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Recent argument has destabilised our relationship.

207 replies

timeismymedicine · 02/05/2025 18:18

My partner of 18 months and I had an argument a week ago where he accused me of triggering him with how I spoke to him during a random everyday conversation about sheds.
He absolutely blew his top and started shouting at me that I needed to go away and think about what I had done (said this on repeat) when I said I didn’t know what I had said to cause such upset. I started crying.

He went on to call me a princess and how I always got my own way said he asks nothing of me and I had just given him a red flag and if I wanted to see this side of him this was the way to do it! I was so upset and puzzled I immediately apologised. Said I would never knowingly say anything to hurt and upset him. He called me a nag. Several times used that word on me. I hate that word and he knows it.

We had been discussing living together in the future. I own my house and he still has a mortgage. We are both in our 50s and have been married before. He has disclosed a turbulent childhood to me a few months into the relationship and probably has an anxious attachment. I am the opposite and calm consistent in nature so this suits him and he always tells me how happy he is with me and I am his partner for life etc.

We have had possibly 2 other arguments in our relationship, where he has gone into full anxiety mode with closed body language aggressive fight or flight type of response where I am left a bit confused as I don’t know how to respond.

I have really tried to understand but don’t know the full extent of his past as he has clearly only shared what he is able to therefore I don’t know what actually triggers him.
He also said he was going to leave me and not return. He didn’t go as it happened but continued to threaten to. He told me to continue living in my own house alone and single! It was very hurtful and said in an hurtful way and I am still hearing his voice in my head when I think about the argument. I seem to be unable to move on from it.
He only disclosed his financial situation to me recently. He plans to sell his house and we have discussed him moving into my house. It is convenient for both our work places etc.
He would have a small amount of equity which he has said would be ‘ours’. It is not enough to buy another house.
I am now panicking a bit as I feel this argument has de stabilised our relationship and I’m not sure I want to live with someone who shouts at me, threatens to leave and just calls me names to be unkind. He works with people so is aware of minimising feelings, would have done training on managing conflict Trauma triangle etc. I appreciate this is different to apply in real life. He is usually kind and thoughtful and up to this point I was really happy.
My concern is am I over thinking it - or is the occasional argument okay? Is a cup of tea 90%tea and 10% s*t still a cup of s*t tea?? Any decisions we have made have always been together and I am mindful of being a team and working things out so saying I always get my own way was baffling actually.

I would really appreciate some advice. I have lived happily alone for 3 years before knowing him. Has he shown me who he is. Is this who he is? I have experienced an abusive relationship and don’t want to go there again but there hasn’t been anything much up to now that was worrying.

OP posts:
Beamur · 02/05/2025 18:21

I would pause moving in together indefinitely. You don't really know him. This is as much a part of him as the nice side. Be wary.

crazeekat · 02/05/2025 18:21

Do not under any circumstances have this man move in with you and give him any control over your home. This is a huge red flag. Tell him you need him to stay in his own home for at least another year and see how he reacts. He sounds abusive. Sorry op.

BaseDrops · 02/05/2025 18:23

Do not move in with that man. Not in your house, not in his house, definitely not in any joined financial arrangement.

You can do better than a game playing abusive weaponising being triggered arse.

Cadenza12 · 02/05/2025 18:23

Yes, I also think that he's shown you who he is and a glimpse of what living with him would be like. He's keeping himself in check at the moment.

AltitudeCheck · 02/05/2025 18:26

What's his take on the argument now that he's had time to reflect? Unless he's admitted he was massively out of order, is mortified about his behaviour and keen to work on his problems I would be running away from this one. He's already made you apologise and feel like you to need to handle his moods so he doesn't explode and that is the start of a slippery slope in my experience.

Cognacsoft · 02/05/2025 18:30

He sounds horrible.
Go back to being happily single.

Sevenamcoffee · 02/05/2025 18:30

Objectively OP it is abusive because he is calling you names and saying nasty hurtful things deliberately. Meanwhile you’re tying yourself in knots trying to understand him and second guess his ‘triggers’. I bet he doesn’t behave like that at work. Do you really want this for yourself?

alwayslearning789 · 02/05/2025 18:30

"I’m not sure I want to live with someone who shouts at me, threatens to leave and just calls me names to be unkind...."

"He works with people so is aware of minimising feelings, would have done training on managing conflict Trauma triangle etc."

He is showing you who he is OP @timeismymedicine

Do you want to live like this?

"He also said he was going to leave me and not return. He didn’t go as it happened but continued to threaten to. He told me to continue living in my own house alone and single! It was very hurtful and said in an hurtful way and I am still hearing his voice in my head when I think about the argument"

Read that again and consider if you want to live like this.

thistimelastweek · 02/05/2025 18:31

Of course it's normal for couples to argue. Sometimes it can be healthy.

But what you describe wasn't an argument. And it doesn't sound healthy.

Be very careful how you take this relationship forward. If at all.

cherrymaoam · 02/05/2025 18:32

When someone shows you who they are … believe them.

MagpiePi · 02/05/2025 18:32

I wouldn’t let him move in under any circumstances.

Go back to being happily single.

TwistedWonder · 02/05/2025 18:38

Do either of you have DC? If so there’s absolutely no way on earth you should move him into your home.

And tbh reading your OP, I’d say regardless of the previous question, then moving him under your roof is a very very bad idea. In fact, continuing in a relationship with him is a big mistake

TucanPlay · 02/05/2025 18:39

Definitely abusive and it will only get worse. It's the first stages and I have heard these type of early behaviours from literally 100's of women in my work. Usually when they are trying to escape the relationship. Don't move in together, and I would consider ending the relationship. Imagine having his voice in your head 24/7 because you live together and you are desperately trying not to "trigger him" but you can't leave him and he won't move out.

DodgersJammyAndOtherwise · 02/05/2025 18:40

His argument style is abusive. Keep him at arms length or dump him. He sounds awful.

Aizen · 02/05/2025 18:43

Eggshells are very uncomfortable to walk on. But you don't have to. But if you did, it would ruin you for the rest of your life.

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 02/05/2025 18:43

I would probably end the relationship over this and be alone

BoredZelda · 02/05/2025 18:45

Yeah, I’d be leaving this guy to it.

LightDrizzle · 02/05/2025 18:46

He’s given you historical reasons that “justify” him lashing out at you [trauma in his past]; he’s given you current reasons for lashing out at you: you “nagging”. Basically he’s telling you what you can expect so you need to believe him.

You use a lot of therapeutic language in your description, I fear this might make you more, not less vulnerable and that he knows it; not because you may have experience of therapy but because your response to his behaviour is to try to pathologise it in a way that centres him and not you and leads you to want to help and solve it, whereas a less analytical response might be healthier as in “He’s being an arsehole for no good reason and he can fucking stay put and I’ll follow his command and stay put myself.”

You are right to be very wary. He sounds like an angry and entitled man.

VaddaABeetch · 02/05/2025 18:46

This man wants an emotional punch bag & a free financial ride.

The reason he says the equity from his house will belong to both of you is because he wants your house.

It’s only 18 months. Do you fear being single? Did he try to touch a nerve?

beetr00 · 02/05/2025 18:47

@timeismymedicine

"When someone shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM (eta; as many pp's have said)

About a shed? 18 months into your relationship?

Oh no! lovely. Bin and move on

DuckyLuck · 02/05/2025 18:52

He doesn’t have an anxious attachment, he’s avoidant. Has he wanted to discuss the argument since or apologised? I’m guessing no. If you carry on in this relationship there’s a very real danger that your secure, calm attachment style will become anxious. Get out now.

RipleyJones · 02/05/2025 18:52

started shouting at me that I needed to go away and think about what I had done

Wow. Wtf. He is a horrible man. A bully. He’ll be angry and childish. No. You have a great life, a house etc and are independent. Do not give anything of yourself or your life to this angry loser. 💐

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 02/05/2025 18:54

"and if I wanted to see this side of him this was the way to do it!"

In other words, he is telling you that if he's abusive towards you, it's because you made him do it, so you'd better be nice, or else. Absolute classic DARVO.

Please, for the love of Mike, DO NOT MOVE IN with this person.

Sleepeazie · 02/05/2025 18:55

Can I suggest watching ‘platform 7’ on ITVX. It is a really good example of coercive control and gas lighting. You might recognise your relationship within?

2025willbemytime · 02/05/2025 18:56

TL DR

My god, you're fifty? I thought you'd be early twenties.

You should run away very fast. This man is controlling and abusive.