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Frequently negged by partner over my interests/values/intelligence.. why?!

238 replies

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:15

this might sound like a weird one, but I am beginning to get irritated with my dp of around 18 months and I really would appreciate some views on this. I feel like he often says mean things/put downs or negs in normal conversations and I get blindsided or more frequently now, offended and we end up arguing because I don't like feeling put down in this way. Examples would be, eg-

I've always loved movies, tv, pop culture trivia in general including actors/actresses, celebrities, popstars etc. I've been that way since I was a kid and read all the pop mags, I never saw it as a bad thing before more of a thing I do to relax, but he often brings this up in arguments. If I watch a show about 90s boybands, he will bring it up later in a more intellectual conversation saying that my interest is in boybands, his is in (whatever 'serious', scientific or whatever topic we might be discussing). Btw, I went to oxbridge and have a masters degree from UCL while he went to a vocational college, so it feels odd to have my intelligence undermined in this way. He will also say that I have an 'infatuation' with actors or famous men if I go on their wikipedia page after we watch something, even if it's just to see what else they have been in. I haven't had a celeb crush since I was a young teen, I just love that world of media/pop culture. He went in a mood after I took him to see a one man play in London once, because he said I was obviously fascinated with talented men/actors.

if I describe people generally using adjectives like their height, attractiveness, job etc he says I am overly preoccupied with these qualities and he has even said I am shallow before and that I was only with my ex for his salary. I actually was a single mum for years and built up my successful career through a lot of graft, and I've never expected to split expenses more than 50/50- in fact, I helped my ex build up his career to a double pay rise, while taking a cut of my own.

He thinks my interest in true crime is also incredibly vapid and also mentions it in arguments.

If we watch a show involving casual sex/dating, which he knows I did a lot of in my distant past, he will refer to how shallow and weird it is to sleep with someone you're not in love with. He takes a lot of pride and talks a lot about how he has only had 4 sexual partners in his mid 40s and always bangs on about his christian/country background and how this has given him strong (read: better) values/morals. He has gotten very annoyed even watching shows such as Girls, Looking, Fleabag etc before because he thinks they trivialise sex and relationships, and ends up having a rant about this. I am 10 years younger and I feel like his attitude is pretty old fashioned, I cant get riled up about stuff like that especially in a tv show.

He makes a lot of comments about 'city people' and how people from the countryside are generally more friendly, more reliable, more moral, etc. I have grown up in cities as he knows, and lived in major cities for 15 years as an adult. again, I never thought to judge people on city/country before!

I have had to hear the same sermon multiple times on how lying is so bad for relationships (no shit) - he seems to rank cheating/lying on a level with murder or something, because he was cheated on once. He is so black and white, I often end up pointing out that eg. my mum had an exit affair in a DV marriage, but even that to him is a stain on her character.

I have actually raised to him a few times now that if he cant accept things about me (from stupid stuff like the articles I read online, to bigger stuff like maybe being less black and white about stuff like casual sex, etc) and continues to be judgy/neg, maybe we aren't very compatible but he just maintains he thinks we are soulmates?!

It just feels like so often, I come away from conversations feeling defensive and/or invalidated, as well as insecure about myself- maybe I am shallow, etc... On a level I know it's not true, but it seems like even my stupid side interests are up for comment. I never thought that wikipedia-ing a director or watching a show about take that would lead to a negging comment about me, but it feels like he is in constant judgment! Its so annoying when I have so many interests and I am obviously no fool.

Any thoughts? He is otherwise lovely and does everything for me/us, he's kind, I just dont get this judginess. His family are kind of like this too, making out they are better than others, but he sees that in them... just not in himself.

OP posts:
Comtesse · 31/01/2025 16:21

Why on earth are you putting up with this insecure tosser?

He sounds like a massive BORE ugh. Nothing more tedious than a fragile male ego.

Bananalanacake · 31/01/2025 16:25

Don't let him move in with you, ever, he'd get on your wick when you settle down to watch TV.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 31/01/2025 16:26

Can you not tell him to shove his BTEC in Shovelling Sheep Shit up his arse and go bother somebody who's impressed by his knowledge of the breeding habits of the common dung beetle?

LivelyMintViper · 31/01/2025 16:26

Have you tried telling him to bore off every time he starts?

Kbroughton · 31/01/2025 16:29

Not another one! He is otherwise lovely and does everything for me/us, he's kind, except he has misogynist views, de-values you, makes you feel you aren't intelligent, lectures you over and over, tries to get one over on you, makes you feel insecure and shallow and doesn't listen to you. But other than that you are soul mates. Yes he is a peach.

StMarie4me · 31/01/2025 16:35

He's an arse.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 16:41

He's insecure/has a chip on his shoulder about pretty much everything; which he takes out on you.

I don't think he's ever going to stop doing that, because that would require a vast change in his character and thinking.

I've experienced similar and it kept going.

It's abuse, really.

I'm.sorry but I'd look for someone who's not like this.

ScrambledSmegs · 31/01/2025 16:42

He doesn't think you're his soulmate but he's worked out that it's a good word to use to keep you sweet while he's denigrating your interests.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 16:44

Oh and as others have said, you can have a interest in all sorts of things - high brow and low brow. It doesn't mean anything, he's clearly got a massive chip on his shoulder about you being an Oxbridge graduate etc. - to be making such a deal about your lighter interests.

BlwyddynNewydd · 31/01/2025 16:46

He's a nob

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 16:46

He will also say that I have an 'infatuation' with actors or famous men if I go on their wikipedia page after we watch something, even if it's just to see what else they have been in. I haven't had a celeb crush since I was a young teen, I just love that world of media/pop culture. He went in a mood after I took him to see a one man play in London once, because he said I was obviously fascinated with talented men/actors

Irrationally jealous and insecure....what fun.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 16:49

He thinks my interest in true crime is also incredibly vapid and also mentions it in arguments

I'm pretty baffled as to how an interest in crime is vapid. I actually wonder how anyone who thinks - wouldn't wonder about the circumstances in which crimes happen and want to understand them.

Alalalala · 31/01/2025 16:49

If you stay with him a moment longer you’ll prove him right OP.

Vaxtable · 31/01/2025 16:52

He’s not going to change, and he is not listening to you when you say how he acts upsets you

so either you have to put up with it, or leave

i would do the latter, life is to short to stay with someone like him

EleanorRavenclaw · 31/01/2025 16:55

I was knackered just reading this I can’t imagine living it. He’s horrible to you OP you don’t have to live like that.

ThoroughlyModernNotMillie · 31/01/2025 16:57

Only 18 months together, why are you still with this man? It's not that complicated, leave him!
I can't understand why an intelligent woman would even entertain being with someone who clearly doesn't like or respect her. Is he going to change? Of course not. It won't get better, surely you can see that?
Are you that desperate for a man, any man, that you put up with this? Because otherwise I can't see why you're still with him, a good man who loves you would not treat you like that.

bombastix · 31/01/2025 16:59

Whatever you do, don't have children with him, give up your job and go and live with him.

Because this never never gets better

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 17:07

He sounds older than you too op (?)

My ex like this was also older.

They can't believe they've pulled a younger attractive, well educated woman with a decent job; and think you're going to leave or cheat sooner or later. So the constant put downs are for various reasons, the main two being;

To try to bring down your confidence and self esteem so (in his insecure twisted mind) you'll be less likely to leave/cheat.

To make themselves feel better (by devaluing you) in case you do leave or cheat.

It's because he's older and inferior in many ways to you. He feels he's not good enough for you. He feels you could do better than him. He feels he's punching above his weight.

You have to consider whether he's correct (he is).

You also have to consider whether he'd ever stop this behaviour. He might lessen it a bit if you get tied down with him with a couple of kids etc. and he feels more in control ....but what a shit situation (even if that happens). You shouldn't have to put up with this, it's not healthy or fair and it's not a good relationship.

mihinobis · 31/01/2025 17:07

He's a wanker.
Bin.

Life is too short to waste on someone like this

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 17:13

I see now he's a decade older than you!

He must be wondering how the fuck the pulled you.

He's definitely putting you down and devaluing you because he can't believe he did/can't believe it will last.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/01/2025 17:18

I am 10 years younger and I feel like his attitude is pretty old fashioned

I'm late 40s, my h is mid 40s ..... And he does not have views about sex like this.

We socialised from the 90s onwards when clubbing, recreational drugs, drinking and casual sex were all very very common. Almost everyone went through a partying and bed hopping phase - usually for relatively short periods between relationships, while single, on holidays etc.

I know other men my age who likewise see it as normal.

His views are not average at all for a mid 40s man.

Sherararara · 31/01/2025 17:19

LadyKenya · 31/01/2025 13:18

maybe we aren't very compatible.

Yes you are right.

Yeah YA THINK!

BitOutOfPractice · 31/01/2025 17:20

It’s because he’s intimidated by you. He feels small compared to you. And slso Because he isn’t very nice.

Maray1967 · 31/01/2025 17:21

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:15

I just dont get that because he goes for successful intelligent woman, his ex wife was a doctor who went to oxbridge too and I am a professional as well, it makes no sense.

That makes perfect sense. He goes for clever women - so he can try to put them down.

OP, this is not good.

heyhopotato · 31/01/2025 17:29

Agree he sounds very old fashioned with dated views, I'd be calling him grandad every time he said something like that.

Until you said his age and that he had a good body I was picturing you dating Jacob Rees-Mogg.

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