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I need to get something off my chest

179 replies

FairPlayer274 · 09/05/2025 00:38

It’s a bit of a long story, but bear with me.

Without giving away too many details about my job, I basically go away to work for two days a month, or for longer for special training. Recently I went for a week long course, and I was catching a certain vibe from one of the instructors, who works with me… Like at one point I thought he was flirting but I wasn’t sure, and he asked me about my relationship status (I’m married with a young child, which I told him.)

At the beginning of the week, he’d sent me a friend request, which I accepted. The service/Wi-Fi was spotty, so I didn’t get his subsequent message there until the last day of the course, when we were testing out. (Thankfully, he wasn’t the one scoring my test. We are equals, at least, but I wanted to be sure I actually earned my certification in the skill he was teaching, you know?) The message basically asked what would I do if a certain coworker matching his description might possibly be attracted to me. But then…

Let me stress to you that I regret my reply, but at the risk of being crucified on here, I’m gonna share it anyway… I told him that if that was the case, it might possibly be mutual, but that nothing could ever come of it (given my marital status.) I don’t know why I said that. I shouldn’t have said that.

He wrote back, essentially, that he understood and respects that, but that he’d “be there” if I ever changed my mind, winky face. The conversation then turned back to work related things. I thought that was the end of it. Nope.

He’s started flirting with me at work. I should be angry that he’s not being respectful, but honestly I’m such a slut for attention that I can’t help but enjoy it. I’m being strictly polite and professional back, but it’s good, smooth flirting, if I’m being honest, and I think he can tell it gets me flustered. It doesn’t help that I’m having intrusive thoughts about how I’m put up in my own hotel room on the occasions we work, and how easy it would be to find an excuse to invite him in… (I’m NOT going to do it. But I’m having trouble not thinking about it, and I have a lot of guilt.)

The worst part is, the day I read that initial message, DH texted me that I was being quiet. I screen-shotted Coworker’s message (cropping out my reply) and sent it to him, and told him I was wondering if I had really earned my certification. We had a mini shit-talking session about how unprofessional it was, and DH made fun of the phrasing. I didn’t mention my response, and deleted it from my phone. It’s been eating at me.

And the thing is, DH and I aren’t even strictly sexually monogamous… though we do have limitations for one another. One of his is that I can’t have extramarital sex with the same man more than once, and it can’t be anyone I interact with on a regular basis (to prevent emotional connections from forming.) I have zero desire to go out and get some strange, but this limitation makes it so Coworker is out of bounds, so to speak…

And I already know the hypothetical, forbidden sex isn’t even likely to be as good as what I have at home— I’ve been with a LOT of men, and very few of them were good at it, and none as good as DH… I guess the idea of doing it with Coworker is alluring because of the taboo-ness of a workplace affair.

Also, I’m thinking maybe it’s that I miss feeling desired, and experiencing New Relationship Energy, like I did when I was younger and dating/sleeping around? I’m not sure how to go about asking DH to help me feel desired like that again, though. Like, I “flirt” with DH at home, and I’m always the one initiating the sex, but he rarely initiates with me, and he never flirts first…(Even if I did field that request/express that feeling tactfully, I would question if he really desired me when he did those things, or if he was just trying to placate me… is that insane ?) I feel loved. Just not particularly sexy, if you know what I mean?

Anyway, I’m just struggling with these feelings, and I just needed to get this off my chest. Thanks for listening, if you’ve read this far.

OP posts:
Biropens · 30/05/2025 16:02

Right ok

so all this is a very very rare and sporadic thing that your aged husband partakes in with just one person ever,

and you also do it very very occasionally

ok. Goodness, all sounds a bit lacklustre tbh!

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 16:10

Biropens · 30/05/2025 16:02

Right ok

so all this is a very very rare and sporadic thing that your aged husband partakes in with just one person ever,

and you also do it very very occasionally

ok. Goodness, all sounds a bit lacklustre tbh!

That’s why I was saying, the non-monogamy thing is a pretty minor part of our lives and I’m quite certain it wasn’t the reason for his lack of initiation with me. I just think he got lazy/complacent. Not sure what changed to make him start back up again, but I’m definitely not complaining about it.

Confused118 · 30/05/2025 16:18

Really enjoyed this thread, seems very honest about the pitfalls of non monogamy too. We don't have that sort of relationship at the moment but OH said if we ever did then he'd prefer me to have a long term partner, not any one night only relationships, but OP's rules are the other way, so been good to read about other people situations.

OP - hope you're feeling better.

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 30/05/2025 16:18

LastPostISwear - are you the OP? I’m confused..

Biropens · 30/05/2025 16:19

**My limits for DH:

  • no exes
  • nobody crazy
  • no prostitutes
  • must take all reasonable precautions to prevent STDs and pregnancy
  • no kissing
  • must cease contact if he starts to catch feelings for the other person

given his age and fact that he can’t pay for it and only ever happened with one woman happy for a roll around…. I don’t think you have much to worry about!

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 30/05/2025 16:26

FortyElephants · 30/05/2025 15:22

Agreed. I could probably give advice but I'm not going to, because feeding people on mumsnet dribs and drabs of salacious detail about your non monogamous life is attention seeking, not help seeking

I’ve just realised this is the poster who constantly complains about her husband on here - your relationship is not working love, accept it.

Biropens · 30/05/2025 16:27

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 30/05/2025 16:26

I’ve just realised this is the poster who constantly complains about her husband on here - your relationship is not working love, accept it.

Yep, I think the Op needs some good friends and more stuff to fill her days

TaupeRaven · 30/05/2025 16:34

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 30/05/2025 16:26

I’ve just realised this is the poster who constantly complains about her husband on here - your relationship is not working love, accept it.

While also going to great lengths (no pun intended) to tell us how great he is in bed, and how she pines for him when she's away, and how hard his penis is.

Someone was just needing a bit of attention today, I think

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 17:17

We’re doing just fine. Everyone has their ups and downs, minor annoyances, lulls, etc with their spouse. He’s made changes.

My days are very full…That’s probably why I have no friends.

I am going to mention that he’s good in bed when talking about why a woman would want casual sex with him, about his erections if someone assumes he needs viagra, and about pining for him if we’re talking about my opportunity to sleep with strangers, yeah.

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 17:47

My days are very full…That’s probably why I have no friends.

oh Op

if anyone needs a friend… it’s you

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 17:56

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 17:47

My days are very full…That’s probably why I have no friends.

oh Op

if anyone needs a friend… it’s you

I’ll probably make some when DD goes off to school and I have more free time

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 17:58

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 17:56

I’ll probably make some when DD goes off to school and I have more free time

Time to get yourself a friend op?

Life must be lonely

no wonder your thread history is as it is.

this explains a lot

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 18:01

It’s just that friendships take time and energy to maintain, and I just don’t have any space for that in my life rn. My family and a little bit of NSA online conversation are good enough for now

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 18:11

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 18:01

It’s just that friendships take time and energy to maintain, and I just don’t have any space for that in my life rn. My family and a little bit of NSA online conversation are good enough for now

I’ve ended up feeling very sorry for you op

Feelingdownbutnotout · 30/05/2025 18:30

Did you actually have a wedding ceremony and exchange vows?
I take it if you did " forsaking all others" wasn't part of them.

If you want an open relationship then fair enough. But the hypocrisy of actually getting married when you have every intention of both being sexually promiscuous just makes a mockery of the institution of marriage.

And why bring childem into a situation where your need for sexual fulfillment from whatever source seems to be your main preoccupation?

real13 · 30/05/2025 18:40

You might as well just sleep with him. I didn’t read all the rules about who’s allowed to do what with whom, but sounds like a fairly open relationship so just go and sleep with him.

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 18:40

@Multiplegums Oh, don’t. I’m happy with the way my life is.

@Feelingdownbutnotout This was already discussed earlier in this thread. Don’t worry; your monogamous marriage is perfectly valid even if non monogamous marriages exist. Nobody is mocking you.

I’m not even going to acknowledge that last bit

FortyElephants · 30/05/2025 18:41

Feelingdownbutnotout · 30/05/2025 18:30

Did you actually have a wedding ceremony and exchange vows?
I take it if you did " forsaking all others" wasn't part of them.

If you want an open relationship then fair enough. But the hypocrisy of actually getting married when you have every intention of both being sexually promiscuous just makes a mockery of the institution of marriage.

And why bring childem into a situation where your need for sexual fulfillment from whatever source seems to be your main preoccupation?

Oh stop it!
other people's marriages are really none of your concern. Marriage is a legal contract. I never promised I would forsake all others, that's a religious tenet. My marriage is both a legal contract, a loving commitment and non monogamous. And that fact has no bearing on anyone else's marriage!

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 18:42

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 18:40

@Multiplegums Oh, don’t. I’m happy with the way my life is.

@Feelingdownbutnotout This was already discussed earlier in this thread. Don’t worry; your monogamous marriage is perfectly valid even if non monogamous marriages exist. Nobody is mocking you.

I’m not even going to acknowledge that last bit

Anyone who doesn’t have any friends

married to someone 25 years older than them who has a roll around with another woman when their wife is away

and starts the threads you do

is someone I definitely feel sorry for

very sorry for

ARainyNightInSoho · 30/05/2025 18:44

There were a couple instances where we sourced individuals from Fetlife to have fun with together

‘Sourced individuals?’ this sounds like an excerpt from a police report.

No judgement at all, I enjoy sex very much. But I don’t identify with almost anything you say about your relationship (s).

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 18:47

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 18:42

Anyone who doesn’t have any friends

married to someone 25 years older than them who has a roll around with another woman when their wife is away

and starts the threads you do

is someone I definitely feel sorry for

very sorry for

I’ll have friendships when I bother to go make and maintain them. For now, my family, my work, and my solitary hobbies are my priority.

I’ve preferred older men since around the age of 18, and I love my DH dearly. Wouldn’t trade him for anyone else. And as discussed, I don’t need sexual monogamy from my partner; him getting with someone else doesn’t bother me at all.

There are definitely other MNs wayy worse off than me you can express your sorry for, I’d you’d like.

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 18:49

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 18:47

I’ll have friendships when I bother to go make and maintain them. For now, my family, my work, and my solitary hobbies are my priority.

I’ve preferred older men since around the age of 18, and I love my DH dearly. Wouldn’t trade him for anyone else. And as discussed, I don’t need sexual monogamy from my partner; him getting with someone else doesn’t bother me at all.

There are definitely other MNs wayy worse off than me you can express your sorry for, I’d you’d like.

Yes there are mumsnetters with terminal illnesses and very sick children and similar

but that doesn’t mean I don’t feel bloomin sorry for a completely friendless person who’s aged husband has rolls around with other women and who until very recently never initiated sex or flirted with her

you don’t want me to pity you but that doesn’t mean I don’t

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 18:52

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 18:49

Yes there are mumsnetters with terminal illnesses and very sick children and similar

but that doesn’t mean I don’t feel bloomin sorry for a completely friendless person who’s aged husband has rolls around with other women and who until very recently never initiated sex or flirted with her

you don’t want me to pity you but that doesn’t mean I don’t

Edited

Fair ‘nuff. Have a great day

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 18:56

And just 28 years old with a 53 year old husband
and not a single friend
Good luck op

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 18:58

I didn’t go to DH with these feelings about the state of the house because I wasn’t sure if they were valid. That’s why I came here, to try to figure that out. I don’t have any friends to go to with this sort of thing, and I don’t want to badmouth DH in any way to any family members; that never goes well long-term