to either utilise the free healthcare you have access to back in your home country, or find a way to afford it by yourself. This man is not your personal ATM! If/when he realises his life would be much less dramatic without you, and ends the relationship, you are going to find yourself in a very difficult situation!

And you CANNOT tell him what to prioritise with his money!

She does work, apparently she’s a programmer, but all her money is paying off her debts.

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 02/08/2025 14:14

SoScarletItWas · 02/08/2025 14:11

She does work, apparently she’s a programmer, but all her money is paying off her debts.

Oh yeah, that’s it. I dread to think how much debt is having to be paid off if she cannot use even a little of her income to contribute to any living expenses.

Ok then, @togo1004 why can’t you earn more money and prioritise healthcare?

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 02/08/2025 14:16

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 02/08/2025 14:09

In Bridgerton words... The Art of the Swoon...

Faint Dying GIF by NETFLIX

This is the one I was looking for...

CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 14:16

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 02/08/2025 14:09

In Bridgerton words... The Art of the Swoon...

Taylor Swift Mtv Vmas 2017 GIF by 2020 MTV Video Music Awards

Precisely! The Art of dramatic attention affect..

Crazymayfly · 02/08/2025 14:32

CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 14:03

By 'we' you mean him, since his money is joint and yours is yours?
Also think you're on a wind up now with the 'he had an attitude' comment. Classic abuser talk.
Re your 'faints' are they full on lack of control pee yourself, smash face faints... or swoons?

I’d imagine they’re back of the hand against the forehead and “oh goodness! I feel a little woozy” then a dramatic gentle non harm inducing graceful slide to the floor.

Edit to say I see others got there before me and were pretty much on the same page.

SoScarletItWas · 02/08/2025 14:51

Crazymayfly · 02/08/2025 14:32

I’d imagine they’re back of the hand against the forehead and “oh goodness! I feel a little woozy” then a dramatic gentle non harm inducing graceful slide to the floor.

Edit to say I see others got there before me and were pretty much on the same page.

Edited

And then she needs to be carried home.

I think OP wishes she was still a child.

I’m not joking when I say this. She asks DP ‘hey can you find my hotel key’; she blames him for her emotional reactions; she needs to be reassured all the bloody time; she hates him going out without her; and don’t get me started on her diet.

I genuinely believe there is something of that type going on.

CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 14:58

And the crowd all silent in awe....

Therapy session 2 and feeling more insecure with fiance
Uricon2 · 02/08/2025 15:13

Given how little insight you have, how totally unreasonable and exasperating you appear to virtually everyone on your many repetitive threads, how your thought processes and actions resemble those of a selfish toddler, I can only assume your partner is either some kind of saint or a total masochist.

Nothing you have said about him, with your own words, is convincing anyone that he is the problem. The problem is you. The adult thing to do would be to get yourself back to Russia and stop freeloading on a man you treat abominably, but you don't see that as an option. It may be the only one you're left with soon and it hopefully will be the wake up call you desperately need.

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 15:18

CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 14:03

By 'we' you mean him, since his money is joint and yours is yours?
Also think you're on a wind up now with the 'he had an attitude' comment. Classic abuser talk.
Re your 'faints' are they full on lack of control pee yourself, smash face faints... or swoons?

I get dizzy and faint. It’s been happening since I’m 12. I have low blood pressure and arythmia so if I run out of breath I will feint. It’s why I’m careful with exercise

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togo1004 · 02/08/2025 15:20

Uricon2 · 02/08/2025 15:13

Given how little insight you have, how totally unreasonable and exasperating you appear to virtually everyone on your many repetitive threads, how your thought processes and actions resemble those of a selfish toddler, I can only assume your partner is either some kind of saint or a total masochist.

Nothing you have said about him, with your own words, is convincing anyone that he is the problem. The problem is you. The adult thing to do would be to get yourself back to Russia and stop freeloading on a man you treat abominably, but you don't see that as an option. It may be the only one you're left with soon and it hopefully will be the wake up call you desperately need.

I understand I have issues but I’m saying that he’s also wrong because he is. I’m also trying to get him into therapy for his ways

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SoScarletItWas · 02/08/2025 15:22

Good lord, he doesn’t need therapy ’for his ways’! Literally nothing you have posted suggests he does anything but pander to you and try and look after you.

anytipswelcome · 02/08/2025 15:24

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 15:20

I understand I have issues but I’m saying that he’s also wrong because he is. I’m also trying to get him into therapy for his ways

I really, really hope he goes to therapy and I hope he tells the therapist that his partner:

  • Listens to him talking to himself in private in the shower by pressing her ear against the door, then berates him for the ‘tone’ he was using when talking to himself
  • Isolated him from friends, church and volunteering for at least six months saying she couldn’t cope if he went and at times ‘collapsing’ when he did
  • Slapped him across the face in anger
  • Doesn’t contribute financially within the relationship despite having a job, in order to pay off debts unrelated to him from before they met
  • Says she will ‘die’ if they split up aka threatening self harm to control him

And I hope the therapist tells him he is being abused. And that they help him escape your abuse.

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 02/08/2025 15:26

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 15:20

I understand I have issues but I’m saying that he’s also wrong because he is. I’m also trying to get him into therapy for his ways

Maybe it would help if you outlined exactly what issues you think he has? Your example of the key argument has already been pointed out as you trying to make something out of nothing and from what I can tell, his comments about water intake and food habits come from concern rather than control. I know my immediate response to my dh complaining of a headache (slightly different to fainting but similar idea) is has he drunk enough water during the day.

Uricon2 · 02/08/2025 15:26

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 15:20

I understand I have issues but I’m saying that he’s also wrong because he is. I’m also trying to get him into therapy for his ways

He needs therapy to help him understand why he is persevering with a relationship that is so destructive to him.

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 02/08/2025 15:42

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 15:20

I understand I have issues but I’m saying that he’s also wrong because he is. I’m also trying to get him into therapy for his ways

HE IS NOT WRONG!

I'm not saying never, but not in any of your posts I've read on here. You torment him. I really hope for his own sake he dumps you, and that you get the help you need.