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Recent argument has destabilised our relationship.

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timeismymedicine · 02/05/2025 18:18

My partner of 18 months and I had an argument a week ago where he accused me of triggering him with how I spoke to him during a random everyday conversation about sheds.
He absolutely blew his top and started shouting at me that I needed to go away and think about what I had done (said this on repeat) when I said I didn’t know what I had said to cause such upset. I started crying.

He went on to call me a princess and how I always got my own way said he asks nothing of me and I had just given him a red flag and if I wanted to see this side of him this was the way to do it! I was so upset and puzzled I immediately apologised. Said I would never knowingly say anything to hurt and upset him. He called me a nag. Several times used that word on me. I hate that word and he knows it.

We had been discussing living together in the future. I own my house and he still has a mortgage. We are both in our 50s and have been married before. He has disclosed a turbulent childhood to me a few months into the relationship and probably has an anxious attachment. I am the opposite and calm consistent in nature so this suits him and he always tells me how happy he is with me and I am his partner for life etc.

We have had possibly 2 other arguments in our relationship, where he has gone into full anxiety mode with closed body language aggressive fight or flight type of response where I am left a bit confused as I don’t know how to respond.

I have really tried to understand but don’t know the full extent of his past as he has clearly only shared what he is able to therefore I don’t know what actually triggers him.
He also said he was going to leave me and not return. He didn’t go as it happened but continued to threaten to. He told me to continue living in my own house alone and single! It was very hurtful and said in an hurtful way and I am still hearing his voice in my head when I think about the argument. I seem to be unable to move on from it.
He only disclosed his financial situation to me recently. He plans to sell his house and we have discussed him moving into my house. It is convenient for both our work places etc.
He would have a small amount of equity which he has said would be ‘ours’. It is not enough to buy another house.
I am now panicking a bit as I feel this argument has de stabilised our relationship and I’m not sure I want to live with someone who shouts at me, threatens to leave and just calls me names to be unkind. He works with people so is aware of minimising feelings, would have done training on managing conflict Trauma triangle etc. I appreciate this is different to apply in real life. He is usually kind and thoughtful and up to this point I was really happy.
My concern is am I over thinking it - or is the occasional argument okay? Is a cup of tea 90%tea and 10% s*t still a cup of s*t tea?? Any decisions we have made have always been together and I am mindful of being a team and working things out so saying I always get my own way was baffling actually.

I would really appreciate some advice. I have lived happily alone for 3 years before knowing him. Has he shown me who he is. Is this who he is? I have experienced an abusive relationship and don’t want to go there again but there hasn’t been anything much up to now that was worrying.

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JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 02/05/2025 19:56

Definitely don’t let him move in. I’d be telling him the relationship is over. You don’t need someone bellowing at you in your own home. You’d be walking on eggshells for the rest of your life. Sod that!

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 02/05/2025 19:57

Ignore me! I'm talking rubbish

YesHonestly · 02/05/2025 20:01

What struck me is that you wrote about how he shouted at you, called you names and made you feel confused and upset enough to apologise.

The comment about seeing that side of him makes me think he’s giving you a warning. He already knows he’s abusive.

It also struck me that you mentioned his childhood and attachment style as a way to explain his behaviour. He is an adult now. His trauma and responses to it are down to him to work through. You are not a rehabilitation centre for damaged men.

He isn’t a safe partner, and I would be ending the relationship. Definitely do not move in with him.

Takenoprisoner · 02/05/2025 20:04

MoominMai · 02/05/2025 18:59

OP, in answer to your Q, no you very much don’t know him. V similar to my recent ex actually. He was amazing and kind for the first year and a half but then his mask slipped and his jealousy and paranoia started to surface. I remember one argument he started because he (wrongly) accused me of cheating and the next day we were meant to go on holiday and catch an early flight. He asked me if I’d done my packing and I thought okay all good he’s seen sense and whatever just looking forward to the holiday. Then the next night before departure he rang to say I could have a lie in. I was gobsmacked as what that meant sunk in - I realised he deliberately led me to believe we were still both going away, even ensured I continued packing and I’d taken leave off work also and then to be told in such a cruel way that he was going alone because he was still mad. Up until then I would never ever have believed he could be so unkind and cruel without even any evidence of wrongdoing but his usual paranoia taking over. Crazy thing is before then we (also early 50s) were so in love, intended to be together forever and he wanted us to sell our homes and buy one together. On his return, he wanted to give it another go but no way! I ended it and thank goodness I didn’t risk my future by moving in with him. I only got a small glimpse of his anger there and couldn’t imagine how he’d treat me if we lived under the same roof. Even now that cruel episode lives rent free in my head and I just couldn’t move on from it. He was an incredibly handsome guy but after that I just developed the ick and physically just didn’t want anything to do with despite the fact I’d be single and alone all over again with zero family and friends. Don’t do it OP - I’d just leave!

Edited

that sent a shiver down my spine. He sounds horrifically psychologically abusive at least. Glad you dumped him

timeismymedicine · 02/05/2025 20:23

OMG thank you to everyone who has taken the time to post. I am reading through them all. We did discuss things next day at my request when I was still just so upset and unable to move on. I said I felt we had argued in an unhealthy way. That it was not right that he had threatened to leave and if I had said similar to him it would really have messed him up. His answer was ‘well I didn’t leave did I’ and if He did he said he would have come back and if you love someone you would always find them! He didn’t realise he had upset me so much he said. Went on to say I wasn’t a nag. He didn’t mean that. He then asked me in a slightly condescending manner ‘what would make things better, what did I want to happen and how could he make things better so we could move on’.
the issue as well I’m thinking is his needs will always trump mine as he has so much anxiety and distress over his upbringing.
it’s been going round in my head now and I know it’s just not right.

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Gettingbysomehow · 02/05/2025 20:27

It's not right at all. I'm in my 60s and this is not normal behaviour. I would not continue this relationship unless he goes for intensive therapy.

timeismymedicine · 02/05/2025 20:27

i own my house and have own car etc. as I said he has a mortgage and when we discussed our options he didn’t want to ‘bother’ with a buy to let mortgage as was too much hassle etc so opted to sell his house despite me suggesting we should possibly rent it for a bit until we knew we were happy and settled. He actually used the ‘you don’t want me to move in with you’ line again during that conversation I have just remembered now and said I don’t want him and was showing very high anxiety levels during the conversation ….

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Gettingbysomehow · 02/05/2025 20:28

He could have CPTSD which is very dangerous for a partner.

Popquorn · 02/05/2025 20:29

DO NOT LET HIM MOVE IN, EVER

timeismymedicine · 02/05/2025 20:44

YesHonestly · 02/05/2025 20:01

What struck me is that you wrote about how he shouted at you, called you names and made you feel confused and upset enough to apologise.

The comment about seeing that side of him makes me think he’s giving you a warning. He already knows he’s abusive.

It also struck me that you mentioned his childhood and attachment style as a way to explain his behaviour. He is an adult now. His trauma and responses to it are down to him to work through. You are not a rehabilitation centre for damaged men.

He isn’t a safe partner, and I would be ending the relationship. Definitely do not move in with him.

Edited

Yes thank you for that, yes he has used this as his response at times and has said he has done a lot of introspection with himself over the years. He has been a lovely partner up until this. He really unleashed a character assassination on me on just about everything we had done together , listed the things we had done and said how I had gotten my own way! I did point out if he is present and doesn’t make his choices known how am I supposed to know. It sounded like he was storing things up.

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timeismymedicine · 02/05/2025 20:45

Gettingbysomehow · 02/05/2025 20:28

He could have CPTSD which is very dangerous for a partner.

Thank you I haven’t come across that. I will have to google that one is it some kind of post traumatic stress response?

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DorothyStorm · 02/05/2025 20:47

Popquorn · 02/05/2025 20:29

DO NOT LET HIM MOVE IN, EVER

This. And dump him.

OldGothsFadeToGrey · 02/05/2025 20:48

Fuck that.

‘It’s you, not me. Don’t stay in touch’.

block.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/05/2025 20:49

Oh, fuck that shit.

Bin him off and be happy, rather than giving up your independence, having him invading your home, abusing you and generally making you miserable.

2025willbemytime · 02/05/2025 20:49

He's back tracking because you've stood up to him.

I have C-PTSD and I'm no danger to anyone.

fluffiphlox · 02/05/2025 20:51

Chuck him.

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 02/05/2025 20:52

Honestly, end it. He sounds nasty and manipulative.
Do you want to be forever walking on eggshells trying not to upset him?

timeismymedicine · 02/05/2025 20:53

Gettingbysomehow · 02/05/2025 20:28

He could have CPTSD which is very dangerous for a partner.

I have just looked this one up. He does have a poor self image and sometimes plays the victim. (Says things like he never complains, doesn’t ask anything of me etc)
I thought he may have ADD as he has difficulty motivating himself at times and will procrastinate plus loses things all the time misplaces stuff etc etc He is very emotional and did propose to me within a very short space of time. I declined and said I didn’t want to be married ever again and this upset him greatly as. He believes it is the epitome of love and romance.

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Bonsaibaby · 02/05/2025 20:53

Why would you do this to yourself? Your home is your safe place, treasure it, don’t bring conflict and pain into it permanently. Really don’t.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/05/2025 20:55

the epitome of love and romance.

It also conveniently entitles somebody to half the value of your home and pensions. Interesting how he's talking of selling his asset and having a 'small' amount of money. Otherwise known as liquidating his assets to keep away from you whilst he's housed and fed for free.

Aizen · 02/05/2025 20:57

I wonder what his response would be if you suggested moving in with him instead of the other way around. Hypothetically speaking of course.

It would be one way of establishing his motivation for wanting to go to yours.

As a single woman in her 60s, I can tell you that I have a partner of over 20 years and we each have our own houses, never moved in together and it is the recipe for a terrific relationship. We spend lots of time together and travel a good bit in our retirement, but each of us wants to have a bit of "me" time and the security of our own homes too.

I would advocate strongly that especially as we get older, women should preserve their independence and never take on anyone who will be a burden either financially or emotionally.

Thejackrussellsrule · 02/05/2025 21:02

If other posters haven't already suggested, please get a Claire's Law check done.

TwistedWonder · 02/05/2025 21:04

He has been a lovely partner up until this

Seriously? How? Because with every update he sounds worse and more manipulative. His DARVO is abusive and it’s training you not to question him or have an opinion.

He sounds the polar opposite of a loving partner tbh

timeismymedicine · 02/05/2025 21:04

Thejackrussellsrule · 02/05/2025 21:02

If other posters haven't already suggested, please get a Claire's Law check done.

That crossed my mind but he is in a role that would have had a DBS done would that still show ?

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coxesorangepippin · 02/05/2025 21:07

Maniac.

Get a different fella

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