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Therapy session 2 and feeling more insecure with fiance

387 replies

togo1004 · 01/08/2025 03:06

Finished session 2 with therapy. She addressed why my vision might become blurry when I’m stressed. She thinks that my brain doesn’t want me to see something and that stress is the trigger for it.

we dove deeper into my childhood trauma and talked more about myself. We have not reached diagnosis stage as we have a wide arrange of things to cover.

im currently traveling in China with my fiancé. We’ve already gotten into a few arguments but nothing major I see a big improvement already. I’d like your feedback on what the issue is, If it’s indeed my problem again and how I can address it better next time.

i know I don’t have the best diet. He’s been reminding me to drink water this entire time and I have a hard time drinking water if it’s not cold and when I’m full. We went out to get coffee and I suddenly got dizzy and passed out. I woke up a few seconds later and he shoved a bunch of candy in my mouth and forced me to eat it. I felt better in about 5 minutes and he carried me back to our hotel.

he looked so worried and he started telling me that he suspects I might be either diabetic and has hypoglycemia or have extremely low blood pressure. Either way it’s not good. Then he went on about how I really need to stop eating fried food and sugary things and focus on hydration and getting minerals in my body. I got so annoyed and got loud and said that I’ve been this way my whole life and it’s perfectly normal.

then he started listing things and saying things like “passing out in the middle of the street is normal?”
he went on about how I’m always tired, always have a headache, has mental disorders and thinks it’s largely contributed by my diet and life style. He went on about how he’s never seen me eat a salad or vegetables or fruit. He said “you can’t just live on pasta and fried food and soda”

He said that I’m likely malnutritioned and dehydrated for years and that unless I change it’s going to destroy my body. Ive felt so violated that I started crying. Now im just exhausted and want to go home.

i told him to stop commenting on how i eat because ill likely develop bulimia because of his comments. He literally told me that if I don’t change my life style he’s going to call off the marriage because he says “I will not marry someone who doesn’t prioritize health”. I told him that he cannot control me as it’s my body and it’s my choice on how I eat and live.

that evening I tried to make love to him and he turned me down saying that I’m not well and he thinks I might pass out during sex. I felt like he just didn’t want me at all..felt so rejected. He said that I’m still cold sweating looks pale and that I should really stop eating fried noodles and eat some salad and drink 2 liters of water today and do this everyday and he just went to sleep.

I know I’m not diabetic from tests a while
back but I did take blood pressure the next morning at a pharmacy near by and my bp came back hypotension.

we were ok that day went to pool but he won’t touch me the way he used to and I’m feeling insecure.

did i handle this ok? It didn’t escalate into a big fight but was thinking it’s my body my choice the right thing to say in this point? His point is that it’s selfish because he’s the one responsible for medical bills for us and that I should be taking care of my health for both of us as he does the same.

OP posts:
CaptainFuture · 02/08/2025 16:26

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 15:20

I understand I have issues but I’m saying that he’s also wrong because he is. I’m also trying to get him into therapy for his ways

stephen king pain GIF

If this isn't bullshit, that comment gave me chills and Anne from Misery vibes...

Crazymayfly · 02/08/2025 17:58

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 15:20

I understand I have issues but I’m saying that he’s also wrong because he is. I’m also trying to get him into therapy for his ways

Oh dear, he only needs therapy for putting up with such shoddy treatment from a partner. He doesn’t have much self worth. One day he will find that - he will have a lovely calm kind and caring woman who will show him what’s real love is like and I do hope he will fuck straight off with her and start a family.

Then you’ll be back crying that he’s an awful person who behaved appallingly towards you and probably claim he’s a narcissist,

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 22:50

His emotional intelligence is low he even admitted that. He said that he doesn’t know why he upsets me all of the time and that he’s sorry.

i told him making comments about my diet makes me upset and it’s controlling but he does it all of the time.

imagine someone telling you daily to drink water and please cut down on sugar. This is also very abusive.

imagine someone always talking in facts and not caring for emotions.

he also need therapy for these things

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Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 22:51

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 22:50

His emotional intelligence is low he even admitted that. He said that he doesn’t know why he upsets me all of the time and that he’s sorry.

i told him making comments about my diet makes me upset and it’s controlling but he does it all of the time.

imagine someone telling you daily to drink water and please cut down on sugar. This is also very abusive.

imagine someone always talking in facts and not caring for emotions.

he also need therapy for these things

that is not abusive

anytipswelcome · 02/08/2025 22:53

I think the best possible thing to happen to this poor guy is that he does indeed go to therapy. And they help him see he’s being abused in a variety of different ways.

Zanatdy · 02/08/2025 23:02

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 22:50

His emotional intelligence is low he even admitted that. He said that he doesn’t know why he upsets me all of the time and that he’s sorry.

i told him making comments about my diet makes me upset and it’s controlling but he does it all of the time.

imagine someone telling you daily to drink water and please cut down on sugar. This is also very abusive.

imagine someone always talking in facts and not caring for emotions.

he also need therapy for these things

How is this abusive? I don’t know your backstory, but reading on here, it seems that he is not the problem.

Coffeislife · 02/08/2025 23:20

You'd already lost him in your last thread, it's just going through the motions. You should be single and sort your issues out.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 02/08/2025 23:45

imagine someone telling you daily to drink water and please cut down on sugar.

I cannot believe he tells you to drink water and cut down on sugar. What an absolute bastard. You must leave him immediately!!! A definite LTB!!!

SunflowerTed · 03/08/2025 00:01

togo1004 · 01/08/2025 03:06

Finished session 2 with therapy. She addressed why my vision might become blurry when I’m stressed. She thinks that my brain doesn’t want me to see something and that stress is the trigger for it.

we dove deeper into my childhood trauma and talked more about myself. We have not reached diagnosis stage as we have a wide arrange of things to cover.

im currently traveling in China with my fiancé. We’ve already gotten into a few arguments but nothing major I see a big improvement already. I’d like your feedback on what the issue is, If it’s indeed my problem again and how I can address it better next time.

i know I don’t have the best diet. He’s been reminding me to drink water this entire time and I have a hard time drinking water if it’s not cold and when I’m full. We went out to get coffee and I suddenly got dizzy and passed out. I woke up a few seconds later and he shoved a bunch of candy in my mouth and forced me to eat it. I felt better in about 5 minutes and he carried me back to our hotel.

he looked so worried and he started telling me that he suspects I might be either diabetic and has hypoglycemia or have extremely low blood pressure. Either way it’s not good. Then he went on about how I really need to stop eating fried food and sugary things and focus on hydration and getting minerals in my body. I got so annoyed and got loud and said that I’ve been this way my whole life and it’s perfectly normal.

then he started listing things and saying things like “passing out in the middle of the street is normal?”
he went on about how I’m always tired, always have a headache, has mental disorders and thinks it’s largely contributed by my diet and life style. He went on about how he’s never seen me eat a salad or vegetables or fruit. He said “you can’t just live on pasta and fried food and soda”

He said that I’m likely malnutritioned and dehydrated for years and that unless I change it’s going to destroy my body. Ive felt so violated that I started crying. Now im just exhausted and want to go home.

i told him to stop commenting on how i eat because ill likely develop bulimia because of his comments. He literally told me that if I don’t change my life style he’s going to call off the marriage because he says “I will not marry someone who doesn’t prioritize health”. I told him that he cannot control me as it’s my body and it’s my choice on how I eat and live.

that evening I tried to make love to him and he turned me down saying that I’m not well and he thinks I might pass out during sex. I felt like he just didn’t want me at all..felt so rejected. He said that I’m still cold sweating looks pale and that I should really stop eating fried noodles and eat some salad and drink 2 liters of water today and do this everyday and he just went to sleep.

I know I’m not diabetic from tests a while
back but I did take blood pressure the next morning at a pharmacy near by and my bp came back hypotension.

we were ok that day went to pool but he won’t touch me the way he used to and I’m feeling insecure.

did i handle this ok? It didn’t escalate into a big fight but was thinking it’s my body my choice the right thing to say in this point? His point is that it’s selfish because he’s the one responsible for medical bills for us and that I should be taking care of my health for both of us as he does the same.

I hope you get the attention you so desperately need. Must be quite exhausting being you

Furrylittlesweetpotatoes · 03/08/2025 00:05

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 22:50

His emotional intelligence is low he even admitted that. He said that he doesn’t know why he upsets me all of the time and that he’s sorry.

i told him making comments about my diet makes me upset and it’s controlling but he does it all of the time.

imagine someone telling you daily to drink water and please cut down on sugar. This is also very abusive.

imagine someone always talking in facts and not caring for emotions.

he also need therapy for these things

None of this is abusive. He sounds lovely and caring.

You are abusive and utterly unsafe as a partner.

togo1004 · 03/08/2025 05:20

Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 22:51

that is not abusive

How?? I’m borderline about to develop bulimia because of his comments. It’s extremely triggering.

its an absolute abuse to comment on someone’s dietary choices and give them eating disorders

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Ponderingwindow · 03/08/2025 05:35

If you think he is abusing you then break up with him when this trip is over. You shouldn’t stay with someone who negatively impacts your mental health.

NormaNormalPants · 03/08/2025 05:36

togo1004 · 03/08/2025 05:20

How?? I’m borderline about to develop bulimia because of his comments. It’s extremely triggering.

its an absolute abuse to comment on someone’s dietary choices and give them eating disorders

You need to stop blaming him for everything and take some accountability. It is absolutely not abusive to tell someone that having 10 tablespoons (!!!) of sugar in their coffee is incredibly bad for them, or that keeping hydrated might help stop you from feeling dizzy/fainting. I’d argue trying to encourage a loved one to eat healthier when you can see their unhealthy habits are making them unwell is an act of love. Lord knows he wouldn’t be sticking around for this nonsense otherwise!

I feel incredibly sorry for your DP. It’s awful you’ve gaslit him so much so that he’s blaming low emotional intelligence for the reason you’re always upset, when in reality your reactions are largely disproportionate and seem wholly focused on some perceived “win” rather than you actually doing something to get your relationship back on track. Hopefully he sees the light soon, as this relationship is so incredibly unhealthy.

togo1004 · 03/08/2025 05:47

NormaNormalPants · 03/08/2025 05:36

You need to stop blaming him for everything and take some accountability. It is absolutely not abusive to tell someone that having 10 tablespoons (!!!) of sugar in their coffee is incredibly bad for them, or that keeping hydrated might help stop you from feeling dizzy/fainting. I’d argue trying to encourage a loved one to eat healthier when you can see their unhealthy habits are making them unwell is an act of love. Lord knows he wouldn’t be sticking around for this nonsense otherwise!

I feel incredibly sorry for your DP. It’s awful you’ve gaslit him so much so that he’s blaming low emotional intelligence for the reason you’re always upset, when in reality your reactions are largely disproportionate and seem wholly focused on some perceived “win” rather than you actually doing something to get your relationship back on track. Hopefully he sees the light soon, as this relationship is so incredibly unhealthy.

Are you saying that I’m developing bulimia myself? I only feel like it’s getting worse when he tries to stop me from eating sweets.

he has an issue with me smoking, drinking, eating what I want? Then how will I ever be happy??

he’s using sex as a weapon against me by telling me “your breath smells like cigarettes” and doesn’t want to kiss me.

or makes me feel bad by saying things like “you just passed out and now you’re smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer?” It’s passive aggressive manipulation.

he will end up single acting like this.

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BuckChuckets · 03/08/2025 05:55

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 10:15

Ok so it’s my fault again. Everything is my fault and I can never win ever.

Here comes the victim mentality again. You need serious professional help and you need to let the poor guy go, so he can be happy.

SoScarletItWas · 03/08/2025 06:31

togo1004 · 03/08/2025 05:47

Are you saying that I’m developing bulimia myself? I only feel like it’s getting worse when he tries to stop me from eating sweets.

he has an issue with me smoking, drinking, eating what I want? Then how will I ever be happy??

he’s using sex as a weapon against me by telling me “your breath smells like cigarettes” and doesn’t want to kiss me.

or makes me feel bad by saying things like “you just passed out and now you’re smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer?” It’s passive aggressive manipulation.

he will end up single acting like this.

If you smoke, your breath WILL be vile. He won’t want to kiss you. That’s not abusive.

If you choose to eat the sweets, ice cream, pizza, then threaten to throw them up when he says you should eat something healthy, that’s beyond emotional manipulation (on your part) and YOUR CHOICE as a bizarre ‘told you so’ to ‘prove him wrong’.

If you faint then smoke and drink alcohol, that is categorically a stupid thing to do and he’s correct to point that out to you.

He should end up single. This is a horrible relationship.

Nagginthenag · 03/08/2025 06:56

togo1004 · 03/08/2025 05:47

Are you saying that I’m developing bulimia myself? I only feel like it’s getting worse when he tries to stop me from eating sweets.

he has an issue with me smoking, drinking, eating what I want? Then how will I ever be happy??

he’s using sex as a weapon against me by telling me “your breath smells like cigarettes” and doesn’t want to kiss me.

or makes me feel bad by saying things like “you just passed out and now you’re smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer?” It’s passive aggressive manipulation.

he will end up single acting like this.

So if he's so awful and makes you feel awful, why don't you leave him? As for him ending up single because of his his behaviour 🙄, I hope for the poor blokes sake, your prediction comes to pass. If he was on Mumsnet everyone would be telling him to run for the hills as fast as he could.

I really hope you're a troll.

TorroFerney · 03/08/2025 07:00

togo1004 · 01/08/2025 05:29

How is it a blackmail when I feel like I’ll develop bulimia if I don’t fulfill my emotional hunger. If I crave ice cream I need to eat it or I’ll binge eat on something similar.

snd he always tries to offer fruit instead of ice cream and it’s extremely annoying and controlling

Has your therapist not explained that feelings aren’t facts?!

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 07:25

togo1004 · 03/08/2025 05:20

How?? I’m borderline about to develop bulimia because of his comments. It’s extremely triggering.

its an absolute abuse to comment on someone’s dietary choices and give them eating disorders

To me it sounds more like you are the one abusing him, can't you see what you are doing is emotional manipulation and blackmail? Your diet is extremely poor and you are not taking any responsibility for it - your poor diet is going to kill you before bulimia does! His comments are just normal and adult.

I'm really sorry you are so unhappy. I honestly think you would both be a lot happier apart. he would get relief from worrying about you all the time, and you could stop reacting to and blaming another person constantly for your own issues, and start to work on resolving them in your own time and space.

Good luck

Calliecarpa · 03/08/2025 07:36

he will end up single acting like this.

Having read all of this thread and a couple of the OP's previous threads, I really, really, really hope that the poor bloke does indeed end up single. Assuming that OP isn't a troll, her behaviour towards him is appalling, and I hope that one day very soon he comes to his senses, before the damage she inflicts on him is too great.

Shortbread49 · 03/08/2025 07:48

Do you have any brain cells or ability to self reflect as someone else cannot give you an eating disorder

Uricon2 · 03/08/2025 08:41

imagine someone telling you daily to drink water and please cut down on sugar. This is also very abusive.

What is it, 10-12 TABLESPOONS of sugar in a cup of coffee? Absolutely abnormal. Not drinking enough water, especially in a hot climate in summer and constantly "fainting"? What a surprise.

You clearly had disordered eating before you met him and still have it. His mistake is not leaving you to get on with it and I can only imagine there is some extremely unhealthy "bond" around your neediness and self infantilisation. Stop blaming him for your issues and get proper help.

Booyaka619 · 03/08/2025 08:45

togo1004 · 02/08/2025 22:50

His emotional intelligence is low he even admitted that. He said that he doesn’t know why he upsets me all of the time and that he’s sorry.

i told him making comments about my diet makes me upset and it’s controlling but he does it all of the time.

imagine someone telling you daily to drink water and please cut down on sugar. This is also very abusive.

imagine someone always talking in facts and not caring for emotions.

he also need therapy for these things

imagine someone telling you daily to drink water and please cut down on sugar. This is also very abusive.

Poor guy could be feeding you grapes and fanning you with a palm leaf and you’d still find some way to kick off about how this is ‘abusive’ behaviour.

Calliecarpa · 03/08/2025 08:58

togo1004 · 03/08/2025 05:20

How?? I’m borderline about to develop bulimia because of his comments. It’s extremely triggering.

its an absolute abuse to comment on someone’s dietary choices and give them eating disorders

Why are you with this guy you claim is abusing you and manipulating you and who you think is triggering you into developing an eating disorder? If he's that awful, why don't you just leave him?

NormaNormalPants · 03/08/2025 09:43

Kindly no one can give you an eating disorder, and frankly from what you’ve said on here and previous threads I’d argue you had disordered eating long before your DP was on the scene.

Blaming him for your disordered eating is emotionally manipulative. Unfortunately this will likely fall on deaf ears, as has much of the advice to date. I do have to wonder though, if your DP is as awful and abusive as you say why on earth are you staying in the relationship?