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Found condoms...I have had Mirena for 11 + years

309 replies

noideaoffuturenow · 25/03/2025 17:38

So...I've had a Mirena in situ for 11+ years. Cleaning today-opened a random, unused cupboard (up v high & hard to reach) in the laundry room. Found a box..in it were a few of DH unworn Christmas jumpers, a tin of receipts and random objects inc a paper bag of 8 Skyn black packet condoms. UB 10/2026. Never ever known DH to use these even when we did use condoms. Many years ago....
Feel sick to my stomach.
What would you think?

OP posts:
Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 26/03/2025 17:48

butterpuffed · 26/03/2025 17:37

OP , I'm unsure as to why you're going to such lengths to work out when the condoms were usable ~ does this mean you would stay with him if he hasn't been cheating ?

I think the sheer amount of other selfish things you've mentioned towards both you and your children outweigh any cheating .

If the condoms were bought within the last five years that would coincide with the change in coil, so would potentially mean he hadn’t cheated. But l agree, him not cheating isn’t a reason to stay in a relationship like this. Hopefully it’s brought the other stuff home to OP and she’ll rethink the relationship.

DiduAye · 26/03/2025 18:00

When I was in this situation I discovered my husband was seeing dozens of other women including prostitutes

Christmasmorale · 26/03/2025 18:07

Forget the affair. The bigger issue is he is financially abusing you and not allowing you visibility of family finances and important documents and bank accounts.

I would spend the time he is away finding any copies you can of insurance policies, bank accounts, property documents and title deeds etc.

SmurfKingdom · 26/03/2025 18:22

Even if the condoms are from a timeframe that lines up, why would he have got them from a clinic?

CarrieOnComplaining · 26/03/2025 18:50

He'll immediately blame my lack of physical affection/intimacy for him being unfaithful if he ever admits to anything.

The whys and wherefores are irrelevant and not worth a moments discussion UNLESS it is a basis for trying to rebuild a relationship.

In which case starting trying to deflect and fling blame would be a terrible start,

So don’t engage.

And if you want to end your marriage you are free to do so: no justification is necessary. It isn’t for him to demand accountability.

Atsocta · 26/03/2025 18:50

His been cheating imo
sorry 😔

OldCottageGreenhouse · 26/03/2025 18:57

FidosMum84 · 25/03/2025 17:54

You need to ask him about these.
I’ve not seen condoms that are sold in packets of 8….. 6, 10,12’s and more are all common. So he’s likely used some. It’s technically possible it could have been for a posh wank but also possible he’s cheated.
If they’re still in date he’s bought them whilst you’ve had your coil in. They don’t last 12 years.
He’s obviously hidden them somewhere you won’t look for a reason.

A posh wank? Omg what have I just read. This place is eye opening sometimes

OldCottageGreenhouse · 26/03/2025 18:57

Atsocta · 26/03/2025 18:50

His been cheating imo
sorry 😔

*he’s

EdithBond · 26/03/2025 19:02

Blimey, just read your updates, OP.

Basically, you’ve been superwoman for 20 years: having 4 babies, bringing them up, working a professional job, studying, caring for parents and DC with disability. And you’ve done all this pretty-much as a lone parent. Hat tipped to you!

I agree you should listen to your gut re the condoms. However, if they do coincide with lockdowns and your coil change, it’s possible that’s why he bought/obtained a different brand (shortages of some items). Their shelf life spec is important in establishing if it fits this timeline. If they’re in a bag, could be he visited an STI clinic and they gave them to him.

If he’s about to go away on another trip, I’d at least leave them until he’s gone. Act normal. Don’t let on you’ve rooted in the utility cupboard. Then, see if he’s taken any. I’d also have a good rummage around his office while he’s away and look for any other evidence, including legal/financial documents that might help you build a better picture on that front.

If he’s secretive and closed off, he may well be hiding a lot from you and information is power - and helps you know how to broach things with him, without inadvertently weakening your position in any way. If he’s away a lot, things have never been great and you don’t want to disrupt the kids too much right now, then you could play the long game. Get yourself more financially secure, gather evidence for a divorce settlement, care for family. Then, separate in a planned way (for you) at a time that feels right for you and the kids.

JohnofWessex · 26/03/2025 19:15

What I find hard to understand is why men think they can hide this sort of stuff.

My late father never had weedkiller or insecticide in the house - this was in the 70's when there were all the issues over Paraquat because as he said, children will find everything

ItsJustLittleOldMe · 26/03/2025 19:29

@noideaoffuturenow if this was me I would take a photo of them in situ, then when he gets back, casually slip into a conversation that you are going to do a long overdue deep clean of the laundry room and wait to see if he moves them… (not read the entire thread so sorry if this has already been mentioned) if he moves them then you know he knows they are there and wants to hide them, just an idea. Sorry this is happening to you

Weefox · 26/03/2025 19:49

Don't jump to conclusions. This could be damaging. Just tell him you came across them and wondered why they were there. His response will give you a clue

Flossy8397 · 26/03/2025 20:07

He’s having an affair babe, you need to confront him about this. Unless you have teenage children who might have bought them?

Staceysmum2025 · 26/03/2025 20:08

OldCottageGreenhouse · 26/03/2025 18:57

A posh wank? Omg what have I just read. This place is eye opening sometimes

People tie themselves up in knots to justify this shit. I found a bottle of unopened massage oil in my exes overnight bag when he got back from a conference and people actually told me that maybe he had given himself a massage. 🤦‍♀️

okydokethen · 26/03/2025 20:49

Reading your updates OP I wonder if in the long run, this could be a painful blessing in disguise. The marriage sounds awful - don’t get me wrong mine isn’t great either but maybe if it were me making this discovery, it would make the decision process much easier.

And I would say trust your gut, forget dates and serial numbers, he has these condoms for sex with someone else. End of.

SnoopyPajamas · 26/03/2025 21:32

user1492757084 · 26/03/2025 11:39

Could they belong to a previous owner of the house, a house guest, their teenager, someone who shared their car and left stuff in it, their cleaner?

patrick swayze lol GIF by Maudit

Perhaps it was a lonely ghost, having a posh wank at the pottery wheel

RhubarbAndFlustered · 26/03/2025 21:34

Skyn condoms have a a shelf life of 3 years or 5 years if spermicide free. Have you used them in the last 2 years? If not then I’m sorry but it’s suspicious as hell and there is no reason for him to have them.

user1492757084 · 26/03/2025 21:36

Has your husband had a vasectomy?
Any type of prostate problems?
Heavy metals exposure?

Just thinking of valid medical reasons your DH could have been given the bag.
Does your husband do his travel laundry in that room?

A boyfriend of your DD could be responsible.

LetGoLetThem1234 · 26/03/2025 21:52

Washingupdone · 26/03/2025 17:07

This is why I think I need to play the long game. Knowledge is power
Exactly, whether it takes a week or months get all the papers together, you are strong, it’s DC and your future. Wade through those papers in his office, look in every nook and cranny in the house and photo relevant papers.
Go to the hairdressers’ and think of renewing your wardrobe, you deserve it.

Oh and put those condoms back so he will be non the wiser.

@noideaoffuturenow I agree with @washingupdone.

Particularly putting the condoms back. In fact, put everything that was in the cupboard/shelf back.

SnoopyPajamas · 26/03/2025 22:10

Posh wanks aside, here are my thoughts on the situation.

I agree with the posters who think the condoms were probably given to him by a sexual health clinic, and I think your time frame of Christmas 2023 (based on the unworn jumpers and the expiry date on the condoms) is probably accurate. I doubt the condoms were deliberately hidden away in the laundry room. Your husband could just buy them as needed, or keep them hidden at work. I'm guessing he was given these by the clinic to use with his wife, while waiting for test results to come back on an STI. (Or waiting for a course of antibiotics to take effect.)

The box wasn't a hiding place. He just put them away and forgot about them. Then muddled them up with the unwanted jumpers later. It was easy to do because he never planned on using them. That would mean telling you the truth, and he had no intention of that. And he wasn't getting his end away at the time, when he'd just been burned, so they were irrelevant on every front. Out of sight, out of mind. I don't think putting them back will tell you anything in this case. I'd bet money he doesn't know they're there.

I also doubt he would have gone to the clinic if he wasn't showing symptoms of a sexual infection. Was there a period of time where he was uncharacteristically disinterested in sex for a while? If so, it's likely he was on a course of antibiotics and didn't want to have the condom conversation with you. I echo the suggestions to get tested ASAP, OP. There are plenty of STIs that show no symptoms, and he may have thought he got away with it in the past.

I'm sorry this is happening to you. You deserve better. No ifs, no buts. You do 🌺

Shelby2010 · 26/03/2025 22:27

Can you ask your GP surgery for your medical records to check when you were having issues with your coil?

FrangipaniBlue · 26/03/2025 22:42

noideaoffuturenow · 26/03/2025 13:22

Thanks for all the replies....no sleep last night but stayed off here as I was trying hard to do so. I'm on AL and absolutely gutted it's been ruined by this discovery; I have things I need to do so trying to stay calm and get them done & stay stoic for the kids. I feel calm this morning. I've come through the bedroom & I will go up to his office.

Reading through all these answers does tell me my instincts are probably correct. I've always been aware with his lifestyle my husband could easily cheat. My sisters and friends have always been a bit critical of how accepting and relaxed I am about it TBH. Excuse the long post but I'm trying to clarify lots of things in my own head.....and writing them here helps.

In answer to questions; we have 4 DC. The eldest DD is 19, our only only DS is 11. Condoms are definitely not a kids stash or C'mas present. DH works for himself. He is away a lot and not particularly good at being in touch when he is. I've got used to having to be completely independent of him and run a tight ship at home so I can manage.

I guess one of the reasons I was instantly suspicious was where and when the condoms been stashed where I found them; he did a big bedroom clearout recently, so I'm assuming that stuff was moved to that spot fairly recently. And they were kept-why????
Also-they're fairly recently acquired judging by the BB date.
Today when I looked through all the bedroom cupboards/drawers/bags I did find an old pack of Durex in a bag under the bed. When we did use condoms Durex is what he'd always have used in the past-UB date was 2017. No gut punch there. I know they're old ones we had used together. The gut instinct I felt when finding the others is telling in comparison-I'm a big believer in trusting my gut. at the receipts that were in the box along with the condoms-nothing exciting. I never know who he's with or exactly where he is anyway. I don't ask, I don't remember if he tells me. The teams change.

I've always found his secrecy and 'independence' from us irritating and suspicious and we have argues a lot about it. I feel he has a life apart from us, whereas I'm completely tied to home/family. My older two DDs question it now that they're old enough to recognise it. I feel it's extreme TBH; he refuses to share his location, he won't subscribe to family apps like Family Wall. Despite the fact that it's his timetable and us not knowing that creates most of the issues. And I have been trying for years to make family life easier, so we have tried lots of different tacks-he has always been passive and not participated.

His phone is always glued to his side-even in bed- and he's on it A LOT. I have never been allowed to use it/look at it & nor have the kids; I probably have never really asked TBH, but I definitely feel it's 'guarded'. I feel he's permanently detached from the rest of us even when he's here. He lies on in bed until 8/9 every morning-has always left the morning routine to me. I'm rambling now but I guess I'm trying to illustrate that I've always felt it's me and the DC as part of a team and that he dips in and out when it suits him. He won't commit to holidays or trips until the last minute-which I feel robs us of an opportunity to look forward to eg holidays/days out/nights out. We don't really socialise. I see my friends when I can (rarely as I'm always with the kids).

He works away a lot-nationally and abroad. He changes plans at the last minute, staying away longer or delaying planned trips. He does work outdoors with teams of other ppl though, so he's always had a plausible excuse. But I have been resentful of his lack of family participation for many years and it's part of why our relationship is strained.

He keeps himself separate from my family; his family all live abroad. And I was v involved in looking after hs elderly parents before they passed away. They moved to be near us when they got older. I was v close to his parents and siblings, until more recently when I've realised t's me doing all the leg work of staying in touch and it was just adding to my 'to do' list. He has never been good at maintaining contact. Until v recently he has not participated in any of the DC sports/school stuff-leaving all of that to me. I have stepped back and told him that he must participate-we have had 2 big episodes in the recent past where divorce was mentioned and he knows he's on thin ice, so I do gfeel he has tried on & off. But it's the lack of reliability I guess which persists; he only does stuff when it suits him. And I won't let the kids down so I just step back up again.

Financially-we have separate accounts. I work, but I have reduced my hours to allow him more freedom to travel with his work (oh the irony). He controls all of the household bills. And refuses to share info re home insurance/life insurance-well he puts it off telling me he can't find the documents. I have asked for involvement, suggested a joint account we pay all of those things out of, but he's brushed it off many times and instead puts ££ into my account monthly to help with kids' fees/groceries/fuel etc. He is generous.

I do feel some of this background stuff is my own fault; I know I should have been stronger about sorting our finances. I should have been stronger about making him be more present and involved. But having 4 DC, a very busy professional job (I've recently completed 2 post grads inc a very challenging professional MSc and moved up 2 pay grades in my own role), his elderly parents and now mine- life has been chaos for years. We also have a SN child who has demanded a lot of extra input, had a long diagnostic process and it's pretty much all been down to me.

So....what this boils down to; I genuinely can't hand on heart remember the last time we needed condoms. Between coils-maybe during Covid? 5 years ago now....not sure the dates would tally. I do vaguely remember asking if we had some and he said no. Maybe he then got some??? I don't know. I think the larger issue here is the long term lack of happiness and my gut feeling that there's a problem with trust. Whether there's a reasonable reason for the condoms (???) or not, it is probably the last straw. Decisions need to be made.

Thank you for reading....it feels good to be able to organise my thoughts. I really don't want to burden my friends or sisters and nor do I want to anyone else to now yet/colour my feelings. I do value objective opinions, though. Fire away.

Everything you’ve said here almost perfectly describes my friends ExH….

He had a whole other life running in parallel complete with “long term life in girlfriend”.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 26/03/2025 22:45

noideaoffuturenow · 25/03/2025 22:31

Mainecoon-check out what? He does not share his location/passwords. He has always refused to share his phone & everything inc Netflix is PW protected. He does have an office which I have a key to, but its' chaos.

Anything financial you can get your hands on. I'd start with the office.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 26/03/2025 23:01

Hi @noideaoffuturenow - I've now caught up with your later posts.

He's a total bastard, never mind whether or not he's cheated (and I'd be pretty confident that he has/does).

The way he treats you is appalling. You deserve so much better. Get your ducks in a row and get rid. There's so much more to life than this odious, abusive wanker.

AcrossthePond55 · 26/03/2025 23:25

@noideaoffuturenow

Regardless of the resolution to the condom issue, it sounds to me as if there are enough other issues in your marriage for you to give serious consideration to whether or not you want to stay. So my advice is to gather what financial info you can and quietly see a solicitor. Not that you're going to 'do anything', just to educate yourself as to what divorce might mean to you and also what other information you should try to gather together. The financial 'unknowns' are so often what stop someone from making decisions. So once you know what the financial future may be, it will be easier to make decisions in a clearheaded way. Maybe you'll stay, maybe you won't. But the decision will be made from a place of knowledge. And knowledge is power.

As far as your children, divorce is not the 'trauma' it was back in my day. There are probably more children of divorce in their social 'spheres' than there are children from two parent homes. They'll just be 'one of many'. Yes, there will be a period of adjustment. But the common-ness of divorce will also help with that.

You really need to become financially informed. In my prior career I dealt with many widows/widowers who had no idea what was what and where it was. Some of them received nasty surprises, thinking they were financially solvent only to find that their home was mortgaged to the hilt or there were horrible debts. Or that the accounts/investments they thought would 'see them through' had virtually nothing in them. One woman narrowly missed going to prison for tax fraud (she signed joint US returns without paying attention), but she did lose her house to the IRS.

So, refuse to be pacified. Insist on seeing the documents and don't let it go. Tell him that this is about making you feel safe. If he gets angry, get angrier. If he won't tell you, then snoop if you have to. Pry, make phone calls. Demand copies from sources of anything that has your name on it. Divorce or no, this is YOUR financial security we're talking about.

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