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Found condoms...I have had Mirena for 11 + years

309 replies

noideaoffuturenow · 25/03/2025 17:38

So...I've had a Mirena in situ for 11+ years. Cleaning today-opened a random, unused cupboard (up v high & hard to reach) in the laundry room. Found a box..in it were a few of DH unworn Christmas jumpers, a tin of receipts and random objects inc a paper bag of 8 Skyn black packet condoms. UB 10/2026. Never ever known DH to use these even when we did use condoms. Many years ago....
Feel sick to my stomach.
What would you think?

OP posts:
Redruby2020 · 26/03/2025 11:47

@Chenecinquantecinq

What secret Santa gives them in a paper bag lol, unless they were second hand 😀 and the person who put them in already had some and wrapped them up in the bag?! I mean come on.

Redruby2020 · 26/03/2025 11:48

Enicks86 · 26/03/2025 07:04

SN could stand for school nurse.
How old are your children?
These could have been given to them if they had asked. Usually in a plain bag.

On the bag you mean? Or Serial Number. But then I can't remember without scrolling up what else was on there, I remember date and something else i thought.

GraceUnderPresure · 26/03/2025 11:52

I know it's not going to be an easy conversation, but just show him the bag when he's home and say 'look what I found' - you'll be able to tell from his reaction what the story is.
Double guessing and game playing is an exhausting way to get to the truth...
Good luck!

CarrieOnComplaining · 26/03/2025 11:53

What are the receipts?

Check them all for date and location, and what they bought.

Whohasseenmyglasses · 26/03/2025 11:55

CarrieOnComplaining · 26/03/2025 11:53

What are the receipts?

Check them all for date and location, and what they bought.

? Did she say there was a receipt?

Keiththecatwithamagichat · 26/03/2025 11:59

If you have 4 children and they were in a paper bag it's not unreasonable to think they may have been given out at school during sex Ed or something. But would a teenager put that in a cupboard in the house rather than their bedroom? Probably not.

I'd be looking through the receipts and trying to remember when he last wore the Christmas jumper? ,but you will probably have to just ask him and then go from there. Sorry.

ARichtGoodDram · 26/03/2025 12:00

But in a bag with a date on the front and written, I think it is?
I'm thinking I can't remember a clinic giving me a bag with writing on, or a printed label or anything else, obviously writing if not overly obvious possibly, but usually that's the whole point to be discreet in the bag

If the condoms have been given out from a clinic and not in full boxes then the expiry dates would be written somewhere - I have seen that before. I think it's not uncommon if they've got a large box of condoms they've split into smaller bundles.

I guess it could depend on what part of the country they are in.

Very true. I've never known any general sexual health clinic have the funds for Skyns though.

Whohasseenmyglasses · 26/03/2025 12:09

If you have 4 children and they were in a paper bag it's not unreasonable to think they may have been given out at school during sex Ed or something

How novel!

Children being given out in a paper bag! 😂
I think you weren't paying attention during your sex ed lessons.

mindutopia · 26/03/2025 12:21

I’m sure someone has already pointed this out but it sounds like what we’d hand out at the sexual health clinic. It could be something sinister like he has been cheating, thought he caught something, got it checked out and got some free condoms on the way out because he thought he better be more careful next time.

Or it could be something as innocent as he had some worrying symptoms and went to get them checked out, but never mentioned it because he didn’t want to freak you out and think he was accusing you of cheating, and they tested him and pressed some condoms on him as he left because that’s what they do.

I’ve been to the sexual health clinic to get things looked at (I also work in SH) despite having no concerns that Dh or I (obviously) were cheating. Last time they sent me home with antibiotics for me and for Dh and wanted to give me condoms. I didn’t have an STI (it was an infection related to my coil in the end) and neither of us took the ABs because I was sure it wasn’t an STI and I didn’t take the condoms because I wouldn’t want to use them, but most people do just take them.

That said, only you know your relationship. If Dh found condoms in a cupboard somewhere, he wouldn’t assume it’s because I was cheating. But something is making you feel uncomfortable and only you know which of these scenarios is more likely to be the case.

Doodleflips · 26/03/2025 12:22

LeaderBee · 26/03/2025 10:22

Man here - Tried it once because you hear about it from mates or silly comments on Reddit, but it's shit and not convenient, it's more of a meme.

No man is having a posh wank seriously.

Well, you’re wrong, but thanks for the input

MyKingdomForACat · 26/03/2025 12:25

Why wouldn’t he lock them in his office? Why would he hide them in a laundry room?

Whohasseenmyglasses · 26/03/2025 12:39

Doodleflips · 26/03/2025 12:22

Well, you’re wrong, but thanks for the input

No,. you're wrong.

Why would a man wear a condom to masturbate?

If you've not actually seen a bloke do this, you're imagining it.

But do carry on.

Oh, by the way, the earth isn't flat.

Patterncarmen · 26/03/2025 12:41

Geez, there is a Skyn advert next to this thread appearing.

I’m really sorry OP. Just ask him. I hope it is a big misunderstanding.

TennisLady · 26/03/2025 12:56

If he’s been to a sexual health clinic and been given them, why on earth would he have brought them home and put them in a cupboard! Very strange. Also wouldn’t make sense if it was one of OPs teenage kids, why hide them there…

Redruby2020 · 26/03/2025 13:04

hurlyburlywhirly · 26/03/2025 07:20

I still vividly remember pulling washing out of the machine one morning years ago and one (wrapped) flying out. It was totally out of the blue, had come out of a Jeans pocket and turned out to be exactly what it looked like.

some very wise advice on here. There’s no easy route though this, sadly, so get some support and decide what you want to do.

Thankfully in terms of finding something out, quite a few men are forgetful, especially where it comes to emptying their pockets before things go in the wash!

BunnyLake · 26/03/2025 13:17

You could hide them and see if he has any worried expression or nervy demeanour about him when/if he realises they’re gone.

Redruby2020 · 26/03/2025 13:19

ARichtGoodDram · 26/03/2025 12:00

But in a bag with a date on the front and written, I think it is?
I'm thinking I can't remember a clinic giving me a bag with writing on, or a printed label or anything else, obviously writing if not overly obvious possibly, but usually that's the whole point to be discreet in the bag

If the condoms have been given out from a clinic and not in full boxes then the expiry dates would be written somewhere - I have seen that before. I think it's not uncommon if they've got a large box of condoms they've split into smaller bundles.

I guess it could depend on what part of the country they are in.

Very true. I've never known any general sexual health clinic have the funds for Skyns though.

I thought, and will need to check lol as I think I still have some left, the clinic ones would still have the exp date etc on them individual condom cover/packet.

Yes they usually put a certain amount in bags ready to hand out.

Yeah I mean just like other things, area to area it all runs differently.
Plus from reading through further, someone mentioned that Skyn's are latex free, so maybe other clinics do have them and give them in that case, or some other non latex brand etc.

Redruby2020 · 26/03/2025 13:21

Whohasseenmyglasses · 26/03/2025 12:09

If you have 4 children and they were in a paper bag it's not unreasonable to think they may have been given out at school during sex Ed or something

How novel!

Children being given out in a paper bag! 😂
I think you weren't paying attention during your sex ed lessons.

Not completely sure what you mean. But my sex ed lessons were a long time ago, nowadays i don't know what they do at school can they/do they even give condoms out?
Then there are the under 25 clinics and I think some walk in's for age 16 or something i thought.

noideaoffuturenow · 26/03/2025 13:22

Thanks for all the replies....no sleep last night but stayed off here as I was trying hard to do so. I'm on AL and absolutely gutted it's been ruined by this discovery; I have things I need to do so trying to stay calm and get them done & stay stoic for the kids. I feel calm this morning. I've come through the bedroom & I will go up to his office.

Reading through all these answers does tell me my instincts are probably correct. I've always been aware with his lifestyle my husband could easily cheat. My sisters and friends have always been a bit critical of how accepting and relaxed I am about it TBH. Excuse the long post but I'm trying to clarify lots of things in my own head.....and writing them here helps.

In answer to questions; we have 4 DC. The eldest DD is 19, our only only DS is 11. Condoms are definitely not a kids stash or C'mas present. DH works for himself. He is away a lot and not particularly good at being in touch when he is. I've got used to having to be completely independent of him and run a tight ship at home so I can manage.

I guess one of the reasons I was instantly suspicious was where and when the condoms been stashed where I found them; he did a big bedroom clearout recently, so I'm assuming that stuff was moved to that spot fairly recently. And they were kept-why????
Also-they're fairly recently acquired judging by the BB date.
Today when I looked through all the bedroom cupboards/drawers/bags I did find an old pack of Durex in a bag under the bed. When we did use condoms Durex is what he'd always have used in the past-UB date was 2017. No gut punch there. I know they're old ones we had used together. The gut instinct I felt when finding the others is telling in comparison-I'm a big believer in trusting my gut. at the receipts that were in the box along with the condoms-nothing exciting. I never know who he's with or exactly where he is anyway. I don't ask, I don't remember if he tells me. The teams change.

I've always found his secrecy and 'independence' from us irritating and suspicious and we have argues a lot about it. I feel he has a life apart from us, whereas I'm completely tied to home/family. My older two DDs question it now that they're old enough to recognise it. I feel it's extreme TBH; he refuses to share his location, he won't subscribe to family apps like Family Wall. Despite the fact that it's his timetable and us not knowing that creates most of the issues. And I have been trying for years to make family life easier, so we have tried lots of different tacks-he has always been passive and not participated.

His phone is always glued to his side-even in bed- and he's on it A LOT. I have never been allowed to use it/look at it & nor have the kids; I probably have never really asked TBH, but I definitely feel it's 'guarded'. I feel he's permanently detached from the rest of us even when he's here. He lies on in bed until 8/9 every morning-has always left the morning routine to me. I'm rambling now but I guess I'm trying to illustrate that I've always felt it's me and the DC as part of a team and that he dips in and out when it suits him. He won't commit to holidays or trips until the last minute-which I feel robs us of an opportunity to look forward to eg holidays/days out/nights out. We don't really socialise. I see my friends when I can (rarely as I'm always with the kids).

He works away a lot-nationally and abroad. He changes plans at the last minute, staying away longer or delaying planned trips. He does work outdoors with teams of other ppl though, so he's always had a plausible excuse. But I have been resentful of his lack of family participation for many years and it's part of why our relationship is strained.

He keeps himself separate from my family; his family all live abroad. And I was v involved in looking after hs elderly parents before they passed away. They moved to be near us when they got older. I was v close to his parents and siblings, until more recently when I've realised t's me doing all the leg work of staying in touch and it was just adding to my 'to do' list. He has never been good at maintaining contact. Until v recently he has not participated in any of the DC sports/school stuff-leaving all of that to me. I have stepped back and told him that he must participate-we have had 2 big episodes in the recent past where divorce was mentioned and he knows he's on thin ice, so I do gfeel he has tried on & off. But it's the lack of reliability I guess which persists; he only does stuff when it suits him. And I won't let the kids down so I just step back up again.

Financially-we have separate accounts. I work, but I have reduced my hours to allow him more freedom to travel with his work (oh the irony). He controls all of the household bills. And refuses to share info re home insurance/life insurance-well he puts it off telling me he can't find the documents. I have asked for involvement, suggested a joint account we pay all of those things out of, but he's brushed it off many times and instead puts ££ into my account monthly to help with kids' fees/groceries/fuel etc. He is generous.

I do feel some of this background stuff is my own fault; I know I should have been stronger about sorting our finances. I should have been stronger about making him be more present and involved. But having 4 DC, a very busy professional job (I've recently completed 2 post grads inc a very challenging professional MSc and moved up 2 pay grades in my own role), his elderly parents and now mine- life has been chaos for years. We also have a SN child who has demanded a lot of extra input, had a long diagnostic process and it's pretty much all been down to me.

So....what this boils down to; I genuinely can't hand on heart remember the last time we needed condoms. Between coils-maybe during Covid? 5 years ago now....not sure the dates would tally. I do vaguely remember asking if we had some and he said no. Maybe he then got some??? I don't know. I think the larger issue here is the long term lack of happiness and my gut feeling that there's a problem with trust. Whether there's a reasonable reason for the condoms (???) or not, it is probably the last straw. Decisions need to be made.

Thank you for reading....it feels good to be able to organise my thoughts. I really don't want to burden my friends or sisters and nor do I want to anyone else to now yet/colour my feelings. I do value objective opinions, though. Fire away.

OP posts:
Lifeistestingme · 26/03/2025 13:27

I think you know what you need to do, OP. Good luck!

Digdongdoo · 26/03/2025 13:31

I'm curious how you know they don't belong to teen DDs? You've got DH issues either way, but surely you know teenage girls can and should acquire condoms. They aren't just for boys.

noideaoffuturenow · 26/03/2025 13:34

Also-I've checked; the Skins appear to be the 'orginal'kind. Plain black pack-'exp 10/2026' and '2111P41122' handwritten on the bag.
Does this suggest manufacture in 2021? It seems contradictory though; the SN suggests they were manufactured in 2021 but as have no spermicide expire after 3 years but say '2026'? Can anyone help with this?

If they were obtained in 2023 that's way more damming in terms of why/who for. My new coil was inserted in July 2023 and the old one was still ok-it was changed from Jaydess brand to Mirena so could be used as part HRT and was still ok for contraception. If there was a gap in coil protection it was during Covid -maybe 2021/2022 but I really can't remember.

OP posts:
Sulu17 · 26/03/2025 13:38

Apologies if this has already been mooted, but it is possible that he has a second family? You have coped so well, OP.

Redruby2020 · 26/03/2025 13:38

noideaoffuturenow · 26/03/2025 13:22

Thanks for all the replies....no sleep last night but stayed off here as I was trying hard to do so. I'm on AL and absolutely gutted it's been ruined by this discovery; I have things I need to do so trying to stay calm and get them done & stay stoic for the kids. I feel calm this morning. I've come through the bedroom & I will go up to his office.

Reading through all these answers does tell me my instincts are probably correct. I've always been aware with his lifestyle my husband could easily cheat. My sisters and friends have always been a bit critical of how accepting and relaxed I am about it TBH. Excuse the long post but I'm trying to clarify lots of things in my own head.....and writing them here helps.

In answer to questions; we have 4 DC. The eldest DD is 19, our only only DS is 11. Condoms are definitely not a kids stash or C'mas present. DH works for himself. He is away a lot and not particularly good at being in touch when he is. I've got used to having to be completely independent of him and run a tight ship at home so I can manage.

I guess one of the reasons I was instantly suspicious was where and when the condoms been stashed where I found them; he did a big bedroom clearout recently, so I'm assuming that stuff was moved to that spot fairly recently. And they were kept-why????
Also-they're fairly recently acquired judging by the BB date.
Today when I looked through all the bedroom cupboards/drawers/bags I did find an old pack of Durex in a bag under the bed. When we did use condoms Durex is what he'd always have used in the past-UB date was 2017. No gut punch there. I know they're old ones we had used together. The gut instinct I felt when finding the others is telling in comparison-I'm a big believer in trusting my gut. at the receipts that were in the box along with the condoms-nothing exciting. I never know who he's with or exactly where he is anyway. I don't ask, I don't remember if he tells me. The teams change.

I've always found his secrecy and 'independence' from us irritating and suspicious and we have argues a lot about it. I feel he has a life apart from us, whereas I'm completely tied to home/family. My older two DDs question it now that they're old enough to recognise it. I feel it's extreme TBH; he refuses to share his location, he won't subscribe to family apps like Family Wall. Despite the fact that it's his timetable and us not knowing that creates most of the issues. And I have been trying for years to make family life easier, so we have tried lots of different tacks-he has always been passive and not participated.

His phone is always glued to his side-even in bed- and he's on it A LOT. I have never been allowed to use it/look at it & nor have the kids; I probably have never really asked TBH, but I definitely feel it's 'guarded'. I feel he's permanently detached from the rest of us even when he's here. He lies on in bed until 8/9 every morning-has always left the morning routine to me. I'm rambling now but I guess I'm trying to illustrate that I've always felt it's me and the DC as part of a team and that he dips in and out when it suits him. He won't commit to holidays or trips until the last minute-which I feel robs us of an opportunity to look forward to eg holidays/days out/nights out. We don't really socialise. I see my friends when I can (rarely as I'm always with the kids).

He works away a lot-nationally and abroad. He changes plans at the last minute, staying away longer or delaying planned trips. He does work outdoors with teams of other ppl though, so he's always had a plausible excuse. But I have been resentful of his lack of family participation for many years and it's part of why our relationship is strained.

He keeps himself separate from my family; his family all live abroad. And I was v involved in looking after hs elderly parents before they passed away. They moved to be near us when they got older. I was v close to his parents and siblings, until more recently when I've realised t's me doing all the leg work of staying in touch and it was just adding to my 'to do' list. He has never been good at maintaining contact. Until v recently he has not participated in any of the DC sports/school stuff-leaving all of that to me. I have stepped back and told him that he must participate-we have had 2 big episodes in the recent past where divorce was mentioned and he knows he's on thin ice, so I do gfeel he has tried on & off. But it's the lack of reliability I guess which persists; he only does stuff when it suits him. And I won't let the kids down so I just step back up again.

Financially-we have separate accounts. I work, but I have reduced my hours to allow him more freedom to travel with his work (oh the irony). He controls all of the household bills. And refuses to share info re home insurance/life insurance-well he puts it off telling me he can't find the documents. I have asked for involvement, suggested a joint account we pay all of those things out of, but he's brushed it off many times and instead puts ££ into my account monthly to help with kids' fees/groceries/fuel etc. He is generous.

I do feel some of this background stuff is my own fault; I know I should have been stronger about sorting our finances. I should have been stronger about making him be more present and involved. But having 4 DC, a very busy professional job (I've recently completed 2 post grads inc a very challenging professional MSc and moved up 2 pay grades in my own role), his elderly parents and now mine- life has been chaos for years. We also have a SN child who has demanded a lot of extra input, had a long diagnostic process and it's pretty much all been down to me.

So....what this boils down to; I genuinely can't hand on heart remember the last time we needed condoms. Between coils-maybe during Covid? 5 years ago now....not sure the dates would tally. I do vaguely remember asking if we had some and he said no. Maybe he then got some??? I don't know. I think the larger issue here is the long term lack of happiness and my gut feeling that there's a problem with trust. Whether there's a reasonable reason for the condoms (???) or not, it is probably the last straw. Decisions need to be made.

Thank you for reading....it feels good to be able to organise my thoughts. I really don't want to burden my friends or sisters and nor do I want to anyone else to now yet/colour my feelings. I do value objective opinions, though. Fire away.

Hi again, glad you came back on to reply. Even though the original post is about finding the condoms, even without that you already have good reasons to of had enough and with his lifestyle and behaviour. The only 'blessing' of his work it seems is that he obviously pays everything else, aside from what you pay in to/for from your salary.
Which by the way I'm glad you mentioned your work, and that you do work and are not completely reliant on him.
And that's amazing that you have studied further too!!
Puts me to shame separated with only one DC! And you've got all of that going on and still studied too!

I was going to say how did you end up with 4 kids with him, if he is the way he is, but then thought maybe he was better in the early years/first child etc.
But yes i would be fed up of doing it all.
Yes he obviously works a lot and hard and main earner?
But he is living his own separate life.

My exP who is a terrible person and I have a horrible history with, does more than what you have mentioned.
Admittedly only because we are separated, but then I know there are plenty who were bad with partner/child/home when together, so didn't improve afterwards or didn't stick around.

When you mentioned big clear out he did right? In your bedroom, do you remember how long it's been roughly since you went in this cupboard in the laundry room?
So are you thinking he had what you have found, and they were in your bedroom until this clear out? And he has now shoved them up in this cupboard.

noideaoffuturenow · 26/03/2025 13:39

Digdongdoo-for a few reasons.
I have a very open relationship with my eldest DD who has a Mirena. She is recently SA, obviously I advised condoms but her boyfriend sorts that and they aren't ever here to have sex. My next DD (16) has never had a boyfriend and rarely leaves the house. f either DD had ever been given condoms at school they would stash them in their rooms or throw them away. others are way too young.
Where I found them is in a downstairs random high laundry room cupboard in a box with items my DH had cleared from the bedroom, with other possessions of his.

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