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DH messages from “Pick me!”

232 replies

Sus808 · 24/05/2025 11:54

Here I am, being that wife who finds messages on her husbands computer.

FFS, just finished typing and noticed how long this is, so sorry about that and I realise many can’t be arsed to read something this long!

Back story: DH used to work with this woman (single with a young kid), very good time girl, in there with all the men being one of the lads if you will, first one to suggest shots, “let’s all go to the casino/strip club”, full of ‘bants’… you get the picture. DH started to get mentionitis about her a lot, they’d talk a lot - this was pre covid so not as much Teams talk etc, but like catch up in the car on long journeys which centred around work but lots of lighthearted personal talk too (I know this because I was once in the car with him during one of these calls - she said on that call that he was being weird, which I assumed because I was in the car he wasn’t being as forthcoming with his chat as usual. I could feel around this time that he was basically having his head turned, but also felt she probably wouldn’t be physically attracted to him as she’s quite a lot more attractive than DH

Sorry realising this is getting long, but want to paint a full picture

She also came to our evening wedding reception and a lot of people mentioned to me how she was a bit handsy and flirtatious with DH (bearing in mind I’d said nothing about her to anyone). We then went to another wedding and she was there and sat out our table - she was OTT with all the men there, sitting on knees etc, getting drunk - I think at this point (maybe due to my comments and looks from others) DH realised what she was like and that she was like this with lots of men, not just him. She went up to her room with some random (much younger) man and I reckon DH was jealous of this as he got hammered and behaved very badly when we got back to the room.

They didn’t actually work together by this point but were still in the same industry. I told DH that the friendship/relationship with her made me uncomfortable and they stopped contact then. He hasn’t mentioned her and has been coy/awkward about her ever since. I saw a few years ago that she’d messaged him on Facebook messenger and he’d not replied. I’ve casually asked him a couple of times if he ever hears from her and he’s said no.

About two months ago DH and I were discussing a new phrase we’d heard: a “pick me” girl - I said that (let’s call her) Steph came to my mind straight away when I heard that phrase as she was the epitome of it. DH looked awkward and said nothing and that conversation ended.

Right finally we are up to today! DH went out and I needed to use the printer so went into his office to find his computer still logged on with all sorts opened on the screen. A WhatsApp message popped up on a group chat with his mates and it looked to be something pornographic so I scrolled through so see what kind of conversation they’d been having - turned out to be nothing but I noticed the contact beneath was Steph! Although named as Dave. I just recognised her picture. So I’ve scrolled through the messages and he’s been having regular contact with her since this time last year (that’s how far back the messages go) - now most of these messages are work related - they work in the same industry and have been discussing work related stuff in a very casual manner, asking about ex colleagues who have applied to work at their place etc, nothing flirtatious whatsoever. But they have been chatting at least fortnightly for a year and he’s not mentioned it. Also there’s “Are you at such and such conference today? Cool, I’ll come and find you there.”

I have looked her up on social media just now and she appears to be in a long term relationship with a woman, so looks like I’ve got nothing to worry about on that front (although I probably never did have anything to worry about regarding her interest in my DH), but obviously I’m pissed off that he’s been secretly in touch with this woman for so long and not said a word - because he knows I’ll be pissed off. The work chat looks innocent, but neither is it necessary - just like “Are you using X system? Is it any good” “John has applied for a job with us, what’s your opinion on him?” “Can you share my LinkedIn post? Cheers mate.”

I shouldn’t have snooped but I have. DH left computer logged on so isn’t being secretive, but Steph is saved as Dave and they’ve been chatting even this morning. DH is home now and is downstairs while I am upstairs. I keep going into the office hoping she’ll respond to his latest message (from this morning) so I can say I’ve seen her pop up, but she’s not done. What can I say to DH to get this conversation started without admitting that I’ve snooped? And what do I even want the outcome to be?!

OP posts:
WORKWORKWORKWORKWORKWORK · 25/05/2025 01:44

He's hiding this from you because he knows its wrong and therefore is actively working against your relationship in order to continue a whatever ship with someone he knows he is tempted by. He is putting her and himself above your feelings. And lying about it.... he sounds like a very weak and foolish man. I'd be giving him a serious serious talk.

MsDogLady · 25/05/2025 08:00

@Sus808, I am sorry that your H has intentionally deceived you about his ongoing contact with this woman he has fancied.

He and Steph have a history of a flirtation at the least. He had mentionitis and a crush, and he became angry and aggressive when he saw her leave a wedding with another man. She was an OTT flirt, challenged his reticence to chat and banter when she didn’t know you were present in his car, was handsy on him at your wedding, and appeared to have an agenda to elicit his jealousy during the other one. When you expressed your discomfort with their dynamic and his interest in her, he seemed to take that on board and put distance between them.

Now you discover that H has been lying by omission. He has failed to mention that they’ve been messaging regularly for at least a year and have also seen each other. Although the chat you’ve read is mundane, Steph’s photo is hidden covertly under a male name. Of further concern is their meeting up at a conference. She has also asked him to attend a sporting event with her, but he declined as he wouldn’t enjoy that particular sport.

@Sus808, his secretly resuming contact with the one woman you felt uncomfortable about and using subterfuge to hide her is a significant transgression. I would tackle this asap. You needed to print something, so had valid reasons to be on his computer and then to check out the explicit content of his open group chat, as your child has been given his password. Jarred when you noticed Steph’s photo called Dave, you logically looked further. I’d have no guilt or qualms about telling him how your discovery of the truth came about. It is he who has deviously maintained online and in-person contact with a woman he fancies for a year.

Loopytiles · 25/05/2025 08:09

Your main focus in your title and posts is OW, not your H.

You (understandably) don’f trust him, due to his behaviour with and about her that suggests he was/is sexually interested in her. He’s still in regular contact with her. Lying about it.

He sounds ripe for an affair with someone, at some point.

Flyswats · 25/05/2025 15:01

Loopytiles · 25/05/2025 08:09

Your main focus in your title and posts is OW, not your H.

You (understandably) don’f trust him, due to his behaviour with and about her that suggests he was/is sexually interested in her. He’s still in regular contact with her. Lying about it.

He sounds ripe for an affair with someone, at some point.

No he doesn't sound "ripe" for anything at all.

"I'd rather watch paint dry"

That's what he sounds like.

ExercicenformedeZ · 25/05/2025 15:05

Loopytiles · 25/05/2025 08:09

Your main focus in your title and posts is OW, not your H.

You (understandably) don’f trust him, due to his behaviour with and about her that suggests he was/is sexually interested in her. He’s still in regular contact with her. Lying about it.

He sounds ripe for an affair with someone, at some point.

Why shouldn't the focus be on the OW? I get so sick of people insisting that OW be treated like innocent little lambs. If you flirt with a married man or encourage him to treat you're trash imo.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 18:41

Doggymummar · 24/05/2025 15:33

Yes, mine stats open all the time unless I shut the computer down. Have you downloaded WhatsApp for windows? Or are you using the mobile version? I use WhatsApp for windows and it's on permanent

I use Whatsapp web. I suppose that explains it.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 18:42

ExercicenformedeZ · 25/05/2025 15:05

Why shouldn't the focus be on the OW? I get so sick of people insisting that OW be treated like innocent little lambs. If you flirt with a married man or encourage him to treat you're trash imo.

The OW isn't cheating on anybody if she's single. The cheater is the married person.

Flyswats · 25/05/2025 19:01

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 18:42

The OW isn't cheating on anybody if she's single. The cheater is the married person.

Well... if you look at the word "adulterer" or "adultery" it usually includes both parties, the married and the unmarried. It only takes fucking up 1 marriage to be an adulterer, apparently.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 25/05/2025 19:02

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 18:42

The OW isn't cheating on anybody if she's single. The cheater is the married person.

No, just meddling in another person's marriage.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 19:13

Flyswats · 25/05/2025 19:01

Well... if you look at the word "adulterer" or "adultery" it usually includes both parties, the married and the unmarried. It only takes fucking up 1 marriage to be an adulterer, apparently.

Sometimes it does, but sometimes it refers only to the married person as here: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/adulterer

In any case, the previous poster used the word cheat, not adultery.

adulterer

1. a married person who has sex with someone who is not their wife or husband…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/adulterer

Flyswats · 25/05/2025 19:20

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 19:13

Sometimes it does, but sometimes it refers only to the married person as here: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/adulterer

In any case, the previous poster used the word cheat, not adultery.

is a "cheater" when described in terms of sexual intimacy not an "adulterer"?

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 19:23

Flyswats · 25/05/2025 19:20

is a "cheater" when described in terms of sexual intimacy not an "adulterer"?

I'm not sure what you mean exactly but only the married person 'cheats'. If the other person is single, they're not cheating on anyone are they?

ExercicenformedeZ · 25/05/2025 19:31

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 19:23

I'm not sure what you mean exactly but only the married person 'cheats'. If the other person is single, they're not cheating on anyone are they?

Even if they aren't technically 'cheating' they are helping someone to betray their spouse, which is just as reprehensible imo.

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 19:36

ExercicenformedeZ · 25/05/2025 19:31

Even if they aren't technically 'cheating' they are helping someone to betray their spouse, which is just as reprehensible imo.

In this case, they can only help those who want to be helped.
And if it wasn't this person, it'd be another.

ExercicenformedeZ · 25/05/2025 20:07

Gwenhwyfar · 25/05/2025 19:36

In this case, they can only help those who want to be helped.
And if it wasn't this person, it'd be another.

That is a really, really poor reason to help someone cheat. Only people with no morals would think that way.

MarkingBad · 25/05/2025 20:16

ExercicenformedeZ · 25/05/2025 20:07

That is a really, really poor reason to help someone cheat. Only people with no morals would think that way.

I'm with you on that. Even if he's the best catch in the world I wouldn't fuck another woman's partner just because I owed her nothing or any other reason. Shame there are so many willing to do just that.

TY78910 · 25/05/2025 20:36

I would honestly just say ‘I went to use the printer, you left your WhatsApp open. I can see Tesco Dave’s profile picture doesn’t look like a Tesco Dave - what’s that about?’

LastPostISwear · 25/05/2025 20:36

While homewrecking is immoral, there’s nothing OP can do about her. She only has influence over her husband and his actions.

MsDogLady · 25/05/2025 22:49

@Sus808, I hope you will speak to your H soon. You need and deserve answers. You did nothing wrong by looking further after you encountered Steph’s photo next to ‘Dave’. That was a sneaky move by H. Their behavior had caused problems earlier in your marriage, so coming across her current presence on his laptop warranted further investigation. Don’t apologize for that. Knowledge is strength, and your peace of mind is a precious thing.

If you hadn’t checked it out, you’d still be in the dark about his secret communication and visits with Steph. Ask him to explain.

AnonymousLee · 26/05/2025 11:08

I'd advise you stop playing Miss Marple in your marriage and get real. Firstly, accept what you've seen and heard in real time actually happened, it's not speculation. You say you were sat next to your husband in the car when Steph called unexpectedly. She picked up on his discomfort, it's not difficult when you're so familiar with someone. She might have decided to have some fun because "you're acting weird" is still irritating you to this day.

Your husband's embarrassing meltdown in the hotel room. Drunken rage, shouting and breaking things over the sight of Steph "working the room" so to speak. The other guests were probably bemused as there's always an attention seeker at a wedding. Your husband's behaviour was baffling wasn't it?

Steph is now under a man's alias in his contacts list. Ask yourself, if your husband was a single man without your feelings to consider, would he need to disguise a female colleague's identity on his phone?

You sound like a levelheaded and trustworthy person who expects the same, obviously you're not getting that here. You need an honest conversation, not an argument but speak your mind. Remember you're married, you've made a heavy investment in this! So exercise your marital right to dump ANYTHING that concerns you on the table, no apologies. Stop hiding "Dave" to save face.

Steph is probably a very insecure, perpetually single woman who found her social calling in the office and on the conference circuit years ago. Loud, crass, ever desperate for male attention and usually kept at arms length by other women. I'm sure most people have worked with someone like that.

Good luck

Sus808 · 26/05/2025 14:03

UPDATE

Right I’ve had it out with him. DD is out all day, so this morning I said to him “Can I have your phone a minute?” he handed it over willingly, I opened up WhatsApp and said “Who is ‘Tesco Dave’?” He admitted straight away it was Steph in a “Shit, you’ve got me” kind of way, nothing cocky or like there was no problem.

I’ll try and just give you a round-up, but basically I asked him to explain himself and he said he can’t, he said he thought she would be helpful for some stuff at work and he saved her name as a different name because he knew I’d be pissed off. I asked why would he think I’d be pissed off and he said because I didn’t like the way SHE behaved at the wedding in question and I’d told him to stop talking to her after that. I said no, it was the way HE behaved at the wedding and he knew fine well that was the reason: he had a tantrum because the girl he fancied slept with some random man. He pulled a face like that wasn’t what happened.

Sorry this is all just word vomit that I’m trying to get out so it’s badly written and may not make sense.

I said I never told him to stop contact with her, but it been my understanding that he’d seen her for what she was that night and then also been embarrassed about his own behaviour in relation/reaction to her, and therefore decided to cut contact with her himself. He said OK yes maybe that’s true. He never at any point denied having his head turned by her and was adamant that nothing ever happened between them - I said I never actually thought that it had, but it felt very much like it could’ve done if she’d wanted it to. I said I thought that he had realised that night that he was nothing special to her as she was acting the way she was with lots of men there, and therefore realised that she was not worth causing problems in his marriage for. He neither confirmed or denied.

He quickly into the conversation (might’ve been straight away tbh) admitted that he’d made her a non-executive director at his company about 12 months ago. Didn’t tell me because he knew I’d be annoyed. I said so you have prioritised having contact with her over our marriage - he said no but pretty much admitted he could see how he might be prioritising his business over our marriage.

He was very much drip feeding info during this conversation.
I asked how frequently he contacts her and he said he didn’t know, maybe twice a month (bearing in mind I have his phone in my hand and have their conversation open and am scrolling through) - I pointed out Saturday just gone, Friday, Thursday, Wednesday, Monday is not just twice a month - he was all “That’s just all about the same issue though”

He later says it’s worth mentioning that he was also in contact with her before he asked her to be a non-exec director, he said maybe 3 years ago. Turns out what he actually meant by that is that they’ve been in contact constantly over those last 3 years. Why didn’t he tell me? Because he knew I wouldn’t like it. Why do it then?! Of course “I don’t know.”
He says he’ll sack her off. I said it’s not about that! She’s done nothing wrong here, it’s him who is in the wrong and he knows it otherwise it wouldn’t be such a big secret. “I know, I know” bill shit from him.
I said I can’t say for definite, but I do think if he’d have said to me 3 years ago “I think Steph would be able to help me with XYZ for starting up this company, would you have any issue with me contacting her?” I don’t think I’d have minded. But looking at the amount of contact now, I wouldn’t have been OK with that because it is a lot.

He said all their chat is work related and tbf it is, but he made out like the work she’s done for his business and it’s actually way more than that. The conversations are all above board, but they’re about his work, her work, people they used to work with etc.

I asked if they speak on the phone, he said no, just a couple of times over the last year and other people were on the calls.

About an hour has past by this point and I’m still scrolling back through the messages (which go back to 2022 on the app), not reading them all because they’re boring, just skimming a few. There are several where she’s invited him to see F1 and various other different sports things - he said they were to do with her work and she invited him as she thought they’d be good networking opportunities for him - he said no most of the time, but on a few occasions said “I’m in!” but then didn’t actually go.

At no point is he saying he’s seen her, so I eventually ask if he has. It’s like do I have to ask every fucking question possible to get the info out of him?! He said “Yes, once I think. At a conference.” You think? “Well I don’t want to say yes definitely only once and then there be another occasion I’ve forgotten about.” I said well you better think then and he reiterated he thinks just that once, he can’t remember any other occasions, but if there were others they were all work related.

I keep scrolling back and see a voice note from her, which is all “Hi mate, you ok? Don’t know if you still live near X city, but I’m around there tomorrow if you want to meet?” I asked if he went and he said no he didn’t think so. You don’t think so? No, I’ve not been on a night out with her or anything.
Few more messages, Me: “So you don’t meet her in X town near where we live?” (Nothing actually said they had, I just thought I’d try and catch him out) Him: “Oh yes actually me and ‘Tim’ (business partner) went to meet him and Derek (her work colleague) but that was in the day, not night and it was still about work” At this point I’m ready to start smashing things as I’m so enraged.

Theres a Twitter link he’s sent her so I open it - very boring work thing, but then when that’s finished his Twitter feed shows porn after porn after porn, there’s nothing else on there other than porn - nothing too horrific from what I saw, but plenty of wank fodder. He claims he watches them when he’s away with work.
I say is there anything else you want to confess to? He says no but obviously I can’t necessarily trust that because he’s not exactly been forthcoming. So I sat with his phone for a while longer and found nothing else incriminating, but Tbh I got bored after a while, because it doesn’t matter if there is because what I’ve found is bad enough.

I’ve told him I don’t want to be around him and he can think of what he’s going to say to DD because I’m not coming up with excuses for him. I can’t be near him and be nice to him and don’t want DD to think I’m at fault, so he can explain either that he’s done something wrong so I’m angry, or he can fuck off so she doesn’t see me being angry with him. I can’t pretend and I’m not having any of this on me because he is entirely at fault.

Theres plenty more I could say here I’m sure, but I think I’ve written enough for now and those are the highlights.

OP posts:
WinterSunglasses · 26/05/2025 14:12

The non director thing is a real issue. That's a bond he has deliberately set up between them to maintain contact.

I know you said otherwise stuff was fine, but honestly, are you prepared to have this for the rest of your life? Will he want to invite her to your child's wedding? His retirement party?

Might be time to say 'okay, Steph wins. She can have you. You need to move out and we can sort out a divorce and you can work with her the whole time. I'm done with this ongoing deception because I can't see an end to it'.

💐

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 26/05/2025 14:21

Crikey OP. I'm so sorry. It does sound like a lot came out of that conversation that you have to process.

The non executive director thing... Does he have any others? Are you one?

I'd be inclined to do a bit of matching up texts and dates and spending..or, and I'm not sure its the right thing to do, to ring her up and get her explanation, just to see what she says to see if the story matches. Maybe other pps will have advice on this point.

I don't think I'd be able to get past this unless he sacked her as non exec director - even if it is completely innocent.. but it's hard to trust if he's been secretive. Flowers

I think you are right to ask for some space whilst you think this through.

SpryCat · 26/05/2025 14:29

I’m so sorry @Sus808 he has never been able to break the link between them. You had to drag every detail from him because he wouldn’t offer any details unless you specifically asked for them. That seems very suspect, like he was scared he might say too much so waited for you to ask him before answering. He has proven, over and over he is not to be trusted, and he is not worth the aggravation, you will never trust him again and it will affect your self esteem and MH.

LastPostISwear · 26/05/2025 14:30

Sus808 · 26/05/2025 14:03

UPDATE

Right I’ve had it out with him. DD is out all day, so this morning I said to him “Can I have your phone a minute?” he handed it over willingly, I opened up WhatsApp and said “Who is ‘Tesco Dave’?” He admitted straight away it was Steph in a “Shit, you’ve got me” kind of way, nothing cocky or like there was no problem.

I’ll try and just give you a round-up, but basically I asked him to explain himself and he said he can’t, he said he thought she would be helpful for some stuff at work and he saved her name as a different name because he knew I’d be pissed off. I asked why would he think I’d be pissed off and he said because I didn’t like the way SHE behaved at the wedding in question and I’d told him to stop talking to her after that. I said no, it was the way HE behaved at the wedding and he knew fine well that was the reason: he had a tantrum because the girl he fancied slept with some random man. He pulled a face like that wasn’t what happened.

Sorry this is all just word vomit that I’m trying to get out so it’s badly written and may not make sense.

I said I never told him to stop contact with her, but it been my understanding that he’d seen her for what she was that night and then also been embarrassed about his own behaviour in relation/reaction to her, and therefore decided to cut contact with her himself. He said OK yes maybe that’s true. He never at any point denied having his head turned by her and was adamant that nothing ever happened between them - I said I never actually thought that it had, but it felt very much like it could’ve done if she’d wanted it to. I said I thought that he had realised that night that he was nothing special to her as she was acting the way she was with lots of men there, and therefore realised that she was not worth causing problems in his marriage for. He neither confirmed or denied.

He quickly into the conversation (might’ve been straight away tbh) admitted that he’d made her a non-executive director at his company about 12 months ago. Didn’t tell me because he knew I’d be annoyed. I said so you have prioritised having contact with her over our marriage - he said no but pretty much admitted he could see how he might be prioritising his business over our marriage.

He was very much drip feeding info during this conversation.
I asked how frequently he contacts her and he said he didn’t know, maybe twice a month (bearing in mind I have his phone in my hand and have their conversation open and am scrolling through) - I pointed out Saturday just gone, Friday, Thursday, Wednesday, Monday is not just twice a month - he was all “That’s just all about the same issue though”

He later says it’s worth mentioning that he was also in contact with her before he asked her to be a non-exec director, he said maybe 3 years ago. Turns out what he actually meant by that is that they’ve been in contact constantly over those last 3 years. Why didn’t he tell me? Because he knew I wouldn’t like it. Why do it then?! Of course “I don’t know.”
He says he’ll sack her off. I said it’s not about that! She’s done nothing wrong here, it’s him who is in the wrong and he knows it otherwise it wouldn’t be such a big secret. “I know, I know” bill shit from him.
I said I can’t say for definite, but I do think if he’d have said to me 3 years ago “I think Steph would be able to help me with XYZ for starting up this company, would you have any issue with me contacting her?” I don’t think I’d have minded. But looking at the amount of contact now, I wouldn’t have been OK with that because it is a lot.

He said all their chat is work related and tbf it is, but he made out like the work she’s done for his business and it’s actually way more than that. The conversations are all above board, but they’re about his work, her work, people they used to work with etc.

I asked if they speak on the phone, he said no, just a couple of times over the last year and other people were on the calls.

About an hour has past by this point and I’m still scrolling back through the messages (which go back to 2022 on the app), not reading them all because they’re boring, just skimming a few. There are several where she’s invited him to see F1 and various other different sports things - he said they were to do with her work and she invited him as she thought they’d be good networking opportunities for him - he said no most of the time, but on a few occasions said “I’m in!” but then didn’t actually go.

At no point is he saying he’s seen her, so I eventually ask if he has. It’s like do I have to ask every fucking question possible to get the info out of him?! He said “Yes, once I think. At a conference.” You think? “Well I don’t want to say yes definitely only once and then there be another occasion I’ve forgotten about.” I said well you better think then and he reiterated he thinks just that once, he can’t remember any other occasions, but if there were others they were all work related.

I keep scrolling back and see a voice note from her, which is all “Hi mate, you ok? Don’t know if you still live near X city, but I’m around there tomorrow if you want to meet?” I asked if he went and he said no he didn’t think so. You don’t think so? No, I’ve not been on a night out with her or anything.
Few more messages, Me: “So you don’t meet her in X town near where we live?” (Nothing actually said they had, I just thought I’d try and catch him out) Him: “Oh yes actually me and ‘Tim’ (business partner) went to meet him and Derek (her work colleague) but that was in the day, not night and it was still about work” At this point I’m ready to start smashing things as I’m so enraged.

Theres a Twitter link he’s sent her so I open it - very boring work thing, but then when that’s finished his Twitter feed shows porn after porn after porn, there’s nothing else on there other than porn - nothing too horrific from what I saw, but plenty of wank fodder. He claims he watches them when he’s away with work.
I say is there anything else you want to confess to? He says no but obviously I can’t necessarily trust that because he’s not exactly been forthcoming. So I sat with his phone for a while longer and found nothing else incriminating, but Tbh I got bored after a while, because it doesn’t matter if there is because what I’ve found is bad enough.

I’ve told him I don’t want to be around him and he can think of what he’s going to say to DD because I’m not coming up with excuses for him. I can’t be near him and be nice to him and don’t want DD to think I’m at fault, so he can explain either that he’s done something wrong so I’m angry, or he can fuck off so she doesn’t see me being angry with him. I can’t pretend and I’m not having any of this on me because he is entirely at fault.

Theres plenty more I could say here I’m sure, but I think I’ve written enough for now and those are the highlights.

I’m sorry. That sounds really rough and you don’t deserve that.

I do want to ask, though: did you discuss whether porn use is acceptable prior to this conversation?

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