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YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:23

Hi - I am just hoping for a little help here...haven't been through a situation like I'm currently experiencing and it's very painful to the point of making me sick.

If I can kindly ask that no one advises against workplace romances, as I work with several couples, some of whom are married and even one who is divorced. I know a lot of people in my place of work who met here and are now married and still working together. So I thought it was ok for me too.

I don't have a support system. My parents have both passed away and friends that I do have keep everything at a surface level, which has made me unable to discuss this, therefore I apologise in advance for the length. I can't face anymore harsh criticism, so if you don't have time to read this as I understand it is very long, or you are critical of me, please be kind. I'm blaming myself enough.

I met a man, a colleague who I really liked, about 8 years ago, admired from afar as he was married and never gave it much thought other than I thought he was a really nice decent man. A few years after we started working together, he told me that his second marriage was on the rocks and that he felt unlovable. I told him that I thought he was very lovable and made a joke that if I'd marry him if they were to split. Again, didn't pay it too much mind and thought nothing would ever happen, went about my life. Another few years passed without incident.

As Covid was coming to an end, and with his marriage over, we had been getting on very well at work and one night out of the blue, he rang me and we talked for 5 hours about everything and anything. I had been single for a long time after an abusive relationship with a man from outside the UK who just disappeared on me one night after living together for almost a year. At this point, I hadn't had a relationship in 11 years and wasn't looking but I was really really drawn to this guy at work. We had a lovely conversation but again, nothing much to report afterward.

A couple of months later, I plucked up the courage to ask him if he'd like to have another phonecall (facetime). We were essential workers and still in the cloud of the pandemic so thought this was the best approach. I wasn't prepared for his response. At this point he was 49 years old, he stood up, started to rub his chest, said 'oh God no no...oh no...this is making me really uncomfortable...' and left the room. I had rehearsed this in my head all day waiting for the right moment and this happened. I was completely mortified, hurt and eventually went home and beat myself up for not being cool enough or maybe even good enough for him. When I woke up the next morning he had called me three times and sent me messages to see if I was ok. I texted back how shocked I was and how I had obviously misread the signals, but told him he was someone I had grown to like very much and that it wasn't my intention to upset or scare him. When I got back to work a few days later, he'd stopped speaking to me.

This went on for a couple of weeks so I just kept my head down and got on with it. Another two weeks passed and all of a sudden, he was trying to make me laugh again, which he always could. I was relieved he seemed ok, but just left him to it. We started to get on better, and for his 50th I bought him a silly gift, no one else in his life seemed to make an effort, so I wanted to do something for him. On one of our dates he told me that his friends dog had used it as a chew toy. (It was a bottle opener made from wood).

We would be here all year if I told you the full story but although he and his wife didn't divorce, they separated, and he said he wanted nothing to do with women for a year. This to me was fine and healthy but he made a huge announcement to me about it. Feeling it safe, I said 'well if after that year is up, would you like to have a coffee with me?' and he said 'yes...I will have a think about that'.

No more than 2 weeks passed, when we were alone and he asked me out. I was elated! We set a date and he was calling me and texting me in the build up to it. All his nerves seemed to have gone. He sent me photos of himself, went through my socials and complimented me on my photos. He even sent me a few intimate pics. In work that day he kissed me for the first time.

We had arranged for him to come to my home, as I knew him so well this wasn't an issue and we were going to have a few drinks. I made a real effort, scrubbed the house until it was shining, and made myself look really nice, I thought. He arrived at the time we arranged. We sat down for our first drink and he immediately started to become nervous again. He admitted to being nervous and I just soothed him, telling him to relax, it was just me etc...but he said 'no no I have to leave'. He was only with me despite the massive build up for 5 minutes. I was completely and totally distraught and thought it must be something to do with my looks, or weight etc. I'm not stick thin and quite curvy but he had been paying me so many compliments I thought he was attracted.

I had the awful situation of having to face him again in work but I just tried to walk past him with a brief hello. It was agonising - he did attempt a short apology but in his words it was 'sorry about everything I just got all'...and made this funny noise that you would make as if you were shivering or something.

I had developed feelings by this point but just had to try to get on with it. I was hit with various other awful things like him accusing me of stalking one of his exes. He blew up at me in work as I had clicked on her profile when she came up as a friend suggestion. It was genuine. She is friends with my cousin and I have family in the area he is from. He defriended me from facebook as I had clicked 'like' on this ladies nails, and then once I realised who she was I unliked it. Thinking no harm done, but he found out. He was SO angry with me. It crushed me that he had deleted me and when I tried to explain the family connection, he put his hand up in front of me and said 'I don't want to hear it'. When I said 'Please let me explain!' he shouted 'F* off' at me infront of my colleagues.

There is a lot of other stuff that has happened but that Christmas he approached me again after he started talking to me again and we slept together. He told me he knew how much I had fallen for him and that he just needed time as he admitted he didn't know what he was doing with his life. I told him to take all the time he needed. A few days later, he stopped speaking to me again. He approached me for another date which I agreed to and at the time he was due to meet me, he cancelled, saying he wasn't quite ready.

Then he came round again - this time my idea I admit it as I couldn't let him go. We became more involved and he came to my home, asked to see my family albums, made me promises about holidays, the future, said I didn't have to be concerned about money anymore (I'm very independent so it isn't a money issue anyway but was nice to have support). We were close, talking on the phone, being intimate, he even said 'imagine how everyone in work will feel when they find out we've been together for like 8 months' or something..! He told me he wanted me to meet his family, and let me facetime with his sister. It was clear she knew who I was and paid me lots of compliments, telling me she only wanted him to be happy. I said I would never hurt him and would always try to make him happy. He told his sister that I would do anything for him and he told me he felt I was his soulmate. He told other people (who told me) that he had told them he knew I had fallen for him and that I was a lovely girl who would make a wonderful wife.

On the day we were due to meet his family, his whole demeanour changed. We woke up and even his facial expressions were different. He said 'I have to go now' and when I enquired about the family he said 'we'll do it another time'. He assured me he wasn't coming back but I didn't hear from him for 5 days. He sent a text to say he wanted to be alone, he didn't love me, he knew I loved him, that all it was was 'sex and a drink', and that he knew I'd react badly and he had to go because I was stressing him out.

I totally and completely fell apart but managed to sort of hold it together at work. Despite his text, a month later he approached me again, asking for another chance and when I asked him why he had told me he didn't want me, his explanation was that he had just freaked out because he knew I had such deep feelings. Of course I agreed. Nearly as soon as I agreed, he turned cold. Despite the fact we'd made a date, he became cold with me. When I asked him why, he said 'I'm not going back there, I can't do it'.

This was the only time that I visibly cracked at work. Someone saw me crying and told my colleague who told him. He became so so angry with me that he arranged a meeting with me and my boss in which he said in front of my boss 'I did not make love to you - I f*** you'. My boss said nothing. He told me he could 'get any girl in a bar and take her home' and told me that I had caused him a total nightmare.

I took some time off work and when I returned I didn't go near him. But apparently made one fatal mistake. I borrowed his coffee cup. One day when I forgot my own, I used his. Washed it thoroughly and put it back. He found out about this too because someone started to tease him about me using it and he apparently laughed. But with me it was a different story. He took the cup home and said 'I don't like anyone using my stuff'. Despite having been in my home etc.

For the next month he stopped talking to me and texted my colleagues to say things like 'Tell her I'm hiding in the toilets' or 'has she gone yet?'. I was so devastated because all I had done was borrowed a cup. I hadn't bothered him, begged him, stalked him, annoyed him, nothing at all. I had left him alone. I begged my boss to talk to him, to get him to stop and he said he would not speak to him, but would keep an eye on it. It continued for over a month with no help until I begged my boss. I was so humiliated and because of this, decided to move to a different department.

On the day that I moved, the guy was coming out of the department I work in. I don't know why he was there but he shouted 'Good luck in the new job!' at me and walked on. I have rarely seen him since but if I do bump into him he is very nice, talkative wants to show me pictures on his phone etc. I do not understand this behaviour. He was hiding from me, but now he's being nice?

Because of everything that has happened, I have become a shell of myself. I work alone now, with very little interaction with anyone, I've isolated myself and feel like everyone hates me or doesn't want me around. He has remained in his position, which I guess is down to me as I didn't make a fuss as I would never have wanted him to be hurt. So I've carried it all. I felt I had up to a point a good relationship with my former boss but he didn't speak out for me or help me with some of the language that was used, the hiding in the toilets and the silent treatment that the guy inflicted in work. I've heard rumours of being called names like Baby Reindeer which I never was. I never stalked him, called him repeatedly, went to his home, didn't do anything harmful to him at all. He said that 'you went about it all the wrong way'. I have never asked a guy out before so that was a huge knock.

His kids don't talk to him anymore and I had hoped he would be able to reconcile whatever happened with my help but it's never happened. He told me his ex wife has turned them against him.

I've come away thinking that I'm a freak, that there is something the matter with me because I fell for someone who I genuinely liked. It is killing me, I've had to have therapy but nothing is convincing me that I didn't cause this by loving him and by believing he was just scared and giving so many chances. There are days I just don't cope at all, then days I really do, and days I really miss him so so much. I believed he was a different man, I still do believe he's lost and afraid but I don't know why he had to do this to someone who had been so kind to him and loving for so long, even when we weren't together. My fear is now that I'm no good for anyone and never will be. I'm 49 now and can't get past it. No matter what I try to do it's like a black cloud hanging over me. I really doubt myself now, all my interactions with people and fear because I'm not picture perfect, or picture thin that this happened to me due to that. To me he is very handsome, so maybe that's it? I am so scared for my future now, and my health is declining. I didn't know it was such a crime to be in love but if someone does hide from me in the bathroom, it surely means I'm repulsive? Out of everything I had shared with him and everything he knew, the hiding is probably the worst. I have thought of ending my life because if I am that bad what is the point, but I am trying to believe that maybe this isn't my fault? I just don't know anymore and thank you from the bottom of my heart to anyone who takes the time to read this and for letting me talk.

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Itsalittlewetout · 12/09/2025 15:45

Have a read about Rejection Sensitivity. It co-occurs with ADHD an awful lot.

Intense emotional pain:
Individuals with RSD experience overwhelming feelings of shame, inadequacy, or a sense of personal failure from even minor criticism or perceived slights.

CampCrow · 12/09/2025 16:03

@YourBrickTiger What are you hoping to get from this thread? Can you say what you actually want people to help you with? We can’t make him turn into a nice person and we can’t change the past. What do you want to happen in the future?

You don’t seem to be able to take on the advice that people are giving you and you still seem as confused and fixated on the idea that it’s your fault that he isn’t interested in having a relationship with you. Posters have been really helpful and supportive but I think your situation is too serious to get meaningful help from a chat forum. To everyone else it’s obvious that this man is a nasty piece of work but you are still dwelling on how much you loved him and how well you treated him.

You need more professional help and not a chat forum.

You also need to leave your job.

YourBrickTiger · 12/09/2025 16:28

CampCrow · 12/09/2025 16:03

@YourBrickTiger What are you hoping to get from this thread? Can you say what you actually want people to help you with? We can’t make him turn into a nice person and we can’t change the past. What do you want to happen in the future?

You don’t seem to be able to take on the advice that people are giving you and you still seem as confused and fixated on the idea that it’s your fault that he isn’t interested in having a relationship with you. Posters have been really helpful and supportive but I think your situation is too serious to get meaningful help from a chat forum. To everyone else it’s obvious that this man is a nasty piece of work but you are still dwelling on how much you loved him and how well you treated him.

You need more professional help and not a chat forum.

You also need to leave your job.

I guess just what most of you have already said. That he has been rotten to me and that I am maybe good enough to have not deserved it. Thank you. In terms of too serious what do you mean? Thank you x

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CampCrow · 12/09/2025 16:44

You are clearly very distressed by this situation and it’s effecting your mental health. You are not thinking rationally. That’s what I mean by it being serious. That why you need proper professional help. Do you think it’s serious?

You've had nearly a 1000 posts on this thread and I have rarely seen a thread where so many posters are in agreement. Everyone (nearly!) is telling you that this guy is a really nasty pathetic man and that you did not deserve to be treated so badly by him and yet you don’t seem to be able to accept it. It seems like you don’t even want to accept it.

GwendolineFairfax8 · 12/09/2025 17:34

YourBrickTiger · 12/09/2025 09:31

Would it be someone who wakes up and thinks why am I with this fat cow? No?

I have two close friends who are a larger size than you. They are gorgeous, dress well and their husbands adore them. In both cases they have been married for well over 20 years. Some men are not shallow like your man is. In fact, large and small, all my friends’ husbands are respectful to women.

If anyone called my larger friends a horrible name like ‘fat cow’ in my hearing, they would know about it. You are too fixated on not being stunning - very few of us are. It’s ok.

You have the opportunity to free up some money to dress well and lose weight if that is what you want for yourself (not for him).

Please listen to the lovely posters who are taking the time to try to help you - rather than jump on anything negative when they clearly don’t mean it to be.

Bittenonce · 12/09/2025 18:36

Itsalittlewetout · 12/09/2025 15:45

Have a read about Rejection Sensitivity. It co-occurs with ADHD an awful lot.

Intense emotional pain:
Individuals with RSD experience overwhelming feelings of shame, inadequacy, or a sense of personal failure from even minor criticism or perceived slights.

Oh fuck, I think this might be me. I’ll have to look it up now

Itsalittlewetout · 12/09/2025 18:43

Bittenonce · 12/09/2025 18:36

Oh fuck, I think this might be me. I’ll have to look it up now

I definitely suffer at times. I find rejection physically and mentally painful.

Bittenonce · 12/09/2025 21:02

Itsalittlewetout · 12/09/2025 18:43

I definitely suffer at times. I find rejection physically and mentally painful.

Then there’s the vicious circle of avoiding situations where that might happen and becoming depressed and lonely, less likeable and more likely to be rejected…..

Itsalittlewetout · 12/09/2025 21:08

Bittenonce · 12/09/2025 21:02

Then there’s the vicious circle of avoiding situations where that might happen and becoming depressed and lonely, less likeable and more likely to be rejected…..

Being Autistic is just bloody great! I have found that by having ND friends we laugh at each other and that helps an awful lot. It’s very important to find people who understand. Masking is exhausting, hiding is lonely. I don’t know why they say that ND people are loners, it’s just a lie. We want connections massively. It’s a minefield and I can see why people just give up bothering to make friends or have relationships. Being rejected over and over is soul destroying and all because you are just a little different.

Bittenonce · 12/09/2025 21:30

Itsalittlewetout · 12/09/2025 21:08

Being Autistic is just bloody great! I have found that by having ND friends we laugh at each other and that helps an awful lot. It’s very important to find people who understand. Masking is exhausting, hiding is lonely. I don’t know why they say that ND people are loners, it’s just a lie. We want connections massively. It’s a minefield and I can see why people just give up bothering to make friends or have relationships. Being rejected over and over is soul destroying and all because you are just a little different.

I’m not on the spectrum so I can’t pretend to understand- but whoever you are, if you’ve got a friendship group where nobody feels the need to hide or mask anything - winner winner chicken dinner!

Subwaystop · 12/09/2025 22:03

Just want to say I just read this full thread. I’m so deeply moved by the beautiful souls that congregated here and provided so much emotional labor with love, wisdom, patience and kindness. Truly heartening. I learned a lot. I bet others will too. This thread will go a long way for many who need gentle support from emotional abuse.

OP I wish for you with all my heart that you get to a place where you finally are free from the emotional grip this insane man has on you. Get free! Stay away from him! There is light at the end of the tunnel, if only you get far away from him and everything related to him. He’s like an addiction and you’re going high and low with this drug. Like with every addiction, you need full cold turkey of the drug in order to heal. You need to not even see him. Full abstinence. If I was you, I would focus one day at a time on coming off the addiction. Withdrawal can put you in a very dark place but keep going, and life will soon level out and be good again!

TheAverageJoanne · 13/09/2025 08:23

@Subwaystop Insane is the word to describe him. It's extraordinary how he goes on.

skiiees · 13/09/2025 20:39

@YourBrickTiger @Itsalittlewetout @Bittenonce
There are some good podcasts on ADHD/ND, I think my child has it and possibly me and OH and these are useful with lots of different episodes about different areas of ND

ADHD Chatter
HealthyGamerGG
Caren Macgill
Auticate

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nBvOtgH-I

Illegally18 · 13/09/2025 20:43

YourBrickTiger · 15/07/2025 14:38

Damn I knew I'd leave something out. I meant to add that if someone does treat me badly does that mean I deserve it? Am not good enough? Thank you for your advice and kind reply.

Of course you don't deserve it! But you do need to know how to protect yourself and make good choices in life.

TheAverageJoanne · 14/09/2025 18:52

Hope you're having a good weekend @YourBrickTiger

Sunflowers67 · 14/09/2025 20:39

@TheAverageJoanne I second that! Have thought about your plight a few times over the weekend and have been sending positive vibes your way.

YourBrickTiger · 17/09/2025 13:49

Just want to say thank you to everyone who has commented, I will reply in more detail soon. I really appreciate all the well wishes, kindness and time. Things weren't great over the weekend, but I feel slightly better.

And a small development, I was talking to a member of my old team who is sick and tired of the sexual chat and how women are referred to in general. One of the team was overheard saying 'oh I would just eat her ass and look at the tits on her' about one of the younger women who work here. This employee (female) has had enough about it and really wants to speak to the boss about it but fears as ever nothing will be done. I know it sounds awful but it's these sort of attitudes from men, and older men in relationships who have me doubting myself so much. Plus if these women heard this...I dread to think what would happen.

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Sunflowers67 · 17/09/2025 15:24

It may be a good idea to try and have a quiet word with other women that work there? A mass complaint to management/head office cannot be ignored. And if it was, local papers! How great would it be to see this lot dealt with.

Bittenonce · 17/09/2025 15:28

If these things are never reported, never complained about - the employer can always say ‘we never knew’.
If they’re reported - and the employer does nothing - then they’re wide open to being sued. So they have to act.
Basically if you - and her - don’t speak out, nothing will ever change. But keep records! Dates, times, who, what when….

YourBrickTiger · 17/09/2025 15:42

Bittenonce · 17/09/2025 15:28

If these things are never reported, never complained about - the employer can always say ‘we never knew’.
If they’re reported - and the employer does nothing - then they’re wide open to being sued. So they have to act.
Basically if you - and her - don’t speak out, nothing will ever change. But keep records! Dates, times, who, what when….

They may well suspect it was me. How would I deal with that? And am I right to assume not everyone talks about women like this where they work?

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TheAverageJoanne · 17/09/2025 16:32

YourBrickTiger · 17/09/2025 15:42

They may well suspect it was me. How would I deal with that? And am I right to assume not everyone talks about women like this where they work?

Of course most people don't talk like that. I've never heard it in 18 years. They'd be fired.

kellygoeswest · 17/09/2025 16:39

YourBrickTiger · 17/09/2025 15:42

They may well suspect it was me. How would I deal with that? And am I right to assume not everyone talks about women like this where they work?

Absolutely not. I've only worked in one job where this was commonplace and it was an awful call centre where the managers were all in their early to mid twenties managing a group of 16-21 year olds.

At any subsequent workplace, including my current one, this would result in serious action.

ACAS have some really helpful information about workplace harassment, including sexual harassment (which includes unwelcome sexual comments).

Notabikerchick · 17/09/2025 17:48

The guy is a nob. He used you, was never really into you. You need to move on, get therapy, get a new job. Endlessly dissecting this is not going to help you.

Sunflowers67 · 17/09/2025 18:08

Is this behaviour the norm at workplaces? God no!

At my grand old age and probably more than 10 places that I have worked at - and mostly a male environment, I have never had even an inappropriate wink or a nudge. It is more than they dare do, even if they were inclined to.
Professional, respectful, kind and considerate is the norm!

I think given the circumstances and what has gone on before, I would be keeping my eyes and ears open. If you hear or see any of these vile men behaving like that towards a woman at work, bide your time and wait. Catch her alone, say you saw/heard what happened and ask if she is okay. That way, you get the lie of the land without 'outing' yourself and can maybe get a little group together of women that refuse to tolerate this any longer. The same applies to any bullying behaviour towards other men - because I bet they also pick on men that are not testosterone fuelled pricks like them.

In these situations, no-one wants to stick their head above the parapet on their own, especially as most will assume that 'nothing will be done about it' - but together you are stronger.

Get me a job there and I'll sort them out.

🌻

CampCrow · 17/09/2025 18:23

OP don’t understand why you aren’t looking for a new job. You need to get away from the guy and from this workplace

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