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Frequently negged by partner over my interests/values/intelligence.. why?!

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springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:15

this might sound like a weird one, but I am beginning to get irritated with my dp of around 18 months and I really would appreciate some views on this. I feel like he often says mean things/put downs or negs in normal conversations and I get blindsided or more frequently now, offended and we end up arguing because I don't like feeling put down in this way. Examples would be, eg-

I've always loved movies, tv, pop culture trivia in general including actors/actresses, celebrities, popstars etc. I've been that way since I was a kid and read all the pop mags, I never saw it as a bad thing before more of a thing I do to relax, but he often brings this up in arguments. If I watch a show about 90s boybands, he will bring it up later in a more intellectual conversation saying that my interest is in boybands, his is in (whatever 'serious', scientific or whatever topic we might be discussing). Btw, I went to oxbridge and have a masters degree from UCL while he went to a vocational college, so it feels odd to have my intelligence undermined in this way. He will also say that I have an 'infatuation' with actors or famous men if I go on their wikipedia page after we watch something, even if it's just to see what else they have been in. I haven't had a celeb crush since I was a young teen, I just love that world of media/pop culture. He went in a mood after I took him to see a one man play in London once, because he said I was obviously fascinated with talented men/actors.

if I describe people generally using adjectives like their height, attractiveness, job etc he says I am overly preoccupied with these qualities and he has even said I am shallow before and that I was only with my ex for his salary. I actually was a single mum for years and built up my successful career through a lot of graft, and I've never expected to split expenses more than 50/50- in fact, I helped my ex build up his career to a double pay rise, while taking a cut of my own.

He thinks my interest in true crime is also incredibly vapid and also mentions it in arguments.

If we watch a show involving casual sex/dating, which he knows I did a lot of in my distant past, he will refer to how shallow and weird it is to sleep with someone you're not in love with. He takes a lot of pride and talks a lot about how he has only had 4 sexual partners in his mid 40s and always bangs on about his christian/country background and how this has given him strong (read: better) values/morals. He has gotten very annoyed even watching shows such as Girls, Looking, Fleabag etc before because he thinks they trivialise sex and relationships, and ends up having a rant about this. I am 10 years younger and I feel like his attitude is pretty old fashioned, I cant get riled up about stuff like that especially in a tv show.

He makes a lot of comments about 'city people' and how people from the countryside are generally more friendly, more reliable, more moral, etc. I have grown up in cities as he knows, and lived in major cities for 15 years as an adult. again, I never thought to judge people on city/country before!

I have had to hear the same sermon multiple times on how lying is so bad for relationships (no shit) - he seems to rank cheating/lying on a level with murder or something, because he was cheated on once. He is so black and white, I often end up pointing out that eg. my mum had an exit affair in a DV marriage, but even that to him is a stain on her character.

I have actually raised to him a few times now that if he cant accept things about me (from stupid stuff like the articles I read online, to bigger stuff like maybe being less black and white about stuff like casual sex, etc) and continues to be judgy/neg, maybe we aren't very compatible but he just maintains he thinks we are soulmates?!

It just feels like so often, I come away from conversations feeling defensive and/or invalidated, as well as insecure about myself- maybe I am shallow, etc... On a level I know it's not true, but it seems like even my stupid side interests are up for comment. I never thought that wikipedia-ing a director or watching a show about take that would lead to a negging comment about me, but it feels like he is in constant judgment! Its so annoying when I have so many interests and I am obviously no fool.

Any thoughts? He is otherwise lovely and does everything for me/us, he's kind, I just dont get this judginess. His family are kind of like this too, making out they are better than others, but he sees that in them... just not in himself.

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Lifelover16 · 01/02/2025 12:00

He sounds nasty and jealous, and belittles you to make himself feel better.

Get him some salt and viinegar to go with that massive chip on his shoulder then leave. You don’t need him in your life.

Dery · 01/02/2025 12:14

@springhazsprung - not RTFT but have read all your posts and am struggling to understand why you’re still with him.

Okay - so he’s a bit of a looker and good at sex, which has value - but the endless sniping and put downs would be it for me. Most of your relationship is conducted outside the bedroom after all.

The under-achieving is concerning - it perhaps comes from things coming too easy when he was young. And I struggle to believe he left his wife for a younger woman without any prior intimacy occurring so he may not be as honest as he presents himself as being.

Overall, he’s not sounding like a keeper.

Lurkingandlearning · 01/02/2025 12:54

I was going to ask what sort of wizardry he performed in bed to make up for being such a monumental knob as a person. Then I got to your post saying that part of your relationship is good. Well that’s nice, but the rest sounds dreadful. It sounds like he is completely jealous of everything you are and everything you do. I’m not sure that leaves room for liking you let alone love. And he’s got a tactless twat for a mother too.

You sound great. Why are you with this pillock?

pikkumyy77 · 01/02/2025 13:01

As an old woman once said to me “smart, smart, and still you are dumb!”

what is the value if your ambition, professional skills, and oxbridge education if you submit yourself to the rule and judgment of these troglodytes? Come on! Rather a dildo kept charged by the bed than this wanker, yammering besides thee in the wilderness.

blueshoes · 01/02/2025 13:23

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:51

I had to laugh out loud when he said that one study he read 'by Harvard' said that young women have never been unhappier than they are now (due to eg. casual sex), when I disputed this as a generalisation he acted like I can't understand or appreciate a study by Harvard! I read a humanities subject at oxbridge ffs.

also, when he said that lie detectors are 100% accurate and when I disputed this he said lie detectors and forensic science are one of his interests that he reads to relax, while I prefer actors...'

Its quite funny/ridiculous really...

He has poor critical thinking skills. That would put me right off. You cannot argue with a brick wall. You can never get through to them (because they are a brick wall).

blueshoes · 01/02/2025 13:29

Since you are in your mid-thirties, if you wanted kids, please sack him off now and find a better life partner.

There is no way you should have children with this dickhead. He will make the children disrespect you as well despite you putting in all the hard yards supporting the whole family.

Read this thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5253298-neurodivergent-husband-has-brought-me-to-my-knees-am-i-unreasonable-to-leave-him.

RandomMess · 01/02/2025 13:34

He sounds insufferable.

I would run away fast tbh.

springhazsprung · 01/02/2025 13:35

reading through this thread today,. Very interesting. I'll return with thoughts later, and no, I'm not an AI, and no, I haven't blocked/left him yet. Lots to think about

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StrawberryDream24 · 01/02/2025 13:37

I had to laugh out loud when he said that one study he read 'by Harvard' said that young women have never been unhappier than they are now (due to eg. casual sex)

This is red pill, incel, Andrew Tate, mgtow etc. script.

It is rooted in men wanting control of women.

(Fwiw I actually don't think casual sex benefits most women, and I also hate the fallacy of mistaking sexual liberation/freedom for sexual promiscuity ..... However that's for entirely different reasons than why these "men" are against it).

As I mentioned above, Im not surprised he's got a gym body; I noticed this red pill shit all over the male dominated fitness forums I used to be on.

DoveLisand · 01/02/2025 13:57

Why would you be with someone that is rude to you? I mean, really why? either he has worn you down already (get out now!) or you have terrible low esteem (get out now and have therapy).

he is not going to get any better. You’ll just make yourself smaller for him.

and if you stay and have kids, well maybe you’ll be one of those ‘AIBU two small kids, work full time earning the family money and DH only goes to the gym and does the minimum around the house’. I always wonder where they start from…..

RandomMess · 01/02/2025 14:29

I wants an intelligent educated woman to make him look good yet it also makes him feel very threatened.

He has issues, don't make them yours to deal with or solve.

StrawberryDream24 · 01/02/2025 17:20

RandomMess · 01/02/2025 14:29

I wants an intelligent educated woman to make him look good yet it also makes him feel very threatened.

He has issues, don't make them yours to deal with or solve.

Yep.

He left her!! for another younger woman.. but this doesnt count as cheating to him because he didn't cross any physical lines with the woman before he left.... AFAIK his ex wife was quite distraught and had to have a lot of therapy which now makes sense to me.

Look at what he did to his Oxbridge educated Dr ex wife ..... cheated on her with a younger woman ..... and I bet he fucked her head the way he's trying to fuck yours for a long time before the cheating & dumping too ...the whole relationship is probably why she had to have a lot of therapy.

He wants/thinks he's entitled to accomplished women, but he doesn't actually feel worthy of them/confident with them without tearing them down.

He ripped her to bits and look at what he's doing to you.

He's punching above his weight age wise, education wise, career wise, probably looks wise, and he knows it.
He'd be nearly 50 by the time you were settled together, tried to conceive, allowed a bit of time for that to happen
and got through nearly a year of pregnancy; not that I would advise you to keep seeing him let alone bring kids into the works with him.

I would concentrate all my energies on finding a better candidate. He's a decade older than you and he's an abuser.

CharlotteLightandDark · 01/02/2025 18:59

ypu could downgrade him to fwb and spend limited time with him outside the bedroom, but if you’re looking for a real relationship he is not it! Nasty insecure little man.

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