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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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Mrsttcno1 · 15/07/2025 14:36

I’m really sorry you’re struggling OP, you really do need therapy and you need to stick at it.

You need to figure out why you accept this kind of behaviour, over and over again, so that you can ensure it never happens again. The first time someone treats you badly, you’re allowed to let them go. Read that again, remember it, implement it. You use words like love & feelings but from what you’ve written here it seems to me to be more infatuation than love, it’s not healthy.

YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:38

Mrsttcno1 · 15/07/2025 14:36

I’m really sorry you’re struggling OP, you really do need therapy and you need to stick at it.

You need to figure out why you accept this kind of behaviour, over and over again, so that you can ensure it never happens again. The first time someone treats you badly, you’re allowed to let them go. Read that again, remember it, implement it. You use words like love & feelings but from what you’ve written here it seems to me to be more infatuation than love, it’s not healthy.

Damn I knew I'd leave something out. I meant to add that if someone does treat me badly does that mean I deserve it? Am not good enough? Thank you for your advice and kind reply.

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Menopants · 15/07/2025 14:43

No if someone treats you badly it’s on them. You were clearly vulnerable and let it happen but that’s not your fault. Everyone deserves to be treated properly but some damaged individuals will identify people they can bully and mess with. Please do some work on your self esteem and boundaries. Take care

YesHonestly · 15/07/2025 14:43

This made me so sad to read OP.

You have done nothing wrong, you sound lovely. He is a nasty, manipulative prick. Nothing you say about him paints him in a good light. Normal, decent human beings would not treat anyone the way he has treated you.

His vile hot/cold behaviour has created a trauma bond, and the only way to break it is to have absolutely no contact with him. Please read up on trauma bonds and the cycle of abuse.

I would kindly suggest that you seek therapy to work through this and understand why you tolerated his behaviour for so long. You didn’t deserve that, and you need to be able to recognise red flags and walk away from them going forward.

It wasn’t you, it was him. I hope you are being kind to yourself x

StrawberryWater · 15/07/2025 14:44

Firstly, I agree with the other poster. Op you need therapy and look into a freedom program.

Secondly, it sounds like you has a lucky escape from this man. He sounds completely mental and off his rocker. Hes this deranged now, imagine how awful he’d be in a proper relationship. He has two ex wives for a reason and his kids don’t speak to him for a reason, he’s got a mile wide red flag. Stop speaking to him, even in the corridor and find somewhere else to work if you have to.

EverybodyLTB · 15/07/2025 14:49

He sounds like a sociopath and no you absolutely did not deserve any of this treatment. You didn’t do anything wrong to him, the person you’ve hurt is yourself. Keep at it with the therapy and seek enjoyment in other places and spaces. Look after your physical and mental health, practice mindfulness and get out into fresh air. Try a hobby you’ve always wanted to do. You have to sometimes fake it to make it, when you don’t feel good. Have a walk in the sun even when you feel awful, eat at least some fresh fruit and veg every day. Nurture yourself and keep up the therapy. Again, you didn’t deserve this ❤️

Bittenonce · 15/07/2025 14:55

it really genuinely isn’t you. This guy’s head is seriously messed up and he is - and maybe will always be - incapable of sustaining a proper relationship. He has been, objectively, a complete twat. He’s not able to regulate his emotions. But it is NOT you.
So please try not to put yourself down, or look for problems within yourself, you’re not the reason he’s like this. You’re a decent person who’s better than this, better than him. And at 49 you’ve got a lot of life and love left in you.

Ilovemychocolate · 15/07/2025 14:57

Christ what a monumental prick he sounds like!
Fuck him, let it go, build a lovely life for yourself and stick to fingers up to the self obsessed, narcissistic wanker!

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 15/07/2025 15:04

Firstly, a man who has no contact with his children is not a man you can have a relationship with. He’s an absolute tool. Doesn’t matter if he looks George Clooney and can pick girls up in bars. I repeat, he’s a tool.
Secondly, what I picked up from your writing is your immense need to be loved, and a huge capacity to be loving yourself. The second one is actually a wonderful trait. While this man is closed, and manipulative, you are have an open, loving nature.
You have clearly been in a vulnerable state and this man has picked up on that and used you for attention. You have settled for breadcrumbs from a stale piece of bread.
He is a symptom of a wider issue. You have hung your sense of self, how lovable you are, and your own wellbeing on what level of attention this man has given you.
It is no way to live.
The wider issue is your self esteem and that is something you can work on. 49 is not old, lovely. But to move forwards in any way you are going to have to get some help.
It may seem a cliche, these issues tend to stem from our childhood. So he’s just a cherry on top of a shit cake.
You are a person in your own right and you weren’t born to sit in a room, life in tatters because some arsehole messed with your head.
Counselling will help you so much.
Finding something, one thing, to do outside of work where you meet other people will change your life.
There is a whole world out there waiting to welcome you.
Forget about any kind of dating for a while, you are far too vulnerable.
You need friends, people who you like, who like you, doing things you enjoy - it’s the absolute key thing to getting better.
The man will continue to be a mess. He will continue to hurt people.
You will find in time you didn’t love him at all. He just felt like a solution to something.
It is time for you to find your own answers and it’s a brave step to take.

Cannongoose · 15/07/2025 15:04

He’s a proper cunt. He isn’t nice. Not one bit.
sorry if the terminology offends but that’s exactly what he is. He used you like a toy.
Therapy and freedom programme and self-care OP.
You do not deserve this.

MrsEMR · 15/07/2025 15:07

It’s not you, it’s him that is the problem. It is he who is not worthy of your love.
He is a nasty spiteful man with 2 ex wives (I wonder what stories they could tell) and his children have nothing to do with him.
He has put you through the wringer with his gaslighting, so please as a starting point, do not acknowledge or interact with him in any way from now on. Do you have access to an EAP through your employer? That would give you access to therapy sessions so you can start to rebuild your self esteem.

HoppingPavlova · 15/07/2025 15:10

I meant to add that if someone does treat me badly does that mean I deserve it?
No, it generally means they are a cunt to varying degrees.

You also lost me at cleaning your house until sparkling for him to come over. That’s in no way normal. No way I’d do any cleaning outside of my usual (substandard) level for anyone, be it friend or man. As long as it’s not a biohazard people should take your place as it is normally, you shouldn’t need to go to any extra lengths to impress people.

Surely you know a workplace is for working, not for kissing people as you said happened, that’s so inappropriate. Also, doesn’t matter who at work is married etc, it’s a very bad idea, I believe the saying is ‘don’t shit where you eat’.

I would say, invest in therapy for however long is needed, then be open to meeting a man outside of the workplace. The best way to do this is by just going to hobbies and things you genuinely enjoy with no expectation other than friendship with likeminded folk/people with similar interests. If something were then to spark from that with a single man it would likely be worth exploring.

Pancakeflipper · 15/07/2025 15:14

Kindly, you made yourself available to him.
He's abused that. He knows he can get away with being a total arse to you.

This is toxic.

Please see a therapist and get your self belief, esteem and self worth stronger. Don't interact with him anymore. Delete all contact details. A non-commital nod if you walk past him

He's using you because he's unhappy and a mess. That's not fair and you deserve much better in life.

chatgptsbestmate · 15/07/2025 15:18

Get yourself a therapist. See them twice a week if you can. You REALLY need help to stop you allowing people/men to treat you appallingly

Book the first appointment ASAP

Careeringallovertheplace · 15/07/2025 15:18

I really feel for you. He has repeatedly been extremely unkind.

You need to take the kindness that you're directing towards him, flip it round and point it to yourself instead, and try to never contact him again.

Your post is very well written. Maybe this is a huge curveball but can you look up creative writing courses to have something to focus on, and build your confidence? When you have improved your self esteem you'll be able to protect yourself better from being treated poorly.

IncessantNameChanger · 15/07/2025 15:22

I work in a male dominated field. The lovely men are plenty... but they are always lovely. The lovely married ones talk kindly of their wives and kids. They might have an occasional moan as we all do but they are overall nice decent people.

He doesn't sound nice at all. He sounds like a total user. He saw you was vulnerable and fucked about with that for his own ego.

Frostynoman · 15/07/2025 15:22

He is awful. It is all him and not you. You’re done nothing wrong here.

You have to break all contact and avoid him as he sounds manipulative and a bully.

You also need to work on your low self esteem - he’s using this to his advantage - this isn’t anything you deserve or have done. I’m sorry he’s treated you this way.

Foreverm0re · 15/07/2025 15:26

He’s a massive prick and has used you. Don’t be his doormat anymore.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 15/07/2025 15:29

He sounds utterly utterly deranged!

OP his behaviour is not on you, however you really should investigate why you repeatedly accept this shoddy treatment.

You owe it to yourself.

InterestedBeing · 15/07/2025 15:48

What is the expression...he loved that you loved him.

8 years of this when he came back several times means it's going to take a long time to get over it and youll be wondering if he's really gone this time.

Never speak to him again. He reacted very badly to even accidental contact wjth him...the mug etc.

Nothing to say other than it will take a lot of time.

ArsenicAlice · 15/07/2025 15:52

He sounds like he's off his rocker.

It reads like he is not safe to be emotionally involved with. He has serious issues that he’s taken out on someone vulnerable. He's not fit to be in any romantic relationships until he's sorted out his own damage and dysfunctional behaviour.

And what happened when he said to the boss "I f-d her" - did the boss just let that go by? He's involved work colleagues and management inappropriately here and used work to continue the power games. He's a disgusting mess.

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 15/07/2025 15:55

There is a reason why he has had 2 failed marriages and why his kids do not talk to him.

There is nothing what so ever wrong with you, it is him. He sound vile and arrogant.

You have done nothing wrong, apart from perhaps using his cup, that was a mistake, but he did not need to react as he did.

strawberrysea · 15/07/2025 16:12

Oh love I’m so sorry :( how terrible for you. My heart broke reading this. I’m really glad that you’re doing therapy, I think it will help a lot. No one deserves this treatment.

SummerCity · 15/07/2025 16:18

You were too kind to him and after he went cold on you you should have left it there and not trusted him. He was just playing with you and his behaviour was cruel. I am shocked at what he said to you in front of his boss and the mug incident was pathetic. You were too kind and trusting but it wasn’t your fault he was such a horrible person.

YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 16:24

I am taking the time to read through each of your messages and I want to say thank you. I am deeply touched as well as very very grateful that no one has been hard on me. I really really appreciate this as I'm a total mess. It's taking me time to read them as I'm frightened I may get some bad reactions (haven't) but I'm really touched at your kindness.

I will continue to read and take what you've all said on board and from the bottom of my heart thank you so so much everyone.

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