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Therapy session 2 and feeling more insecure with fiance

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togo1004 · 01/08/2025 03:06

Finished session 2 with therapy. She addressed why my vision might become blurry when I’m stressed. She thinks that my brain doesn’t want me to see something and that stress is the trigger for it.

we dove deeper into my childhood trauma and talked more about myself. We have not reached diagnosis stage as we have a wide arrange of things to cover.

im currently traveling in China with my fiancé. We’ve already gotten into a few arguments but nothing major I see a big improvement already. I’d like your feedback on what the issue is, If it’s indeed my problem again and how I can address it better next time.

i know I don’t have the best diet. He’s been reminding me to drink water this entire time and I have a hard time drinking water if it’s not cold and when I’m full. We went out to get coffee and I suddenly got dizzy and passed out. I woke up a few seconds later and he shoved a bunch of candy in my mouth and forced me to eat it. I felt better in about 5 minutes and he carried me back to our hotel.

he looked so worried and he started telling me that he suspects I might be either diabetic and has hypoglycemia or have extremely low blood pressure. Either way it’s not good. Then he went on about how I really need to stop eating fried food and sugary things and focus on hydration and getting minerals in my body. I got so annoyed and got loud and said that I’ve been this way my whole life and it’s perfectly normal.

then he started listing things and saying things like “passing out in the middle of the street is normal?”
he went on about how I’m always tired, always have a headache, has mental disorders and thinks it’s largely contributed by my diet and life style. He went on about how he’s never seen me eat a salad or vegetables or fruit. He said “you can’t just live on pasta and fried food and soda”

He said that I’m likely malnutritioned and dehydrated for years and that unless I change it’s going to destroy my body. Ive felt so violated that I started crying. Now im just exhausted and want to go home.

i told him to stop commenting on how i eat because ill likely develop bulimia because of his comments. He literally told me that if I don’t change my life style he’s going to call off the marriage because he says “I will not marry someone who doesn’t prioritize health”. I told him that he cannot control me as it’s my body and it’s my choice on how I eat and live.

that evening I tried to make love to him and he turned me down saying that I’m not well and he thinks I might pass out during sex. I felt like he just didn’t want me at all..felt so rejected. He said that I’m still cold sweating looks pale and that I should really stop eating fried noodles and eat some salad and drink 2 liters of water today and do this everyday and he just went to sleep.

I know I’m not diabetic from tests a while
back but I did take blood pressure the next morning at a pharmacy near by and my bp came back hypotension.

we were ok that day went to pool but he won’t touch me the way he used to and I’m feeling insecure.

did i handle this ok? It didn’t escalate into a big fight but was thinking it’s my body my choice the right thing to say in this point? His point is that it’s selfish because he’s the one responsible for medical bills for us and that I should be taking care of my health for both of us as he does the same.

OP posts:
carmak · 06/08/2025 08:03

I think you are good looking OP, that's why people are initially attracted to you.

Unfortunately, they can't cope with your personality long term.

Shortbread49 · 06/08/2025 08:03

Blimey he has left you, are you ever going to stop over analysing him will there be a new thread soon, You need to learn when to stop , if you went to university at 16 I would you hope you have some intelligence and common sense

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 06/08/2025 08:04

SIM cards give me ability to use data and make/receive calls...

Ok to rephrase PP's question... what's your obsession with other people getting SIM cards for you? Why can't you buy your own?

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:05

PsychoHotSauce · 06/08/2025 08:03

which traumatized me severely

No it didn't. It hurt your feelings. That's all. At most it touched a nerve because you know the things he was saying are true.

No it causes severe trauma which gives me frequent panic attacks. The other girl was from Vietnam and if I see Vietnamese flag or even hear the word Vietnam I get flashbacks and get a panic attack. You have no idea how much that hurt me, and it haunted me through out the relationship and it broke my trust forever in him.

OP posts:
togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:07

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 06/08/2025 08:04

SIM cards give me ability to use data and make/receive calls...

Ok to rephrase PP's question... what's your obsession with other people getting SIM cards for you? Why can't you buy your own?

Because it’s hard for me to talk to people. I can barely goto store and buy food unless I wear sunglasses and a hat and can’t make eye contact.

it gives me anxiety through the roof if I have to interact with strangers. It’s why I rely on others to do it for me.

OP posts:
Lemniscate8 · 06/08/2025 08:09

Obviously, noone can make any sort of diagnosis over the internet, but I do wonder if it is worth you getting an assessment for autism, just to rule it out, maybe

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 06/08/2025 08:12

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:05

No it causes severe trauma which gives me frequent panic attacks. The other girl was from Vietnam and if I see Vietnamese flag or even hear the word Vietnam I get flashbacks and get a panic attack. You have no idea how much that hurt me, and it haunted me through out the relationship and it broke my trust forever in him.

This really isn’t normally OP… most people would have been a bit pissed that their boyfriend compared them unfavourably to someone else, but to have panic attacks just because you see the flag from their home country? You clearly have deeply ingrained issues that need unpicking, probably more than what a free therapist can offer. If this is all true, of course

PsychoHotSauce · 06/08/2025 08:23

WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 06/08/2025 08:12

This really isn’t normally OP… most people would have been a bit pissed that their boyfriend compared them unfavourably to someone else, but to have panic attacks just because you see the flag from their home country? You clearly have deeply ingrained issues that need unpicking, probably more than what a free therapist can offer. If this is all true, of course

Well if it were true, surely she wouldn't be able to type Vietnam and hit post without having a panic attack. According to OP she can't even hear the country's name in passing without having a meltdown, but she can consciously and deliberately type it - twice - with no issue. It uses a hell of a lot more brain processing to answer me that to happen to see a flag in a random place, yet she managed just fine.

McSpoot · 06/08/2025 08:23

PsychoHotSauce · 06/08/2025 08:23

Well if it were true, surely she wouldn't be able to type Vietnam and hit post without having a panic attack. According to OP she can't even hear the country's name in passing without having a meltdown, but she can consciously and deliberately type it - twice - with no issue. It uses a hell of a lot more brain processing to answer me that to happen to see a flag in a random place, yet she managed just fine.

Three times :)

Booyaka619 · 06/08/2025 08:24

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:01

It’s because I work remote so I travel quite often. I have really bad social anxiety so I always have to ask other people to do things for me if it involves going to the store, calling a company or whatever.

SIM cards give me ability to use data and make/receive calls which I couldn’t do unless I had WiFi.

I only looked because I saw messages pop up and I was curious. I know that I shouldn’t have looked but I don’t think it’s as bad as him doubting me and comparing me to another woman, which traumatized me severely

I always have to ask other people to do things for me if it involves going to the store, calling a company or whatever.

SIM cards give me ability to use data and make/receive calls which I couldn’t do unless I had WiFi.

You don't go anywhere alone, or make calls. (Though didn’t you previously say you were always going to the store for your ex-fiance?)

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 06/08/2025 08:24

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:07

Because it’s hard for me to talk to people. I can barely goto store and buy food unless I wear sunglasses and a hat and can’t make eye contact.

it gives me anxiety through the roof if I have to interact with strangers. It’s why I rely on others to do it for me.

You need to work on yourself and not rely on others for everything.

You have said previously that you go to the shop to buy things for your ex-F, so you are clearly able to purchase stuff - so why not the SIM card?

You have a job so must have done an interview and must have to talk to people in work, how do you manage that?

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 06/08/2025 08:26

McSpoot · 06/08/2025 08:23

Three times :)

😁 🇻🇳 🇻🇳 🇻🇳

Uricon2 · 06/08/2025 08:31

Are you back in Russia @togo1004 ? I'm no expert but my understanding is that it is currently quite hard to access many Western sites from there and risky to use a VPN.

Contraryjane · 06/08/2025 08:33

OP just wants to be a trophy wife. Probably blonde and hanging on someone’s arm. Won’t get a job and nobody questions her. Expects to be fetched and carried (literally!) and to be given money to spend profligately.
Thing is, OP, this is largely a British forum. Generally most of us would hate that life.

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:33

Uricon2 · 06/08/2025 08:31

Are you back in Russia @togo1004 ? I'm no expert but my understanding is that it is currently quite hard to access many Western sites from there and risky to use a VPN.

Currently in lay over in China on a VPN.

OP posts:
Macaroni46 · 06/08/2025 08:34

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 02:33

He said he would help me if his business did more revenue and it didn’t. And he never found a solution to make sure money. So that’s on him. So I was forced to get a job when he knows I have severe panic attacks. I had to take multiple valiums just to have interview. When I confronted him his answer was “I never told you to take a loan, this is on you. I said I would help if my business did better but it didn’t, it’s actually done worse so I can’t help you. How I can help you is by givimg
yoj a place to stay and eat for free.” To his credit he financially supported me fully for a long time.

my best friend is selfish, she had no problems when I was paying for our Airbnb when we traveled, but when I asked her if she can ask her friend to help me get a SIM card she got annoyed and told me to never contact her again.

my ex husband, I do feel responsible because he was a nice man. But I had to be the leader in the relationship. I managed our banking, insurance and everything and it burned me out so badly also. I wanted him to make more and take lead.

my current fiancé was the total opposite. Very leader type of guy, and traditional. He was the type to open doors. Pull our chairs, take my coat off, and provide. But that came with extremely strong personality of “let me lead you follow” and made me feel small because he felt like he had the final say in every decision we had to make. We bumped heads so much because of this. And in the beginning he felt like I had to be in charge of taking care of the home, because I didn’t contribute financially. He manipulated me by saying things like “there’s 3 things that need to be done daily. Someone has to pay the bills for housing and food, food needs to be cooked, and place needs to be maintained. I will pay for our life, cook for myself a few times a day, and you will maintain the place and make dinner for us”. I felt soooo low like a maid. Eventually we got to an agreement that the person who’s not tired will just do the work because we are a team and we should support each other. And he grew bitter and bitter over time stopped hugging me touching me even telling me he loves me. On top of that he forced me to get a job because he failed to make more.

this is my life, just unfair all around.

No, your life is not unfair but you are incapable of seeing that. Time to carry your own bags, both literally and metaphorically.

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:35

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 06/08/2025 08:24

You need to work on yourself and not rely on others for everything.

You have said previously that you go to the shop to buy things for your ex-F, so you are clearly able to purchase stuff - so why not the SIM card?

You have a job so must have done an interview and must have to talk to people in work, how do you manage that?

It’s hard but doesn’t require talking. I just go and swipe card and leave.

once I have to talk the anxiety kicks in. I even had hard time dealing with courier before, it’s gotten better since then.

OP posts:
WellyBootsandPuddleSuits · 06/08/2025 08:37

PsychoHotSauce · 06/08/2025 08:23

Well if it were true, surely she wouldn't be able to type Vietnam and hit post without having a panic attack. According to OP she can't even hear the country's name in passing without having a meltdown, but she can consciously and deliberately type it - twice - with no issue. It uses a hell of a lot more brain processing to answer me that to happen to see a flag in a random place, yet she managed just fine.

Very true. It’s almost, almost, like the OP is making it up/exaggerating…

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:38

Contraryjane · 06/08/2025 08:33

OP just wants to be a trophy wife. Probably blonde and hanging on someone’s arm. Won’t get a job and nobody questions her. Expects to be fetched and carried (literally!) and to be given money to spend profligately.
Thing is, OP, this is largely a British forum. Generally most of us would hate that life.

I mean it would be nice but I don’t want to be useless. I tried dating traditional men, while it’s nice they take care financially, they also want to make most decisions. I can’t do that, I need to be also making decisions and would 50/50 power relationship. But no provider man will probably be ok with this

OP posts:
MrsColinRobinson · 06/08/2025 08:40

You have no problem continuing to talk to strangers throughout three tedious repetitive thread.

How on earth did you manage to travel the world and meet your fiance if you're so socially anxious.

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 06/08/2025 08:43

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:38

I mean it would be nice but I don’t want to be useless. I tried dating traditional men, while it’s nice they take care financially, they also want to make most decisions. I can’t do that, I need to be also making decisions and would 50/50 power relationship. But no provider man will probably be ok with this

So you want 50/50 of the power/decision making but 0% of the work, financial contributions - you can't have it every way.

Booyaka619 · 06/08/2025 08:50

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:38

I mean it would be nice but I don’t want to be useless. I tried dating traditional men, while it’s nice they take care financially, they also want to make most decisions. I can’t do that, I need to be also making decisions and would 50/50 power relationship. But no provider man will probably be ok with this

You don’t want to be useless, but:
You resent having to work to pay off your own debts or cover a share of bills/expenses
You won’t make phone calls
You won’t open the door to workmen or couriers
You need other people to go to the shop for you
You won’t clean because you’re ‘too tired’
You won’t arrange your own SIM card
You won’t remind your partner to get you a free SIM card
You don’t want to cook for yourself and your partner
You won’t ask for a pen when you need one

I’m sure there’s more that I’ve forgotten.
What does “not being useless” actually look like to you?

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 08:59

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 06/08/2025 08:43

So you want 50/50 of the power/decision making but 0% of the work, financial contributions - you can't have it every way.

But if we decide that 1 person will financially provide and 1 person will take care of home, shouldn't we have 50/50 power in relationship?

OP posts:
togo1004 · 06/08/2025 09:00

Booyaka619 · 06/08/2025 08:50

You don’t want to be useless, but:
You resent having to work to pay off your own debts or cover a share of bills/expenses
You won’t make phone calls
You won’t open the door to workmen or couriers
You need other people to go to the shop for you
You won’t clean because you’re ‘too tired’
You won’t arrange your own SIM card
You won’t remind your partner to get you a free SIM card
You don’t want to cook for yourself and your partner
You won’t ask for a pen when you need one

I’m sure there’s more that I’ve forgotten.
What does “not being useless” actually look like to you?

Well i'll give my future husband a baby, isn't that enough?

OP posts:
anytipswelcome · 06/08/2025 09:03

togo1004 · 06/08/2025 09:00

Well i'll give my future husband a baby, isn't that enough?

A baby isn’t a gift, it’s a living breathing human that requires parents to put it first.

You said on another thread that if your husband ever told you he would put your child before you, you would “break up with him tomorrow”.

I know he’s now broken up with you anyway but just FYI a decent man who would be a good father would always put his child first. So you need to either not have children at all or get some counselling to unravel why you feel that way.

Having a child and not wanting to prioritise it above yourself and your partner would be selfish and cruel.

You are nowhere near mature enough to be a parent.

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