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Frequently negged by partner over my interests/values/intelligence.. why?!

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springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:15

this might sound like a weird one, but I am beginning to get irritated with my dp of around 18 months and I really would appreciate some views on this. I feel like he often says mean things/put downs or negs in normal conversations and I get blindsided or more frequently now, offended and we end up arguing because I don't like feeling put down in this way. Examples would be, eg-

I've always loved movies, tv, pop culture trivia in general including actors/actresses, celebrities, popstars etc. I've been that way since I was a kid and read all the pop mags, I never saw it as a bad thing before more of a thing I do to relax, but he often brings this up in arguments. If I watch a show about 90s boybands, he will bring it up later in a more intellectual conversation saying that my interest is in boybands, his is in (whatever 'serious', scientific or whatever topic we might be discussing). Btw, I went to oxbridge and have a masters degree from UCL while he went to a vocational college, so it feels odd to have my intelligence undermined in this way. He will also say that I have an 'infatuation' with actors or famous men if I go on their wikipedia page after we watch something, even if it's just to see what else they have been in. I haven't had a celeb crush since I was a young teen, I just love that world of media/pop culture. He went in a mood after I took him to see a one man play in London once, because he said I was obviously fascinated with talented men/actors.

if I describe people generally using adjectives like their height, attractiveness, job etc he says I am overly preoccupied with these qualities and he has even said I am shallow before and that I was only with my ex for his salary. I actually was a single mum for years and built up my successful career through a lot of graft, and I've never expected to split expenses more than 50/50- in fact, I helped my ex build up his career to a double pay rise, while taking a cut of my own.

He thinks my interest in true crime is also incredibly vapid and also mentions it in arguments.

If we watch a show involving casual sex/dating, which he knows I did a lot of in my distant past, he will refer to how shallow and weird it is to sleep with someone you're not in love with. He takes a lot of pride and talks a lot about how he has only had 4 sexual partners in his mid 40s and always bangs on about his christian/country background and how this has given him strong (read: better) values/morals. He has gotten very annoyed even watching shows such as Girls, Looking, Fleabag etc before because he thinks they trivialise sex and relationships, and ends up having a rant about this. I am 10 years younger and I feel like his attitude is pretty old fashioned, I cant get riled up about stuff like that especially in a tv show.

He makes a lot of comments about 'city people' and how people from the countryside are generally more friendly, more reliable, more moral, etc. I have grown up in cities as he knows, and lived in major cities for 15 years as an adult. again, I never thought to judge people on city/country before!

I have had to hear the same sermon multiple times on how lying is so bad for relationships (no shit) - he seems to rank cheating/lying on a level with murder or something, because he was cheated on once. He is so black and white, I often end up pointing out that eg. my mum had an exit affair in a DV marriage, but even that to him is a stain on her character.

I have actually raised to him a few times now that if he cant accept things about me (from stupid stuff like the articles I read online, to bigger stuff like maybe being less black and white about stuff like casual sex, etc) and continues to be judgy/neg, maybe we aren't very compatible but he just maintains he thinks we are soulmates?!

It just feels like so often, I come away from conversations feeling defensive and/or invalidated, as well as insecure about myself- maybe I am shallow, etc... On a level I know it's not true, but it seems like even my stupid side interests are up for comment. I never thought that wikipedia-ing a director or watching a show about take that would lead to a negging comment about me, but it feels like he is in constant judgment! Its so annoying when I have so many interests and I am obviously no fool.

Any thoughts? He is otherwise lovely and does everything for me/us, he's kind, I just dont get this judginess. His family are kind of like this too, making out they are better than others, but he sees that in them... just not in himself.

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HellonHeels · 31/01/2025 13:47

He's appalling. Trying to drag you down to feel better about his lower level of education.

No idea why you're wasting time with this waste of space. Better alone than badly accompanied.

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:47

He went to cooking school and studied food science so he is definitely smart and talented as I always tell him, but he must always bang on about how he was top of every class, graduated top of his class, he was voted most likely to succeed.. and on and on. But then he will also gloat about how he doesn't set store by career or money and he also gets riled up if any character in a show seems to be prioritising career/money in a partner. Unsurprising to note, he is a serial underachiever despite his talent/intelligence and this is obviously a sore point but he absolutely denies that. He prefers to put others down.

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bombastix · 31/01/2025 13:49

OP his motivation is not a good one. You being clever and having ambition is partly why he hangs around. He is most likely a resentful man who enjoys being unkind to women and particularly those who he thinks are too clever.

Get rid of them. Partners should not belittle each other.

amoreoamicizia · 31/01/2025 13:49

That was a lot of words to tell us he's a dick.

bombastix · 31/01/2025 13:50

Btw I bet he wants money or is interested in yours!

Get rid.

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:51

I had to laugh out loud when he said that one study he read 'by Harvard' said that young women have never been unhappier than they are now (due to eg. casual sex), when I disputed this as a generalisation he acted like I can't understand or appreciate a study by Harvard! I read a humanities subject at oxbridge ffs.

also, when he said that lie detectors are 100% accurate and when I disputed this he said lie detectors and forensic science are one of his interests that he reads to relax, while I prefer actors...'

Its quite funny/ridiculous really...

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bombastix · 31/01/2025 13:52

Don't you understand that those Harvard attacks are actually passive aggressive attacks on you?

This is not a debate. He is telling you he hates you

Dror · 31/01/2025 13:52

Never degrade yourself by analysing a man. Value your time and don't date males who don't like you.

amoreoamicizia · 31/01/2025 13:53

I bet all of us commenting have "been there". Why are some men like this? When you are clear of them you look back and cringe.

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 31/01/2025 13:53

Oh come on OP, you are as far away from soulmates as you could be.

What's negging or is it a typo for nagging?

Ahsheeit · 31/01/2025 13:54

Well, there's an insecure little man who's deflecting his own perceived inadequacies onto you! It's like a toddler screaming that they can run faster than you can and having a tantrum about it. Urgh, what a turn off. Get shot, you can do much better!

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:55

negging is making digs at your partner that usually can be passed off as 'a joke', generally making a negative out of something to blindside them.

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Newschool25 · 31/01/2025 13:55

18mths into a relationship - this is a massive massive red flag. I'm usually a 'work to keep a relationship' kinda person, but this gives me all kinds of icky vibes. You went Oxford, he didn't and he's making you second guess your own intelligence - not only that - he's trying to take away your pleasure in your downtime and making you question the morality of your upbringing and lifestyle.

He's deliberately trying to get under your skin and attack your confidence. What comes next when he's succeeded?

18mths into a relationship - both people are generally pretending to like football/ or at least smile and nod enthusiastically because they just want to spend time with their new romance and recognise their preferences, hobbies and background is a fundamental part of who they are. They aren't doing this.

Don't walk OP - Run.

PunishmentRoundupWithJoon · 31/01/2025 13:57

This man is appalling. He's clearly trying to put you down all over the place (as you know) so WHY are you putting up with this? He's pathetic. This is abusive and he's only going to get worse. Why on earth are you staying with him??

FrustratedandBemused · 31/01/2025 13:57

He sounds like an absolute prick. Chuck him back in the sea.

RightOnTheEdge · 31/01/2025 13:58

I have consulted the tarot cards about this and they said

Frequently negged by partner over my interests/values/intelligence.. why?!
MemorableTrenchcoat · 31/01/2025 13:59

So, he’s horrible to you, but otherwise lovely? What does that even mean?

Gloriainextremis · 31/01/2025 14:00

He's a totally up-himself dickhead who belittles you. I very much doubt that he views you (or any other woman) as his equal.

Why does he do it? Because he enjoys doing it, and it makes him feel big and clever. Just dump him.

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:00

I hate that I have begun to feel like my interests are dumb or something to hide, even. Feeling like I cant watch a bbl documentary on 90s boybands on a Sunday even though it was super nostalgic for me (loved a1 and 5ive!!), or say I recognise an actor from another movie or that I like a directors work or mention that I know about the backstory of a band, because it makes me vapid. Same for if I watch or read true crime stuff. It might be a bit basic but it's how I've always relaxed. I also dont feel like spending most of my life in cities, or having had a phase casual dating, makes me a 'lesser' person, I've never met anyone who thinks like this before. I am just getting sick of it. Quite surprised by the responses (and finally feel like im not going mad.) My ex liked video games but it didnt say anything about his character to me, it was just something he had always enjoyed and it helped him relax. I certainly wouldn't have made him feel dumb for it, because he was a very intelligent guy and doing well in life. My current dp is into motorcycles and boats but I dont see it as anything other than something he enjoys, even if I dont know about it. Its so frustrating.

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amoreoamicizia · 31/01/2025 14:00

I'm not normally against age gaps where the younger partner is, say, 25+ but here it seems to be also significant.

TwistedWonder · 31/01/2025 14:01

You’re allowed to like whatever you like without having to justify it to anyone. If you’ve got a First from Oxford and want to watch Love Island than WTAF is that to do with anyone else?

Your bf sounds like a navel gazing smug, faux superior snidey rude sneering judgemental wanker - why waste your life being looked down on by this insufferable prick?

Is there an age gap by any chance?

  • Edited as just seen you’re a decade younger. That’s probably also a factor as he sees himself as older and wiser. A woman his own age would tell him to fuck off, as you should tbh.
Beanie567 · 31/01/2025 14:02

Are you actually going to stay with him?

Gloriainextremis · 31/01/2025 14:03

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:00

I hate that I have begun to feel like my interests are dumb or something to hide, even. Feeling like I cant watch a bbl documentary on 90s boybands on a Sunday even though it was super nostalgic for me (loved a1 and 5ive!!), or say I recognise an actor from another movie or that I like a directors work or mention that I know about the backstory of a band, because it makes me vapid. Same for if I watch or read true crime stuff. It might be a bit basic but it's how I've always relaxed. I also dont feel like spending most of my life in cities, or having had a phase casual dating, makes me a 'lesser' person, I've never met anyone who thinks like this before. I am just getting sick of it. Quite surprised by the responses (and finally feel like im not going mad.) My ex liked video games but it didnt say anything about his character to me, it was just something he had always enjoyed and it helped him relax. I certainly wouldn't have made him feel dumb for it, because he was a very intelligent guy and doing well in life. My current dp is into motorcycles and boats but I dont see it as anything other than something he enjoys, even if I dont know about it. Its so frustrating.

Edited

Why should you have to justify any of your likes or interests to him?

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:03

10 year age gap. He is self confessedly a 'country boy' who has always worked with his hands. I am a city dweller until quite recently, with a humanities background and a job working with people/computers. That's the gap that feels bigger, tbh.

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flyinghen · 31/01/2025 14:04

I'd be leaving asap, he sounds like a massive twat!