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Argh! DD caught me with FWB in the house

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Lionesseses · 09/06/2025 14:08

Long story short, my DD(15) came home unexpectedly from school earlier, and arrived home to find me in the house with my ‘friend’. She knows him vaguely as he’s the dad of a school friend of hers (we’re both single parents, and that’s how we met originally).

She didn’t catch us at it, thank God. But we were both upstairs (we had just had sex, and had got dressed again). I was all easy breezy about it saying ‘Oh, Andy is here! We weren’t expecting you home!’ But I was embarrassed and massively thankful she hadn’t been ten minutes earlier!

Then he left and she was asking why he was here, are we seeing each other etc. She doesn’t know that we’ve had this arrangement for a couple of years now, completely physical, friendly on the rare occasions we see each other otherwise but with no intention of becoming a proper couple.

I don’t want to explain our relationship to her because it’s not really her business and it’s not the kind of concept I’d want her thinking of (especially not in the context of me!). Am I right to do that…?

And I worry it might have spoiled things now cos my DD will tell her mate, and it might lead to embarrassment all round. Argh! Annoying.

Any thoughts? I guess I’m hoping it blows over.

OP posts:
FrodoBiggins · 09/06/2025 15:56

Fitasafiddle1 · 09/06/2025 15:54

Grim. Honestly just horrible. Your poor dd. You will end up being the talk of school, as will he.

You must have gone to a very boring school

ScupperedbytheSea · 09/06/2025 15:57

Lionesseses · 09/06/2025 15:09

Ha! We do both have office type jobs that are largely home based but I take a couple of TOIL hours. I’m not on the job on the job! Weekday daytimes are the only time we have really cos the kids are there on weekends.

Even for MN I’m surprised by the ‘grim’ stuff. Two single people in their 40s having sex occasionally. It’s hardly orgies in an opium den. I’m absolutely not wasting my time trying to justify it.

I know right? Two single adults having consensual sex while their almost adult children are not supposed to be around.
MN is such a den of bullshit judgement sometimes, it's utterly depressing.
Some people on here acting like you tried to do a lapdance at assembly while smoking crack.

Teanbiscuits33 · 09/06/2025 15:57

Fiver555 · 09/06/2025 15:53

I would tell her he was upstairs to do some DIY type thing and you offered him a coffee and didn't want to leave him up there on his own so brought your own coffee up at the same time.

Probably best to clear this story with him too so that when/if his daughter asks him, you both give the same answer.

I think she'll believe it - children rarely think their parents are sexual beings!

She’s not a child really, is she? She is in the eyes of the law but she’s a year off being legally allowed to have sex herself, and 15 year olds do know their parents have sex. They might not like the thought, but they know. Adults give teens way less credit for their intelligence than they deserve.

MargoylesofBeelzebub · 09/06/2025 15:59

Catsandcannedbeans · 09/06/2025 15:45

“Why did it have to be your DDs friends dad”

Maybe because the pool of single, sane, sexually attractive men in their 40s is more of a puddle.

Haha I came here to say this. As a single mum looking to set up a FWB situation with a single, sane and sexually attractive man in their late 30's/early 40's, I've been stunned at just how damned difficult it is to find someone who ticks all the boxes AND matches my very limited free time 🤣

OP, I'm very jealous you have this arrangement - good on you!

Tillow4ever · 09/06/2025 15:59

Fitasafiddle1 · 09/06/2025 15:54

Grim. Honestly just horrible. Your poor dd. You will end up being the talk of school, as will he.

Well if this happens the daughter only has herself to blame as she’ll be the one telling everyone.

Given they are doing GCSE’s though, which are about over, they probably aren’t too worried about their school rep anyway.

rosemarble · 09/06/2025 15:59

Lionesseses · 09/06/2025 14:18

I wondered the same thing but it’s apparently to do with exams. She did ring me but I was… busy.
School is only a little distance away as well. In Y11 they are allowed out at lunchtime so she does very occasionally come home. But never before without advance warning.

Year 11 - so exams are GCSEs. What have the school been allowing yr11s so far? If she's been on study leave since exams started you're lucky she didn't catch you before. If they've only been granted study leave this week, then be on your guard!

FrodoBiggins · 09/06/2025 16:00

Tillow4ever · 09/06/2025 15:59

Well if this happens the daughter only has herself to blame as she’ll be the one telling everyone.

Given they are doing GCSE’s though, which are about over, they probably aren’t too worried about their school rep anyway.

Ha yes this didn't occur to me. Poor OP's daughter, subject of a horrible rumour (which she started herself)

wordywitch · 09/06/2025 16:00

Cross-checking the ‘grim’ comments with the people in another thread who are horrified by the thought of kissing their partner with tongues.

MargotMoon · 09/06/2025 16:00

StarCourt · 09/06/2025 14:43

what’s with all the grim comments?

Did you not know that ‘grim’ is the favourite adjective for all the pearl-clutching judgmental types on Mumsnet? It’s my pet hate. Everything is ‘grim’ - from enjoying a bunk-up to going on a hen do.
Basically, anything that in their head they think of as ‘chavvy’ but would NEVER use that word, of course.

FrodoBiggins · 09/06/2025 16:02

wordywitch · 09/06/2025 16:00

Cross-checking the ‘grim’ comments with the people in another thread who are horrified by the thought of kissing their partner with tongues.

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Stop it 😂
OP please tell me you didn't tongue your FWB. How will your daughter's classmates cope?

Catsandcannedbeans · 09/06/2025 16:03

MargoylesofBeelzebub · 09/06/2025 15:59

Haha I came here to say this. As a single mum looking to set up a FWB situation with a single, sane and sexually attractive man in their late 30's/early 40's, I've been stunned at just how damned difficult it is to find someone who ticks all the boxes AND matches my very limited free time 🤣

OP, I'm very jealous you have this arrangement - good on you!

If it makes you feel better my mum is currently dating in her mid 60s and said “the dating pool is bigger now because people have started dying off.”

rosemarble · 09/06/2025 16:03

..I presume she's nearly 16 if she's year 11.
If there is any inkling she suspects you've been having sex with him then I really think you need to be honest - just to a degree that you're OK with. Your sex life isn't her business.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:03

Your daughter is in the final stages of GCSEs
The school is very local

bloody hell you took a risk

MargotMoon · 09/06/2025 16:03

I think the Grim Gang never get laid, that’s why they’re so bitter about other people having fun.

Nothankyov · 09/06/2025 16:04

FrodoBiggins · 09/06/2025 15:55

I don't disagree with “we’re on friendly terms and seeing each other occasionally” or something to that effect but OP pretty much already said that. Unless by "seeing each other" you're suggesting implying dating but that's possibly less accurate. It's not "lying" to have a private life from your children imo.

I didn’t get from the OP posts that she said that - possible I missed it. Obviously you should have a private life - as you can imagine I don’t discuss my sex life with my kids and it’s possible that due to my personal circumstances (im married to their father), I don’t actually have anything to explain as it’s very clear but I like to believe that if I’m asking my kids to be honest with me about their private lives - so I can guide them - then I like to think it’s only fair to be as honest as possible (but keeping it appropriate) - hence me saying I don’t like the line - it’s none of your business. That’s my view

K0OLA1D · 09/06/2025 16:04

BeachRide · 09/06/2025 14:23

Your attitude is grim.

Nothing wrong with the ops attitude. Yours however?

HappyToSmile · 09/06/2025 16:07

I used to leave my door key in the lock just in case my daughter came home unexpectedly and I had a friend over (ex would not say when she would be picked up/dropped off etc). It just gave us a bit of emergency time, but thankfully never came to that!
She's 15, I'd just say he's a friend and he popped over for a catch up if she asks

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Lollypop701 · 09/06/2025 16:08

Op I’m disappointed in you, that you would drink coffee rather than a cup of Yorkshire tea. It’s just not the done thing!!!

hopefully your plumbing is sorted out, if not he’ll have to come again🙈😂 Remember the tea next time !!!

I’d say he’s a friend and you didn’t want to mention anything as it’s not romantic and you didn’t want her to think it was… is the loo upstairs… you were showing him the way?

ps if you leave the key in the door make sure she can’t see you coming downstairs through a window in the door…

Gloriia · 09/06/2025 16:10

Graters · 09/06/2025 15:53

Why? This is 2 consenting adults doing something that works for them both in their own free time.

It's grim because you'd hope the op will have taught her dd that sex is usually part of a loving, committed relationship and not to be used by men just wanting a leg over. Yes the op is an adult and can do as she pleases but in the same way we wouldn't get shit faced every night infront of teens because we are supposed to set an example having very casual sex in the family home would seem a bit shit.

Can't you book a hotel room for a couple of hours next time op?

DBD1975 · 09/06/2025 16:12

You bring a man into her home and it is not her business.
Why not be honest with her on the basis you are friends and see each other for a coffee from time to time.
Your daughter is 15, if you don't think she can read between the lines and doesn't know exactly what is going on you are being somewhat naive, in my opinion.

Gloriia · 09/06/2025 16:12

MargotMoon · 09/06/2025 16:03

I think the Grim Gang never get laid, that’s why they’re so bitter about other people having fun.

Having fun fine, having very casual sex with teens around not.

notadrift · 09/06/2025 16:13

OP is very, very proud of herself and not worried at all.

Dinosaurshoebox · 09/06/2025 16:15

ClearFruit · 09/06/2025 14:43

If a 'FWB' arrangement is what OP was looking for, there are plenty of men around that aren't Parents to her Daughter's friends. Why add the issue of the kids both finding out and being mortified that their Parents are having sex with each other? Teenagers are easily mortified, and this just seems like something that could have been avoided. Yuck.

Perfeectt tiiime for them to thghhwn be taught

  1. Their Parents are individuals separate from them and can make decisions and have experiences that don't centre around them.
  1. Linked to 1 but thee world doesn't revolve around them and this just isn't their business.
Peaceandquietandacuppa · 09/06/2025 16:16

ClearFruit · 09/06/2025 14:43

If a 'FWB' arrangement is what OP was looking for, there are plenty of men around that aren't Parents to her Daughter's friends. Why add the issue of the kids both finding out and being mortified that their Parents are having sex with each other? Teenagers are easily mortified, and this just seems like something that could have been avoided. Yuck.

lol.

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