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I need to get something off my chest

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FairPlayer274 · 09/05/2025 00:38

It’s a bit of a long story, but bear with me.

Without giving away too many details about my job, I basically go away to work for two days a month, or for longer for special training. Recently I went for a week long course, and I was catching a certain vibe from one of the instructors, who works with me… Like at one point I thought he was flirting but I wasn’t sure, and he asked me about my relationship status (I’m married with a young child, which I told him.)

At the beginning of the week, he’d sent me a friend request, which I accepted. The service/Wi-Fi was spotty, so I didn’t get his subsequent message there until the last day of the course, when we were testing out. (Thankfully, he wasn’t the one scoring my test. We are equals, at least, but I wanted to be sure I actually earned my certification in the skill he was teaching, you know?) The message basically asked what would I do if a certain coworker matching his description might possibly be attracted to me. But then…

Let me stress to you that I regret my reply, but at the risk of being crucified on here, I’m gonna share it anyway… I told him that if that was the case, it might possibly be mutual, but that nothing could ever come of it (given my marital status.) I don’t know why I said that. I shouldn’t have said that.

He wrote back, essentially, that he understood and respects that, but that he’d “be there” if I ever changed my mind, winky face. The conversation then turned back to work related things. I thought that was the end of it. Nope.

He’s started flirting with me at work. I should be angry that he’s not being respectful, but honestly I’m such a slut for attention that I can’t help but enjoy it. I’m being strictly polite and professional back, but it’s good, smooth flirting, if I’m being honest, and I think he can tell it gets me flustered. It doesn’t help that I’m having intrusive thoughts about how I’m put up in my own hotel room on the occasions we work, and how easy it would be to find an excuse to invite him in… (I’m NOT going to do it. But I’m having trouble not thinking about it, and I have a lot of guilt.)

The worst part is, the day I read that initial message, DH texted me that I was being quiet. I screen-shotted Coworker’s message (cropping out my reply) and sent it to him, and told him I was wondering if I had really earned my certification. We had a mini shit-talking session about how unprofessional it was, and DH made fun of the phrasing. I didn’t mention my response, and deleted it from my phone. It’s been eating at me.

And the thing is, DH and I aren’t even strictly sexually monogamous… though we do have limitations for one another. One of his is that I can’t have extramarital sex with the same man more than once, and it can’t be anyone I interact with on a regular basis (to prevent emotional connections from forming.) I have zero desire to go out and get some strange, but this limitation makes it so Coworker is out of bounds, so to speak…

And I already know the hypothetical, forbidden sex isn’t even likely to be as good as what I have at home— I’ve been with a LOT of men, and very few of them were good at it, and none as good as DH… I guess the idea of doing it with Coworker is alluring because of the taboo-ness of a workplace affair.

Also, I’m thinking maybe it’s that I miss feeling desired, and experiencing New Relationship Energy, like I did when I was younger and dating/sleeping around? I’m not sure how to go about asking DH to help me feel desired like that again, though. Like, I “flirt” with DH at home, and I’m always the one initiating the sex, but he rarely initiates with me, and he never flirts first…(Even if I did field that request/express that feeling tactfully, I would question if he really desired me when he did those things, or if he was just trying to placate me… is that insane ?) I feel loved. Just not particularly sexy, if you know what I mean?

Anyway, I’m just struggling with these feelings, and I just needed to get this off my chest. Thanks for listening, if you’ve read this far.

OP posts:
S0j0urn4r · 09/05/2025 01:28

Don't shit where you eat.
Talk to your DH.

Kosenrufugirl · 09/05/2025 01:36

I think you are standing to lose too much if you go with the flow with your co-worker. On the other hand, he will just brush off the dust once he had his share of the fun. I wouldn't go there

FairPlayer274 · 09/05/2025 01:43

I definitely won’t. The last thing I need is him opening his mouth and then there goes all the respect I have in this male-dominated industry… not to mention that it’d blow up my marriage if DH ever found out.

I just wish I could stop thinking about it. Probably doesn’t help that DH has been out of commission due to a waxing incident, recently… I’m wound up 😣

OP posts:
SallyDraperGetInHere · 09/05/2025 01:51

Work is work. Don’t let your personal boundaries get blurred by work. Your personal life is up to you; but do not let that skirt near home.

Ilovelurchers · 09/05/2025 02:01

The fact that you are non-monogamous is a bit of a game-changer to be honest - but I think to give useful advice people probably need to understand how the non-monogamy works in your relationship.

How do you find the guys you do have sex with, if they can't be people you know? Does this actually happen in practice, or has he just given you a purely theoretical pass? And what are the rules for your husband - are the agreed boundaries for his behaviour different from those for yours? Do you have sex with others as a couple? Is he in any sense aroused by the idea of you with other guys? (Cuckolding type fantasy/play).

I am not simply being nosy (I know it sounds like it, and like I am a weird masturbating guy in a raincoat - I promise I am not) but the advice I would give a friend in an open relationship, in this situation, is very different from the advice I would give a friend in a closed one.

FairPlayer274 · 09/05/2025 02:24

Ilovelurchers · 09/05/2025 02:01

The fact that you are non-monogamous is a bit of a game-changer to be honest - but I think to give useful advice people probably need to understand how the non-monogamy works in your relationship.

How do you find the guys you do have sex with, if they can't be people you know? Does this actually happen in practice, or has he just given you a purely theoretical pass? And what are the rules for your husband - are the agreed boundaries for his behaviour different from those for yours? Do you have sex with others as a couple? Is he in any sense aroused by the idea of you with other guys? (Cuckolding type fantasy/play).

I am not simply being nosy (I know it sounds like it, and like I am a weird masturbating guy in a raincoat - I promise I am not) but the advice I would give a friend in an open relationship, in this situation, is very different from the advice I would give a friend in a closed one.

If I wanted to get with a stranger, I’d probably hop on Fetlife or a dating app and have one ready to go in a minute… men are easy like that. But like I said, the statistical probability of the sex being better than what I have at home already is slim, and I haven’t sought that out.

My limits for DH:

  • no exes
  • nobody crazy
  • no prostitutes
  • must take all reasonable precautions to prevent STDs and pregnancy
  • no kissing
  • must cease contact if he starts to catch feelings for the other person

His are that I can have sex with other women as I please, and other men if it’s something we do together (like at an event, party, threesome, etc., which we do every once in a while), or single instances with strangers whom I’ll likely never see again. No romantic feelings should be permitted to develop.

He likes to see me enjoy myself, but I don’t think it’s a fetish for him to see me with other men in particular. I’d honestly like to see him with another woman, but we have yet to make that happen.

lol’ing at the raincoat bit

OP posts:
TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 09/05/2025 07:25

Why bother getting married if you both fuck other people and you enjoy flirting/being desired/having your ego boosted?

SelinaPlace · 09/05/2025 07:33

Given the marital limits you describe, I’d have thought you would be experienced in shutting people down without a second thought?

OchreRaven · 09/05/2025 07:56

Considering your update on your open marriage I would not be feeling bad about your response to this man.

You were truthful and told him you were attracted to him and if things were different you would have pursued it. You could have easily twisted the scenario in your mind to fit the requirements to have extra marital sex. But you value what you have with your husband and you know it’s crossing the lines you set.

Where I think you went wrong is you should have either never told your husband this man made a play for you, or you should have been truthful about your response.

I think the reason you are feeling so guilty is because it sounds like you and your H are very honest with each other, to the point you can accept you will be attracted to other people, and strong enough to allow each other to go outside the marriage. But the limits you have set are to protect that relationship.

What you are doing now with this man is beginning to jeopardise your marriage because you are building a secret world where you flirt, compliment and fantasise about each other and are building intimacy to the point it’s become addictive and now you are questioning whether your marriage is fulfilling you. This is a cheaters mentality.

You need to set clear boundaries with your work colleague and stick to them. Once your need for a dopamine hit has passed, if you still feel guilty talk to your husband. He seems like the type of person who would appreciate the honesty and you haven’t crossed any lines you can’t come back from yet. It might give you both the drive to appreciate what you have and make the other feel desired.

InALonelyWorld · 09/05/2025 08:25

This reads like something out of an erotic novel or old fashioned porno. Can't say i understand the mindframe of people in this type of "open" relationship but it's your normal so I won't judge.

It seems your DH has more power over this situation as your rules are very different to your DH's and it seems like he does have the option to have a regular hook up, without feelings of course, with anyone he wishes but you are limited to searching sites for strangers as a one time only thing. I don't think your doing anything wrong with your colleague even if it doesnt fit your allocated rules.

However i do think its unreasonable to secretly flirt and fantasise about this man but then sit ridiculing him and his feelings/messages with your DH. Not only are you being disrespectful here but your also not being honest with either person. It seems you are bordering on mentionitis and possibly blurring lines by making out hes a safe male with a crush who you arent interested in, when actually it's your forbidden fruit.

indianques · 09/05/2025 08:39

So he can fuck other women, but you can only fuck other men if he's there? That's quite a disparity in the rules. Are you Bi? If not, the permission to have sex with a woman is meaningless. If you are, then why does he suppose that you wouldn't catch feelings for a woman?

The whole thing is fucked up in my opinion. Why did you even bother getting married when you aren't committed to each other?

You are starting to get feelings for your co worker and you've not even shagged yet. Imagine how much stronger feelings will get, once you're being intimate.

I'd hazard a guess that your DH doesn't initiate much sex with you because he's getting absolutely tons of it elsewhere. He has a free pass, you'd be a fool to think he isn't using it.

Just move on, and try to find someone who you're so in love with, that the very thought of him having sex with another woman is heartbreaking.

WakingUpToReality · 09/05/2025 09:00

Wait so your rules for each other are different? Are his more strict for you? You said: or single instances with strangers whom I’ll likely never see again.

I know that’s not the point of the conversation really, I’m just curious.

User37482 · 09/05/2025 09:04

Why don’t you just expand your allowable to include men? Then like your husband you can shag whoever you want.

I don’t get why he’s allowed to shag women but you aren’t allowed to shag men. I would never have signed up to that. I mean I wouldn’t sign up to any of it but if I were minded to I wouldn’t have agreed to such a disadvantageous position.

NameChangedOfc · 09/05/2025 09:55

What a mess...
How old are you all?

thoughtsthoughtsthoughts · 09/05/2025 10:33

You're very greedy!
Tell your DH the whole truth, he might surprise you. He might have someone in mind that breaches the rules, too.

Grimtastic · 09/05/2025 10:36

I’d be pissed off that he thought I lacked integrity and would even consider cheating.

That would instantly make me think he was repulsive and I’d lose respect for him (and lose it even more if he is in a relationship).

Ichangemyname · 09/05/2025 10:43

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 09/05/2025 07:25

Why bother getting married if you both fuck other people and you enjoy flirting/being desired/having your ego boosted?

You do realise that this world takes all sorts to make the world go around?

It's not my thing but I hardly think judging people for what they do and they arent hurting anyone, doesn't warrant that comment? Op has a crush and she isn't doing anything about it. She just wanted to let off steam. Their lifestyle is their business.

thoughtsthoughtsthoughts · 09/05/2025 10:55

To be fair there are legal and financial incentives to getting married @TheCountofMountingCrispBags
Marriage doesn't mean what it used to these days, no more til death for example.

BangersAndGnash · 09/05/2025 11:03

Dangerous games enter dangerous territory.

To live as you and your DH do you must have a clear understanding of boundaries and the importance of boundaries.

Put a stop now to Mr Instructor: tell him you hope he is not flirting with you because the no meant no and you have a professional relationship to maintain. Block and grey rock him if he continues

SaltyandSweet · 09/05/2025 11:14

S0j0urn4r · 09/05/2025 01:28

Don't shit where you eat.
Talk to your DH.

This, 100%.

Panamacatinahat · 09/05/2025 11:17

FairPlayer274 · 09/05/2025 01:43

I definitely won’t. The last thing I need is him opening his mouth and then there goes all the respect I have in this male-dominated industry… not to mention that it’d blow up my marriage if DH ever found out.

I just wish I could stop thinking about it. Probably doesn’t help that DH has been out of commission due to a waxing incident, recently… I’m wound up 😣

He’s probably already talking about it with his peers. Very embarrassing for you. You’ll be judged and he won’t. Stay well away and concentrate on your marriage.

sesquipedalian · 09/05/2025 11:22

OP, one of your DH’s rules is that “No romantic feelings should be permitted to develop.” By your own admission, “I’m having intrusive thoughts about how I’m put up in my own hotel room on the occasions we work, and how easy it would be to find an excuse to invite him in.” You know this has to stop - so stop it. Send your co-worker a message to say that it all has to stop, then delete him from your phone. I couldn’t contemplate the sort of open relationship that you engage in, but each to their own, you have rules that you have both set up that you are in grave danger of breaking. Be professional and keep this chap at arm’s length, otherwise it will all end in tears.

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 09/05/2025 11:25

Ichangemyname · 09/05/2025 10:43

You do realise that this world takes all sorts to make the world go around?

It's not my thing but I hardly think judging people for what they do and they arent hurting anyone, doesn't warrant that comment? Op has a crush and she isn't doing anything about it. She just wanted to let off steam. Their lifestyle is their business.

I asked why bother getting married? Makes a mockery of the institution

IPM · 09/05/2025 11:32

For me personally, me or my husband not fucking other people would help me feel more desired in my marriage.

I screen-shotted Coworker’s message (cropping out my reply) and sent it to him, and told him I was wondering if I had really earned my certification. We had a mini shit-talking session about how unprofessional it was,

This was a shocking thing to do considering you deleted your reply.

Why show him at all if you're not going to be totally honest?

indianques · 09/05/2025 11:40

This is what me and DH would label FAFO (fuck around and find out).

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