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I need to get something off my chest

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FairPlayer274 · 09/05/2025 00:38

It’s a bit of a long story, but bear with me.

Without giving away too many details about my job, I basically go away to work for two days a month, or for longer for special training. Recently I went for a week long course, and I was catching a certain vibe from one of the instructors, who works with me… Like at one point I thought he was flirting but I wasn’t sure, and he asked me about my relationship status (I’m married with a young child, which I told him.)

At the beginning of the week, he’d sent me a friend request, which I accepted. The service/Wi-Fi was spotty, so I didn’t get his subsequent message there until the last day of the course, when we were testing out. (Thankfully, he wasn’t the one scoring my test. We are equals, at least, but I wanted to be sure I actually earned my certification in the skill he was teaching, you know?) The message basically asked what would I do if a certain coworker matching his description might possibly be attracted to me. But then…

Let me stress to you that I regret my reply, but at the risk of being crucified on here, I’m gonna share it anyway… I told him that if that was the case, it might possibly be mutual, but that nothing could ever come of it (given my marital status.) I don’t know why I said that. I shouldn’t have said that.

He wrote back, essentially, that he understood and respects that, but that he’d “be there” if I ever changed my mind, winky face. The conversation then turned back to work related things. I thought that was the end of it. Nope.

He’s started flirting with me at work. I should be angry that he’s not being respectful, but honestly I’m such a slut for attention that I can’t help but enjoy it. I’m being strictly polite and professional back, but it’s good, smooth flirting, if I’m being honest, and I think he can tell it gets me flustered. It doesn’t help that I’m having intrusive thoughts about how I’m put up in my own hotel room on the occasions we work, and how easy it would be to find an excuse to invite him in… (I’m NOT going to do it. But I’m having trouble not thinking about it, and I have a lot of guilt.)

The worst part is, the day I read that initial message, DH texted me that I was being quiet. I screen-shotted Coworker’s message (cropping out my reply) and sent it to him, and told him I was wondering if I had really earned my certification. We had a mini shit-talking session about how unprofessional it was, and DH made fun of the phrasing. I didn’t mention my response, and deleted it from my phone. It’s been eating at me.

And the thing is, DH and I aren’t even strictly sexually monogamous… though we do have limitations for one another. One of his is that I can’t have extramarital sex with the same man more than once, and it can’t be anyone I interact with on a regular basis (to prevent emotional connections from forming.) I have zero desire to go out and get some strange, but this limitation makes it so Coworker is out of bounds, so to speak…

And I already know the hypothetical, forbidden sex isn’t even likely to be as good as what I have at home— I’ve been with a LOT of men, and very few of them were good at it, and none as good as DH… I guess the idea of doing it with Coworker is alluring because of the taboo-ness of a workplace affair.

Also, I’m thinking maybe it’s that I miss feeling desired, and experiencing New Relationship Energy, like I did when I was younger and dating/sleeping around? I’m not sure how to go about asking DH to help me feel desired like that again, though. Like, I “flirt” with DH at home, and I’m always the one initiating the sex, but he rarely initiates with me, and he never flirts first…(Even if I did field that request/express that feeling tactfully, I would question if he really desired me when he did those things, or if he was just trying to placate me… is that insane ?) I feel loved. Just not particularly sexy, if you know what I mean?

Anyway, I’m just struggling with these feelings, and I just needed to get this off my chest. Thanks for listening, if you’ve read this far.

OP posts:
ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 30/05/2025 18:58

He's not allowed to sleep with prostitutes but a "massage lady" sees to him when you're not there. At least keep your fantasy straight OP.

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 18:59

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 30/05/2025 18:58

He's not allowed to sleep with prostitutes but a "massage lady" sees to him when you're not there. At least keep your fantasy straight OP.

But she’s definitely not a prostitute 🤔

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 19:13

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 30/05/2025 18:58

He's not allowed to sleep with prostitutes but a "massage lady" sees to him when you're not there. At least keep your fantasy straight OP.

I’m like 95% certain it’s not a paid arrangement. There’s no mention of it in any of their communications

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 30/05/2025 19:14

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 19:13

I’m like 95% certain it’s not a paid arrangement. There’s no mention of it in any of their communications

Sure, sure

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 19:17

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 19:13

I’m like 95% certain it’s not a paid arrangement. There’s no mention of it in any of their communications

So when he wasn’t initiating sex or flirting with you… presumably he was initiating with this other woman. That must have hurt op.

is she also much younger than him or closer to him in his fifties?

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 19:18

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 30/05/2025 19:14

Sure, sure

because he would show you communication where fee was discussed. Come on op!

he is a 53 year old man having a massage and a roll around with a prostitute

Feelingdownbutnotout · 30/05/2025 19:21

FortyElephants · 30/05/2025 18:41

Oh stop it!
other people's marriages are really none of your concern. Marriage is a legal contract. I never promised I would forsake all others, that's a religious tenet. My marriage is both a legal contract, a loving commitment and non monogamous. And that fact has no bearing on anyone else's marriage!

OP has made her marriage other people's concern by starting a thread about it on MN.

She is happy to open up her private sexual arrangements for discussion so therefore posters are allowed to give their thoughts on it.

If she doesn't want to hear that some people think arrangements such as hers make a mockery of marriage then perhaps she should keep the details of their promiscuity to herself .

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 19:23

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 19:17

So when he wasn’t initiating sex or flirting with you… presumably he was initiating with this other woman. That must have hurt op.

is she also much younger than him or closer to him in his fifties?

I think she’s in her 40s. he only gets with her when I’m not available, so it wasn’t the issue.

@Multiplegums I trust him. I don’t think she’s a prostitute; I think she’s just a muscle fetishist like me. DH is really fun to massage, not only because of the muscles but because he gets a lot of knots and makes these delightful groans when you rub them out… But I won’t drag you into the S/M details.

Multiplegums · 30/05/2025 19:52

So considerably closer in age to him than you

how did they meet?

ARainyNightInSoho · 30/05/2025 21:18

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Multiplegums · 31/05/2025 05:55

i think i was sick a little in my mouth.

Your total thread should now come with a warning of a disturbing photo @LastPostISwear !! No one needs to see the headless bloated body of a 53 year old man! 🤢

Multiplegums · 31/05/2025 05:56

You never answered how your husband met the woman he has the massage from and roll around in a hotel bed (and definitely not a prostitute)?

LastPostISwear · 31/05/2025 13:38

Multiplegums · 31/05/2025 05:56

You never answered how your husband met the woman he has the massage from and roll around in a hotel bed (and definitely not a prostitute)?

I did. You’re not reading very closely. You also must not know what actually fit bodies look like, because that’s not “bloating” lol.

Do you go after the bony musician types?

TaupeRaven · 02/06/2025 16:23

Oh OP. Either you're some weirdo posting bizarre stuff to get some obscure sexual kicks, or you really need some friends and some decent advice. I'm sure you find your husband very attractive but ignoring that fact that his body is a bang average 53 year old guy can you honestly not see how weird it is that you're posting a video of your husband flexing his shoulder muscles on the internet so people can see what a sex god he is?

I think all your bluff and bluster is you trying to convince yourself that you're not actually depserately lonely and insecure

LastPostISwear · 02/06/2025 20:18

TaupeRaven · 02/06/2025 16:23

Oh OP. Either you're some weirdo posting bizarre stuff to get some obscure sexual kicks, or you really need some friends and some decent advice. I'm sure you find your husband very attractive but ignoring that fact that his body is a bang average 53 year old guy can you honestly not see how weird it is that you're posting a video of your husband flexing his shoulder muscles on the internet so people can see what a sex god he is?

I think all your bluff and bluster is you trying to convince yourself that you're not actually depserately lonely and insecure

Youre taking the piss. 70% of adults are overweight or obese, and a great deal of them do zero exercise whatsoever. DH is way above average. Dare you to post an example of what kind of man you find attractive, or if you’re male, your own faceless physique. But you won’t ;)

I love my husband, and I love his body, and I’m proud to show it off. It’s not like he doesn’t do the same thing.

I’m not insecure at all, not bluffing, nor am I lonely like, 90% of the time (the other 10% is when I’m separated from my family, or on the occasions where I’m like, “damn, it would really be nice to have a friend into hiking/camping/niche interest that DH is tired of me rambling about” but I know that will come eventually.”

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 02/06/2025 20:22

S0j0urn4r · 09/05/2025 01:28

Don't shit where you eat.
Talk to your DH.

This

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 02/06/2025 20:33

FairPlayer274 · 09/05/2025 17:57

There are lots of legal benefits and protections to marriage, and it also makes it so that it is more complicated to separate (encourages a couple to work through any problems.) We are romantically monogamous, have built our lives together and have invested time, effort, and resources into our family… There’s more to marriage than sexual monogamy.

I think there’s probably very few people that don’t enjoy flirting, feeling desired, and having their ego boosted. I wish those things were coming from DH, but they seem not to be at the moment.

Well that’s great, at least as a couple you get to work through your problems eh!

LastPostISwear · 03/06/2025 03:51

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 02/06/2025 20:33

Well that’s great, at least as a couple you get to work through your problems eh!

We do. As does every lasting couple.

ShiningStar3 · 03/06/2025 04:22

I have not and will never be in an open relationship, it's just not my cup of tea (and I know I'm far from special there, lol) but isn't one of the cardinal rules of open relationships trust and communication? You feel guilty because you're lying by omission to your husband, even if it is just flirting for now

TaupeRaven · 03/06/2025 09:06

LastPostISwear · 02/06/2025 20:18

Youre taking the piss. 70% of adults are overweight or obese, and a great deal of them do zero exercise whatsoever. DH is way above average. Dare you to post an example of what kind of man you find attractive, or if you’re male, your own faceless physique. But you won’t ;)

I love my husband, and I love his body, and I’m proud to show it off. It’s not like he doesn’t do the same thing.

I’m not insecure at all, not bluffing, nor am I lonely like, 90% of the time (the other 10% is when I’m separated from my family, or on the occasions where I’m like, “damn, it would really be nice to have a friend into hiking/camping/niche interest that DH is tired of me rambling about” but I know that will come eventually.”

Edited

This might seem odd to you, but I don't post random photos of my DH online to parade him like some kind of weird trophy. I know, bonkers right? He and I are both runners; he's incredibly fit and muscular but actually I don't really need the validation of cringey muscle flexing videos of him 😬If that need for validation isn't insecurity on your part pet, I don't know what is

Anyway, I wish you all the very best in your non-ethically monogamous relationship where you bitch to your oh-so-desirable DH about men whom you're straight up lying to him about, whilst flirting with the very guy you're slagging. You sound like a really emotionally intelligent and trustworthy kind of partner...

FortyElephants · 03/06/2025 09:53

LastPostISwear · 30/05/2025 22:17

@Multiplegums Fetlife

Some pics of DH to support my story for the doubters (though these are a bit old, and he has much better pec development now.)
https://imgur.com/a/UgOrB22
https://imgur.com/a/y2I32dM

Ok, I am editing this post because I immediately regret it.

OP are you autistic? I'm not asking because 'on mumsnet any odd behaviour suggests autism' but your niche interests, lack of social norms, writing style and this very odd post are suggesting to me you might be ND. If so, I want to tell you supportively and kindly that this post isn't socially acceptable behaviour and makes you appear very insecure. It's not ok to post half naked pictures of your husband on mumsnet even with his consent (do you have that?) You need to find a social network that doesn't revolve around swinging and kink, and get off the internet.

LastPostISwear · 03/06/2025 21:20

FortyElephants · 03/06/2025 09:53

Ok, I am editing this post because I immediately regret it.

OP are you autistic? I'm not asking because 'on mumsnet any odd behaviour suggests autism' but your niche interests, lack of social norms, writing style and this very odd post are suggesting to me you might be ND. If so, I want to tell you supportively and kindly that this post isn't socially acceptable behaviour and makes you appear very insecure. It's not ok to post half naked pictures of your husband on mumsnet even with his consent (do you have that?) You need to find a social network that doesn't revolve around swinging and kink, and get off the internet.

Edited

I haven’t been diagnosed, but I suspect I have mild AuDHD.

I would like to inform you cordially that you are not the sole arbitrator of what’s socially acceptable 👍 I don’t much care what’s “normal;” but rather what is ethical, makes me happy, and/or benefits my family.

Why in the world would anyone interpret what I’ve posted as insecurity? I’m proud of what I do, who I am, and the way my life is turning out…I think calling someone who’s shirtless but wearing long gym shorts “half naked” is a little dramatic. And of course I got his consent to post.

I’ve said several times that as soon as DD goes off to school and I have more free time, I’ll go and make some friends.

Clickjaw · 05/06/2025 08:11

“I’ll go and make some friends”

how do you plan to do this Op?

Ecstaticmotion · 05/06/2025 08:20

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 09/05/2025 07:25

Why bother getting married if you both fuck other people and you enjoy flirting/being desired/having your ego boosted?

Lol what?!

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