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Frequently negged by partner over my interests/values/intelligence.. why?!

238 replies

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:15

this might sound like a weird one, but I am beginning to get irritated with my dp of around 18 months and I really would appreciate some views on this. I feel like he often says mean things/put downs or negs in normal conversations and I get blindsided or more frequently now, offended and we end up arguing because I don't like feeling put down in this way. Examples would be, eg-

I've always loved movies, tv, pop culture trivia in general including actors/actresses, celebrities, popstars etc. I've been that way since I was a kid and read all the pop mags, I never saw it as a bad thing before more of a thing I do to relax, but he often brings this up in arguments. If I watch a show about 90s boybands, he will bring it up later in a more intellectual conversation saying that my interest is in boybands, his is in (whatever 'serious', scientific or whatever topic we might be discussing). Btw, I went to oxbridge and have a masters degree from UCL while he went to a vocational college, so it feels odd to have my intelligence undermined in this way. He will also say that I have an 'infatuation' with actors or famous men if I go on their wikipedia page after we watch something, even if it's just to see what else they have been in. I haven't had a celeb crush since I was a young teen, I just love that world of media/pop culture. He went in a mood after I took him to see a one man play in London once, because he said I was obviously fascinated with talented men/actors.

if I describe people generally using adjectives like their height, attractiveness, job etc he says I am overly preoccupied with these qualities and he has even said I am shallow before and that I was only with my ex for his salary. I actually was a single mum for years and built up my successful career through a lot of graft, and I've never expected to split expenses more than 50/50- in fact, I helped my ex build up his career to a double pay rise, while taking a cut of my own.

He thinks my interest in true crime is also incredibly vapid and also mentions it in arguments.

If we watch a show involving casual sex/dating, which he knows I did a lot of in my distant past, he will refer to how shallow and weird it is to sleep with someone you're not in love with. He takes a lot of pride and talks a lot about how he has only had 4 sexual partners in his mid 40s and always bangs on about his christian/country background and how this has given him strong (read: better) values/morals. He has gotten very annoyed even watching shows such as Girls, Looking, Fleabag etc before because he thinks they trivialise sex and relationships, and ends up having a rant about this. I am 10 years younger and I feel like his attitude is pretty old fashioned, I cant get riled up about stuff like that especially in a tv show.

He makes a lot of comments about 'city people' and how people from the countryside are generally more friendly, more reliable, more moral, etc. I have grown up in cities as he knows, and lived in major cities for 15 years as an adult. again, I never thought to judge people on city/country before!

I have had to hear the same sermon multiple times on how lying is so bad for relationships (no shit) - he seems to rank cheating/lying on a level with murder or something, because he was cheated on once. He is so black and white, I often end up pointing out that eg. my mum had an exit affair in a DV marriage, but even that to him is a stain on her character.

I have actually raised to him a few times now that if he cant accept things about me (from stupid stuff like the articles I read online, to bigger stuff like maybe being less black and white about stuff like casual sex, etc) and continues to be judgy/neg, maybe we aren't very compatible but he just maintains he thinks we are soulmates?!

It just feels like so often, I come away from conversations feeling defensive and/or invalidated, as well as insecure about myself- maybe I am shallow, etc... On a level I know it's not true, but it seems like even my stupid side interests are up for comment. I never thought that wikipedia-ing a director or watching a show about take that would lead to a negging comment about me, but it feels like he is in constant judgment! Its so annoying when I have so many interests and I am obviously no fool.

Any thoughts? He is otherwise lovely and does everything for me/us, he's kind, I just dont get this judginess. His family are kind of like this too, making out they are better than others, but he sees that in them... just not in himself.

OP posts:
Wavescrashingonthebeach · 31/01/2025 18:53

Twixtmasjigsaw · 31/01/2025 18:49

Soulmates don't make you feel like shit...

Exactly. Funnily enough I very rarely hear the word "soulmate" used by couples in a secure loving relationship, apart from rarely when one is widowed after a very lengthy marriage. Most of the time i hear of it spouted by abusive men as part of their love bombing techniques.

bellocchild · 31/01/2025 18:53

I don't like the sound of him at all, but you could turn the tables: wait until he's finished criticising and say, "Is that all for tonight's lecture on why I am inferior? Good. Shall we have some coffee?" And if he hasn't found some point in your intellect or habits to criticise, ask him if he's got anything lined up?..."You haven't had a go at my magazine reading for a while, DP!"

OneDenimRobin · 31/01/2025 18:55

Well, he’s obviously a wanker who makes himself feel powerful by putting you down. He’s not special. The world is full of men like that. What’s much more interesting is why you, an intelligent, educated, successful, independent woman, are wasting any of your time and energy on him or his pathetic little digs.

DoveLisand · 31/01/2025 18:58

God he sounds AWFUL!
why are you putting up with this?
Chippy men are the worst
pls ditch - got to be better on the market

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 19:22

DoveLisand · 31/01/2025 18:58

God he sounds AWFUL!
why are you putting up with this?
Chippy men are the worst
pls ditch - got to be better on the market

And you can always find a new partner before you leave him - as long as you don't do anything physical (riiiight) - because that is NOT cheating, according to him.

Cakeandcardio · 31/01/2025 19:24

He is insecure and he is blaming you for that. Bet he feels the right big man to make out like you are stupid. I also look up actors etc when I have watched a show. It would feel weird if someone put me down for that. The more I think about it, the more I think your partner is a right fucking arsehole.

CountessWindyBottom · 31/01/2025 19:25

This has to be AI surely?

If not, he's an insecure, feckless, controlling, nasty imbecile and you need to dump him.

Cakeandcardio · 31/01/2025 19:28

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:00

I hate that I have begun to feel like my interests are dumb or something to hide, even. Feeling like I cant watch a bbl documentary on 90s boybands on a Sunday even though it was super nostalgic for me (loved a1 and 5ive!!), or say I recognise an actor from another movie or that I like a directors work or mention that I know about the backstory of a band, because it makes me vapid. Same for if I watch or read true crime stuff. It might be a bit basic but it's how I've always relaxed. I also dont feel like spending most of my life in cities, or having had a phase casual dating, makes me a 'lesser' person, I've never met anyone who thinks like this before. I am just getting sick of it. Quite surprised by the responses (and finally feel like im not going mad.) My ex liked video games but it didnt say anything about his character to me, it was just something he had always enjoyed and it helped him relax. I certainly wouldn't have made him feel dumb for it, because he was a very intelligent guy and doing well in life. My current dp is into motorcycles and boats but I dont see it as anything other than something he enjoys, even if I dont know about it. Its so frustrating.

Edited

But surely everyone does less challenging stuff to relax? Who sits around reading Chaucer of an evening?

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 19:31

NeverDropYourMooncup · 31/01/2025 18:38

Oh, I don't know. Sometimes it's nice to have somebody around for decorative purposes for a couple of years before you move onto somebody you can actually talk to.

What has that got to do with this thread?

If he's decorative; he's a rather stressful, negative, fun sponge (abusive actually) decoration. One could find a much better decoration.

Anyway, partners for decorative purposes can waste partner-finding & child bearing years - which are far more crucial for a woman than a man. If she'd like to have a family with a good partner; times a wasting and the dating pool gets smaller and smaller.

pikkumyy77 · 31/01/2025 19:37

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:46

that's the thing, I have never hidden that I have some not very serious/intellectual interests, but I've always been that way and if he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to be with me. I wanted to be a music journo before I went down a safer career path, and I still like keeping up with what's going on in popular music, who the current actors are, watching loads of tv and chatting about it. I guess it is a respite from my quite emotionally taxing job working with young people, like escapism. I wish he didnt bring it up to try and 'get one over' on me. He also used to critique my smartphone use (which is pretty benign, I only have one form of social media which I barely check and I only text close family/friends)... before he got a smartphone!!

Urgh...

Edited

Why are you continually “proving “ ypurself here, to us? Its not necessary. He has made you self conscious and ashamed of your perfectly reasonable interests. Take a big step back and realize it is a huge mistake to be with someone this jealous snd insecure.

All the soulmate talk in the world can’t paper over his raging contempt for you.

PyongyangKipperbang · 31/01/2025 19:37

Cakeandcardio · 31/01/2025 19:28

But surely everyone does less challenging stuff to relax? Who sits around reading Chaucer of an evening?

I used to know someone who would say he did things like that! He was very impressed with himself being so much more intellectual than everyone else.

He was an insufferable tossser too, and couldnt keep a girlfriend for longer than a few weeks.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 19:44

I have a history degree and could bore for my country on a number of historical subjects, I read about it for pleasure.

I also like watching cat videos on YouTube, reading trashy erotic novels and laughed my ass off yesterday at the latest Will Ferrell/Reese Witherspoon trashy comedy (You are Cordially Invited).

Most highly intelligent and high achieving men I know are sports watching fanatics and play video games (hardly highly intellectual pursuits) etc.

It's normal/common.

You're not allowed to be normal.
You're not allowed to be yourself.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 19:48

What a pity he's hit the gym so hard to get himself a younger woman, yet can't work on his personality & issues not to abuse her and fuck it up.

He needed to work on something other than his physique.

He'll not see that though. It's women who are at fault.

MounjaroOnMyMind · 31/01/2025 19:52

What the hell are you doing with a bellend like this?

He's an underachiever who goes for more successful women in order to make them feel absolutely shit about themselves. You're the latest in a line.

Get rid, OP. You sound great - go and enjoy your life instead of putting up with this idiot who is trying to make you feel bad about yourself.

Ugh, do it now! Tell him it's over. In fact just put on a playlist of dumping songs and see if he gets the hint!

Pootlemcsmootle · 31/01/2025 19:55

Classic insecure jealous bloke. I'm afraid that unless you get half your IQ stolen, or he gets an Oxbridge degree, or both, he'll neg away until your dying day. Just dump him, he sounds bloody awful.

Reallybadidea · 31/01/2025 19:56

How have you not got the ick? I've got the ick about him on your behalf!

Mrsdyna · 31/01/2025 20:06

It seems like he's triggered by any quality of yours that he sees as vapid. It sounds like he associates a lot of these things with lacking moral character i.e sleeping around, celebrities, city people. He obviously has distaste for what he sees as shallow/superficial qualities.

Sounds like being cheated on did a number on him, so he probably feels afraid deep down that you will too.

tellmesomethingtrue · 31/01/2025 20:08

What is NEGGING?

Bananalanacake · 31/01/2025 20:19

It's where a nasty bastard makes a woman feel shit about herself so she is grateful for the tiny bits of kindness he shows which is actually not the real him. Always best to get shot of a Neggering man pronto.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 21:10

Mrsdyna · 31/01/2025 20:06

It seems like he's triggered by any quality of yours that he sees as vapid. It sounds like he associates a lot of these things with lacking moral character i.e sleeping around, celebrities, city people. He obviously has distaste for what he sees as shallow/superficial qualities.

Sounds like being cheated on did a number on him, so he probably feels afraid deep down that you will too.

He's a cheater himself.

Iaminthefly · 31/01/2025 21:12

He's an absolute dick head. Stop wasting your time on him.

Lighteningstrikes · 31/01/2025 21:47

Negging and belittling is a form of abusive.

You’re so young, find someone who actually likes you, deeply loves you and respects you.

Don’t waste time trying to change him. His ugly traits are deeply established.

treesandsun · 31/01/2025 22:34

He sounds truly awful. I can't stand people who think they are better than others because of the types of books they read or tv they watch. He sounds deeply insecure. Get out now - he won't get any better.

Jackiebrambles · 31/01/2025 22:36

Honestly what a waste of skin this bloke is, why on earth would you bother? Have some self respect, ditch his arse pronto.

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 31/01/2025 22:46

You should really sack him off. Any one that you're in a partnership with should be singing your achievements from way up high,
He's an insecure man who has probably achieved very little in his life.

My advice- dump him and find someone who is worthy of all the gifts you hold :)