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DH messages from “Pick me!”

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Sus808 · 24/05/2025 11:54

Here I am, being that wife who finds messages on her husbands computer.

FFS, just finished typing and noticed how long this is, so sorry about that and I realise many can’t be arsed to read something this long!

Back story: DH used to work with this woman (single with a young kid), very good time girl, in there with all the men being one of the lads if you will, first one to suggest shots, “let’s all go to the casino/strip club”, full of ‘bants’… you get the picture. DH started to get mentionitis about her a lot, they’d talk a lot - this was pre covid so not as much Teams talk etc, but like catch up in the car on long journeys which centred around work but lots of lighthearted personal talk too (I know this because I was once in the car with him during one of these calls - she said on that call that he was being weird, which I assumed because I was in the car he wasn’t being as forthcoming with his chat as usual. I could feel around this time that he was basically having his head turned, but also felt she probably wouldn’t be physically attracted to him as she’s quite a lot more attractive than DH

Sorry realising this is getting long, but want to paint a full picture

She also came to our evening wedding reception and a lot of people mentioned to me how she was a bit handsy and flirtatious with DH (bearing in mind I’d said nothing about her to anyone). We then went to another wedding and she was there and sat out our table - she was OTT with all the men there, sitting on knees etc, getting drunk - I think at this point (maybe due to my comments and looks from others) DH realised what she was like and that she was like this with lots of men, not just him. She went up to her room with some random (much younger) man and I reckon DH was jealous of this as he got hammered and behaved very badly when we got back to the room.

They didn’t actually work together by this point but were still in the same industry. I told DH that the friendship/relationship with her made me uncomfortable and they stopped contact then. He hasn’t mentioned her and has been coy/awkward about her ever since. I saw a few years ago that she’d messaged him on Facebook messenger and he’d not replied. I’ve casually asked him a couple of times if he ever hears from her and he’s said no.

About two months ago DH and I were discussing a new phrase we’d heard: a “pick me” girl - I said that (let’s call her) Steph came to my mind straight away when I heard that phrase as she was the epitome of it. DH looked awkward and said nothing and that conversation ended.

Right finally we are up to today! DH went out and I needed to use the printer so went into his office to find his computer still logged on with all sorts opened on the screen. A WhatsApp message popped up on a group chat with his mates and it looked to be something pornographic so I scrolled through so see what kind of conversation they’d been having - turned out to be nothing but I noticed the contact beneath was Steph! Although named as Dave. I just recognised her picture. So I’ve scrolled through the messages and he’s been having regular contact with her since this time last year (that’s how far back the messages go) - now most of these messages are work related - they work in the same industry and have been discussing work related stuff in a very casual manner, asking about ex colleagues who have applied to work at their place etc, nothing flirtatious whatsoever. But they have been chatting at least fortnightly for a year and he’s not mentioned it. Also there’s “Are you at such and such conference today? Cool, I’ll come and find you there.”

I have looked her up on social media just now and she appears to be in a long term relationship with a woman, so looks like I’ve got nothing to worry about on that front (although I probably never did have anything to worry about regarding her interest in my DH), but obviously I’m pissed off that he’s been secretly in touch with this woman for so long and not said a word - because he knows I’ll be pissed off. The work chat looks innocent, but neither is it necessary - just like “Are you using X system? Is it any good” “John has applied for a job with us, what’s your opinion on him?” “Can you share my LinkedIn post? Cheers mate.”

I shouldn’t have snooped but I have. DH left computer logged on so isn’t being secretive, but Steph is saved as Dave and they’ve been chatting even this morning. DH is home now and is downstairs while I am upstairs. I keep going into the office hoping she’ll respond to his latest message (from this morning) so I can say I’ve seen her pop up, but she’s not done. What can I say to DH to get this conversation started without admitting that I’ve snooped? And what do I even want the outcome to be?!

OP posts:
Arrestedforit · 29/05/2025 20:43

Oh dear God @Sus808 just leave him. You are not happy, and don’t trust him. Why are seeking permission from strangers?

MsDogLady · 29/05/2025 21:24

So he joined the Cliché Club and spilled the least amount of information he thought he could get away with, and you had to dig deep to get more (but likely not all) of the truth. I too figured that he and ‘Dave’ had much more contact than he was acknowledging.

@Sus808, he has repeatedly brought Steph into your marriage in audacious, humiliating ways. He clearly feels a long-term connection that he has been unwilling to break, to your harm and detriment. In this latest incarnation, he created a power imbalance in your relationship by secretly interacting with her and then sneaking her into his business. He did the same previously when he harbored an obsession for her that culminated in explosive jealousy. I do wonder if you’ve ever had any semblance of an equitable marriage.

Now this practiced liar says he is planning to drop Steph via message and has blocked her? I am skeptical that he has really cut her off for good. Regardless, for me it is too little too late. The havoc he has wrought would make my staying impossible.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 29/05/2025 21:30

The worst part for me was the bit where he'd made her a director! But all the while saying he hadn't been in contact. Like What the actual fuck. My eyes popped out my head when I read it!

I would leave him. He's gaslighting you. Only giving you answers when he knows he cannot lie any more but offers nothing more.

SpryCat · 29/05/2025 22:53

Can he just sack her? Is it legal? So he’s blocked her on social media, I guess once everything settles down, he will start talking to her again….Like he did before.

Christmaschildcare · 30/05/2025 23:14

So sorry @Sus808 😞

Hedwigowl · 31/05/2025 05:59

cooldarkroom · 29/05/2025 20:06

This is more smoke & mirrors, of course he hasn’t sacked her. They have been talking & have come up with some kind of clean up plan
Other people will have seen this playing out, its is totally humiliating.
Tell him not one single word of truth is coming out of his mouth, & to just go fucking far away, with her, without her, it doesn’t make any difference at this point

I agree. It's bullshit he's sacking her. In 6 months time you'll find another trail and realise she was just moved to a new role and it'll be the same old shit. He has shown you his cards. He doesn't respect you or care about how you feel at all.

As a pp said, he is infatuated and I don't think he will do anything to remove this woman from your lives.

HopingForTheBest25 · 31/05/2025 19:49

I wouldn't be able to get over the extent of this deception - he's put her on the board of his company, he's given her money! Money that should be going into your own household!
I think there'll be loads more to this that you'll gradually discover and it'll be death by a thousand cuts. IMO you know enough now about the kind of man he is, where his priorities lie. You deserve better than a man who tells lie after lie and who has spent years hankering after another woman.

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