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Am I odd for thinking this is a mean gift

260 replies

drycleanonly · 12/07/2025 09:16

Back story - I’ve just turned 60, he’s 69. Seen him a couple of times before but for various reasons couldn’t accept his offer to his house last night, so he came to mine. With his uninvited and unexpected (but very welcome) ageing dog.
He brought a bottle of wine, but this is where my mind is blown. He also brought a three tomatoes from an opened pack of six and a thing of mozzarella.
Call me old fashioned, but I was feeling guilty for not being able to get to Marks and get an array of olives, cheeses, nice things.
Have I lost the plot after 23 years of marriage and my first date in the five years since my divorce, or is that a red flag? I was totally dumbfounded, tbh!!!

OP posts:
Pinty · 12/07/2025 16:53

Bringing the dog is rude and I wouldn't be happy about that
The wine cheese and mozzarella is fine. I think they were probably a contribution to the meal.

Doggymummar · 12/07/2025 16:54

He's a pensioner perhaps a but skint, I would try harder,but I have plenty of money

MyHouseInThePrairie · 12/07/2025 16:55

Namechangean · 12/07/2025 16:36

What was selfish? Please explain I’m so confused

In a situation like this, I’d have brought a bottle of wine to go with the meal.
Even if it was a takeaway.

3 tomatoes agd a bit of mozzarella is what I’d brought if I was going to a very good friend of mine and we had talked about preparing a meal together.
Well no actually I’d have brought more than that!
But no way That’s suitable for a second date.

BoomerAllTheWay · 12/07/2025 16:56

drycleanonly · 12/07/2025 09:16

Back story - I’ve just turned 60, he’s 69. Seen him a couple of times before but for various reasons couldn’t accept his offer to his house last night, so he came to mine. With his uninvited and unexpected (but very welcome) ageing dog.
He brought a bottle of wine, but this is where my mind is blown. He also brought a three tomatoes from an opened pack of six and a thing of mozzarella.
Call me old fashioned, but I was feeling guilty for not being able to get to Marks and get an array of olives, cheeses, nice things.
Have I lost the plot after 23 years of marriage and my first date in the five years since my divorce, or is that a red flag? I was totally dumbfounded, tbh!!!

You say you’ve seen him a couple of times. Later you say this is a second date. Which is it? This seems to be a casual visit and he brought some items to your home. He probably expected that you would have food to eat and would just add what he brought. Should he have brought a whole meal to your house? I sure would not have. Maybe I’d just bring a bottle of wine to add to the food you’d have at your house

ForMyBenefit · 12/07/2025 16:59

pelargoniums · 12/07/2025 16:25

According to what, Debretts Guide to Food Waste

Commom courtesy

ForMyBenefit · 12/07/2025 17:01

Tadahhh · 12/07/2025 16:27

Why, my friends would feel relaxed enough to do that!

That's a tiny bit different to a second date. I wouldn’t do it with my friends though, it shows you haven’t bothered. I wouldn’t even do it for my family either. It’s just basic good manners.

JLou08 · 12/07/2025 17:03

MyHouseInThePrairie · 12/07/2025 16:55

In a situation like this, I’d have brought a bottle of wine to go with the meal.
Even if it was a takeaway.

3 tomatoes agd a bit of mozzarella is what I’d brought if I was going to a very good friend of mine and we had talked about preparing a meal together.
Well no actually I’d have brought more than that!
But no way That’s suitable for a second date.

He did take a bottle of wine. I'm not sure what the OP was expecting. A bottle of wine and a snack is perfectly acceptable in my eyes. OP was the host and didn't provide anything at all by the sounds of it. I'd say it's the OP who needs to contribute more.

TwistedWonder · 12/07/2025 17:04

Tadahhh · 12/07/2025 16:27

Why, my friends would feel relaxed enough to do that!

This is a second date not a friend that he’s already comfortable and relaxed with.

My friends help themselves to food and drink in my fist whilst wearing pyjamas- I wouldn’t expect the same from a man I barely know. It’s a completely different dynamic

MyCoralHedgehog · 12/07/2025 17:04

I think at age 69 artisan is not really a way of life for our generation. He bought wine and a couple of bits to use up to avoid waste. Not a problem in my world and the dog would be so welcome too

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 12/07/2025 17:08

He brought a starter and wine? It also sounds fine to me. As for the dog, perhaps you'd said you wanted to meet it? Or perhaps your date wasn't sure what time he'd be home 😉?

AcquadiP · 12/07/2025 17:11

I'm a dog owner and I wouldn't dream of just turning up with my dog; that was presumptuous and rude. The tomatoes and mozzarella thing is odd if it wasn't discussed beforehand but it was a contribution I suppose. And he brought wine. I'm fencesitting on this one.

DappledThings · 12/07/2025 17:16

itgetsthehoseagain · 12/07/2025 16:48

Bringing such meagre fare to OP's house.

It was an extra, he wasn't expecting to provide dinner given he was the one who was the guest.

Namechangean · 12/07/2025 17:18

MyHouseInThePrairie · 12/07/2025 16:55

In a situation like this, I’d have brought a bottle of wine to go with the meal.
Even if it was a takeaway.

3 tomatoes agd a bit of mozzarella is what I’d brought if I was going to a very good friend of mine and we had talked about preparing a meal together.
Well no actually I’d have brought more than that!
But no way That’s suitable for a second date.

But what was selfish? He invited her to his, she couldn’t go and said come to mine. She had no intention of providing a meal. He arrives with a bottle of wine to share and some ingredients to rustle up a snack to go with the wine? He’d perhaps planned to serve that to her if she had come to his.

He did bring a bottle of wine, but he wasn’t asked to bring a meal, and she didn’t offer him one. Was just an ad hoc visit. And some people are calling him selfish and sayings it’s red flags because he arrived with 3 tomatos instead of 6 and didn’t have any balsamic vinegar with him? I honestly don’t get it

Namechangean · 12/07/2025 17:20

MyHouseInThePrairie · 12/07/2025 16:51

I think he is reflecting the fact he is a 70yo man deeply entrenched in a patriarcal society that has told him that bringing two bits of food to prepare a salad makes him an amazing person.
I’d assume he has never entertained anyone at home too.

Same with the dog. Theres a whiff of ‘whatever I want is going’ sentiment going on….

He tried. At his level….

Did I miss the post where she said he asked her to be grateful? Or made her prepare him dinner?

Happysummerrain · 12/07/2025 17:26

itgetsthehoseagain · 12/07/2025 16:48

Bringing such meagre fare to OP's house.

But the OP had nothing in for him. Bit indecent of a host. How would the OP have felt if she had gone to his home and had nothing and what would she have taken?

Namechangean · 12/07/2025 17:26

This post is blowing my mind. If he arrived with a bottle of wine only he’d have been a polite house guest.

Because he also took ingredients that make a light salad, now he’s selfish, red flags, stingey, only wants things his way, too old to bring anything to the table

cosietea · 12/07/2025 17:28

Sounds like he made more effort than you.

pusspuss9 · 12/07/2025 17:31

TwistedWonder · 12/07/2025 09:21

I know you say the dog was welcome but it’s rude and entitled to take a dog to someone’s home without checking first.

As for the tomatoes and mozzarella- very very strange!

As for the tomatoes and mozzarella- very very strange!
not at all. Here on the continent it's very common. we have it all the time, exactly as @LynetteScavo describes.

starfishmummy · 12/07/2025 17:35

drycleanonly · 12/07/2025 10:31

It was a second date though 🫣

I think I'm more surprised by him coming to your home on a second date than I am about the tomatoes!

WolfFoxHare · 12/07/2025 17:47

JIMER202 · 12/07/2025 16:36

He was born in the 50s and you in the 60s, you probably were raised and experienced quite different things as those generations were wildly different!

I truly can’t think of anything a nearly 70yr old man could bring to the table, and if he’s this selfish already, throw him back!

Clearly he could bring a nice caprese salad to the table.

TwistedWonder · 12/07/2025 17:52

pusspuss9 · 12/07/2025 17:31

As for the tomatoes and mozzarella- very very strange!
not at all. Here on the continent it's very common. we have it all the time, exactly as @LynetteScavo describes.

Yes I know it’s part of a starter/salad but it’s turning up on a second date with those two ingredients without any discussion I find strange.

ThatDaringEagle · 12/07/2025 17:57

OP asked: " Am I odd for thinking this is a mean gift"

Yes, you are odd for thinking this was a mean gift.
(Most particularly cos you invited him to yours yet cooked nothing, bought nothing & had nothing at all prepared to entertain a guest!!)

WolfFoxHare · 12/07/2025 18:17

Gymbunny2025 · 12/07/2025 12:49

He brought 3 cherry tomatoes from one of those tomato and mozzarella salads? that’s hilarious and insane 😂😂

I think I’d have to bring something in return. Like a half eaten sandwich and an apple core 😂. I’d genuinely wonder what he’d say?!

That’s… that’s not what she said.

MyHouseInThePrairie · 12/07/2025 18:23

Namechangean · 12/07/2025 17:20

Did I miss the post where she said he asked her to be grateful? Or made her prepare him dinner?

If he wasn’t planning to have dinner there, why did he bring tomatoes and mozzarella?
That would be really weird….

Disturbia81 · 12/07/2025 18:32

TwistedWonder · 12/07/2025 10:16

I’m similar age to you and 10 years is a huge difference at this age. I wouldn’t touch anyone more than 3/4 years older with a bargepole. Many men are very very set in their ways by their 60’s and looking for the proverbial nurse with a purse.

Maybe look for a man closer to your own age who’s on the same page?

Edited

It’s huge at any age, bin this one OP.

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