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Frequently negged by partner over my interests/values/intelligence.. why?!

238 replies

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:15

this might sound like a weird one, but I am beginning to get irritated with my dp of around 18 months and I really would appreciate some views on this. I feel like he often says mean things/put downs or negs in normal conversations and I get blindsided or more frequently now, offended and we end up arguing because I don't like feeling put down in this way. Examples would be, eg-

I've always loved movies, tv, pop culture trivia in general including actors/actresses, celebrities, popstars etc. I've been that way since I was a kid and read all the pop mags, I never saw it as a bad thing before more of a thing I do to relax, but he often brings this up in arguments. If I watch a show about 90s boybands, he will bring it up later in a more intellectual conversation saying that my interest is in boybands, his is in (whatever 'serious', scientific or whatever topic we might be discussing). Btw, I went to oxbridge and have a masters degree from UCL while he went to a vocational college, so it feels odd to have my intelligence undermined in this way. He will also say that I have an 'infatuation' with actors or famous men if I go on their wikipedia page after we watch something, even if it's just to see what else they have been in. I haven't had a celeb crush since I was a young teen, I just love that world of media/pop culture. He went in a mood after I took him to see a one man play in London once, because he said I was obviously fascinated with talented men/actors.

if I describe people generally using adjectives like their height, attractiveness, job etc he says I am overly preoccupied with these qualities and he has even said I am shallow before and that I was only with my ex for his salary. I actually was a single mum for years and built up my successful career through a lot of graft, and I've never expected to split expenses more than 50/50- in fact, I helped my ex build up his career to a double pay rise, while taking a cut of my own.

He thinks my interest in true crime is also incredibly vapid and also mentions it in arguments.

If we watch a show involving casual sex/dating, which he knows I did a lot of in my distant past, he will refer to how shallow and weird it is to sleep with someone you're not in love with. He takes a lot of pride and talks a lot about how he has only had 4 sexual partners in his mid 40s and always bangs on about his christian/country background and how this has given him strong (read: better) values/morals. He has gotten very annoyed even watching shows such as Girls, Looking, Fleabag etc before because he thinks they trivialise sex and relationships, and ends up having a rant about this. I am 10 years younger and I feel like his attitude is pretty old fashioned, I cant get riled up about stuff like that especially in a tv show.

He makes a lot of comments about 'city people' and how people from the countryside are generally more friendly, more reliable, more moral, etc. I have grown up in cities as he knows, and lived in major cities for 15 years as an adult. again, I never thought to judge people on city/country before!

I have had to hear the same sermon multiple times on how lying is so bad for relationships (no shit) - he seems to rank cheating/lying on a level with murder or something, because he was cheated on once. He is so black and white, I often end up pointing out that eg. my mum had an exit affair in a DV marriage, but even that to him is a stain on her character.

I have actually raised to him a few times now that if he cant accept things about me (from stupid stuff like the articles I read online, to bigger stuff like maybe being less black and white about stuff like casual sex, etc) and continues to be judgy/neg, maybe we aren't very compatible but he just maintains he thinks we are soulmates?!

It just feels like so often, I come away from conversations feeling defensive and/or invalidated, as well as insecure about myself- maybe I am shallow, etc... On a level I know it's not true, but it seems like even my stupid side interests are up for comment. I never thought that wikipedia-ing a director or watching a show about take that would lead to a negging comment about me, but it feels like he is in constant judgment! Its so annoying when I have so many interests and I am obviously no fool.

Any thoughts? He is otherwise lovely and does everything for me/us, he's kind, I just dont get this judginess. His family are kind of like this too, making out they are better than others, but he sees that in them... just not in himself.

OP posts:
pikkumyy77 · 31/01/2025 22:51

He will cheat in you eventually. The ones who go on and on about it being the worst sin always do. They just mean its the worst when it happens to them. Its not a problem when they do it to you.

coralsky · 31/01/2025 22:58

Urgh he sounds absolutely pathetic. Do you really want to be stuck with this for the rest of your life ?

dietingisdull · 31/01/2025 23:31

He sounds insufferable OP. He's ridiculing you, your interests & past on the daily. How can you fancy him or like his personality? His pompous, smug superiority complex is concealing a very insecure negging misogynist who doesn't respect you & surrounds himself with more intelligent & interesting women to compensate & distract from his own failings (yet ironically only serves to highlight them). Please get out!

CherryVanillaPie · 01/02/2025 00:56

if I describe people generally using adjectives like their height, attractiveness, job etc he says I am overly preoccupied with these qualities and he has even said I am shallow before and that I was only with my ex for his salary.

I once by accident found a list he had made of the qualities he wanted in a partner and it included 'beautiful', 'intelligent', 'ambitious'... he is an underemployed man in his mid 40s who most people mistake for older

So it's ok for him to want someone beautiful and ambitious/successful, but if a woman does that's bad? Does he watch Andrew Tate?

OP, you could do so much better. It doesn't have to be like this. I had a couple of boyfriends who put me down, then met my lovely late dh who wasn't like that at all. It was bliss.

AlienAdvancedCivilisation · 01/02/2025 01:10

A partner is supposed to make you happy, laugh, support you

You are unhappy

You deserve better

StormingNorman · 01/02/2025 01:15

I hear you. I have postgraduate qualifications and a Hayu subscription. I love the Real Housewives of absolutely anywhere 🤷‍♀️

Either he’s a cock or a cock with an inferiority complex.

FineMom · 01/02/2025 01:33

OMG I would not be able to resist taking the piss out of every stupid thing he says and asking him whether he realises how thick he sounds by quoting “the Harvard” 😆.

Also if him and his mother want to make pathetic generalisations about people from cities and people from the countryside tell him the stupid joke about what people from each of those places are called (citizens and c——-) . Then dump him.

blueshoes · 01/02/2025 01:42

I got to the part where you said you are 10 years' younger than him and thought just throw this one back.

Why waste any more of your time and youth with this joy sucker.

H112 · 01/02/2025 03:52

You're together 18 months. He isn't your partner. He's your boyfriend.

And he's a shitty controlling abusive boyfriend at that.

MayaPinion · 01/02/2025 04:12

You are who you are, OP. You don’t need to explain or justify anything. If he doesn’t like you he doesn’t need to be with you. Put him out of his so called misery and bin him.

beencaughttrollin · 01/02/2025 04:20

It doesn't sound like he's emotionally mature enough to be in a relationship. He wants a partner, but he doesn't accept that said partner will have her own views, options, preferences, and goals. Sorry, but you have to throw him back and leave him to grow up. You can't force him into it or do it for him.

maggieemagpie · 01/02/2025 04:25

OP, I'm a doctor (PhD so not a real doctor) and my favourite show of all time is Gogglebox! Don't let this low self-esteem oaf tear you down. Fuck him off and put your energies into find a fellow weirdo like yourself! He is not your guy.

teonaidh · 01/02/2025 06:06

If typing out a 1000 word spiel on him being a bastard followed by “but he’s nice really! what should i do?” didn’t let you know the way forward i’m not sure anything anyone tells you is going to sink in either.

Listen to yourself.

SharpTart · 01/02/2025 06:56

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BubbleGumOnShoe · 01/02/2025 07:28

GET OUT NOW. While your brains still functioning.
this guy is trying to brain wash you due to his own insecurities. I’m sure he has enjoyed having intelligent partners at the beginning because it made him look good. However, that does not mean he wants them to feel confident at all good about themselves. He is the star in this relationship. You need to remember; you are very fortunate to have him even though he’s under achieving, clearly not as intelligent as you, clearly not as successful as you. The only thing he’s got to control is how you think about things.

He’s got in there now with some good sex and no doubt some future faking and promises. Now all he needs to do is lower your trust in yourself and try to convince you that you’re so bloody lucky to have him and nobody else apart from him in the world has any value whatsoever. He doesn’t want you thinking that women enjoy casual sex or anything else he wants all those things gone so that there are no threats to him , on the table at all.
It all sounds quite lighthearted, but actually it’s not in the slightest. This is the beginning of a narcissistically abusive relationship and now is your chance to get out.
don’t bother trying to convince him he’s wrong. Trust me you will thank yourself for getting out and if you don’t get out now, there will come a time that you look back on this as the open door you wish you had taken.

Good luck XXX.

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 01/02/2025 07:37

I think you sound interesting and balanced he sounds dull and a misogynist. I have a masters and did my BA at UCL, I've never thought of myself as particularly intellectual. My favourite TV show is Death in Paradise and I listen to a podcast about the Sweet Valley High books. But I'm happy. Does he make you happy?

TheOccupier · 01/02/2025 08:09

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:03

10 year age gap. He is self confessedly a 'country boy' who has always worked with his hands. I am a city dweller until quite recently, with a humanities background and a job working with people/computers. That's the gap that feels bigger, tbh.

You sound completely unsuited to each other, and he sounds like an arse. Call it off. Not nice for your DC to be in an environment where you are constantly belittled and undermined like this either. By the way, 90s boy bands are great 😁

StrawberryDream24 · 01/02/2025 08:11

pikkumyy77 · 31/01/2025 22:51

He will cheat in you eventually. The ones who go on and on about it being the worst sin always do. They just mean its the worst when it happens to them. Its not a problem when they do it to you.

I agree.

Someone mentioned narcississm.earlier and I would argue that a person like him who sees it as nothing when they cheat on their spouse (which he did, whether or not he truly had no physical contact with his OW) but sees iit as the crime of the century when he is cheated on ...is a sign of narcissism (or at the very least massive double standards).

StrawberryDream24 · 01/02/2025 10:07

Op, you're too smart for this guy

Too smart not to notice and feel very uncomfortable & turned off by his persistent character assassination & devaluation of you.... And too smart not to have noticed his lies, delusions & spectacular hypocrisy around cheating.

He's also a decade older.
(And I'm sure he thought, being a decade younger, he'd be able to manipulate and bullshit you better, but - how sad - that hasn't gone his way).

(Oh and for the record, 40 is when autism etc. rises in kids of those fathers .... If you were to have a child with him).

You'd be better to find a man closer to your age who doesn't feel compelled to put down & devalue his girlfriend.
And ideally one who didn't end his marriage by cheating (which very conveniently (and entirely unreasonably) is somehow not really cheating in his eyes) while being the harshest critic of other people cheating.

And a man who believes himself to be a massive victim of an evil ex girlfriend who cheated on him, while he is guilt free and not responsible re. his ex wife who ended up having to get counselling due to his infidelity.

(But it wasn't really cheating cause he wasn't physical with the women he left her for, right?Unlikely, and even if true; still cheating).

This is not a character for a serious relationship.

StrawberryDream24 · 01/02/2025 10:15

It's also a joke that he considers himself so moral and respectable for only having had 4 sexual partners; while being a man who cheated on his wife and left her for another woman.

Yeah, he's a real bastion of moral values.

Channellingsophistication · 01/02/2025 10:16

So he is lovely and kind when he’s not being horrible to you. He sounds really tiresome and he cheated on his wife!

Tooshytoshine · 01/02/2025 10:22

A friend used to have a partner like this.

He was an arrogant prick who destroyed her confidence.

Throw this one back - you sound brilliant!

Shoxfordian · 01/02/2025 11:16

He doesn't even like you
He's continually undermining and belittling and judging you
Why are you putting up with this shit?

Cm19841 · 01/02/2025 11:51

Horribly abusive person. It will only get worse. Get out while you can with as little further damage as possible. What a piece of shit and he sounds so boring and beneath you.

Cm19841 · 01/02/2025 11:54

"how he doesn't set store by career or money ..."

Good for him as he has never achieved what you have in his horrible pious, controlling judgmental existence.

He is threatened by you. He's a moron.

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