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Frequently negged by partner over my interests/values/intelligence.. why?!

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springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:15

this might sound like a weird one, but I am beginning to get irritated with my dp of around 18 months and I really would appreciate some views on this. I feel like he often says mean things/put downs or negs in normal conversations and I get blindsided or more frequently now, offended and we end up arguing because I don't like feeling put down in this way. Examples would be, eg-

I've always loved movies, tv, pop culture trivia in general including actors/actresses, celebrities, popstars etc. I've been that way since I was a kid and read all the pop mags, I never saw it as a bad thing before more of a thing I do to relax, but he often brings this up in arguments. If I watch a show about 90s boybands, he will bring it up later in a more intellectual conversation saying that my interest is in boybands, his is in (whatever 'serious', scientific or whatever topic we might be discussing). Btw, I went to oxbridge and have a masters degree from UCL while he went to a vocational college, so it feels odd to have my intelligence undermined in this way. He will also say that I have an 'infatuation' with actors or famous men if I go on their wikipedia page after we watch something, even if it's just to see what else they have been in. I haven't had a celeb crush since I was a young teen, I just love that world of media/pop culture. He went in a mood after I took him to see a one man play in London once, because he said I was obviously fascinated with talented men/actors.

if I describe people generally using adjectives like their height, attractiveness, job etc he says I am overly preoccupied with these qualities and he has even said I am shallow before and that I was only with my ex for his salary. I actually was a single mum for years and built up my successful career through a lot of graft, and I've never expected to split expenses more than 50/50- in fact, I helped my ex build up his career to a double pay rise, while taking a cut of my own.

He thinks my interest in true crime is also incredibly vapid and also mentions it in arguments.

If we watch a show involving casual sex/dating, which he knows I did a lot of in my distant past, he will refer to how shallow and weird it is to sleep with someone you're not in love with. He takes a lot of pride and talks a lot about how he has only had 4 sexual partners in his mid 40s and always bangs on about his christian/country background and how this has given him strong (read: better) values/morals. He has gotten very annoyed even watching shows such as Girls, Looking, Fleabag etc before because he thinks they trivialise sex and relationships, and ends up having a rant about this. I am 10 years younger and I feel like his attitude is pretty old fashioned, I cant get riled up about stuff like that especially in a tv show.

He makes a lot of comments about 'city people' and how people from the countryside are generally more friendly, more reliable, more moral, etc. I have grown up in cities as he knows, and lived in major cities for 15 years as an adult. again, I never thought to judge people on city/country before!

I have had to hear the same sermon multiple times on how lying is so bad for relationships (no shit) - he seems to rank cheating/lying on a level with murder or something, because he was cheated on once. He is so black and white, I often end up pointing out that eg. my mum had an exit affair in a DV marriage, but even that to him is a stain on her character.

I have actually raised to him a few times now that if he cant accept things about me (from stupid stuff like the articles I read online, to bigger stuff like maybe being less black and white about stuff like casual sex, etc) and continues to be judgy/neg, maybe we aren't very compatible but he just maintains he thinks we are soulmates?!

It just feels like so often, I come away from conversations feeling defensive and/or invalidated, as well as insecure about myself- maybe I am shallow, etc... On a level I know it's not true, but it seems like even my stupid side interests are up for comment. I never thought that wikipedia-ing a director or watching a show about take that would lead to a negging comment about me, but it feels like he is in constant judgment! Its so annoying when I have so many interests and I am obviously no fool.

Any thoughts? He is otherwise lovely and does everything for me/us, he's kind, I just dont get this judginess. His family are kind of like this too, making out they are better than others, but he sees that in them... just not in himself.

OP posts:
3luckystars · 31/01/2025 14:22

There’s your answer so. Cop on and stop wasting your life. If you are looking for a sign, here is is:

SIGN

bombastix · 31/01/2025 14:22

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:20

He left her!! for another younger woman.. but this doesnt count as cheating to him because he didn't cross any physical lines with the woman before he left.... AFAIK his ex wife was quite distraught and had to have a lot of therapy which now makes sense to me....

I once by accident found a list he had made of the qualities he wanted in a partner and it included 'beautiful', 'intelligent', 'ambitious'... he is an underemployed man in his mid 40s who most people mistake for older. I feel bad for saying that and I would never say it to him but he seems to expect so much of others but not himself.

Is that what he told you?

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:23

uhhh when he talks about my 'past', as though I have some kind of criminal background (more like I dated around in my 20s), it makes me cringe!!

And how mad he got at the show Fleabag I was watching, because the woman talked openly about sex. He knew I loved that play/tv show, and that I had written a similar play when I was at uni! He didnt seem to see a connection between criticising it and criticising me. He got in a mood and made a snide comment to me the other day because I compared a situation in a show to a situation I had with a long ago boyfriend. I think he wishes all women had no exes and were blind to all other men.

OP posts:
Dragonfly97 · 31/01/2025 14:23

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:15

I just dont get that because he goes for successful intelligent woman, his ex wife was a doctor who went to oxbridge too and I am a professional as well, it makes no sense.

He obviously feels inadequate. I had a boyfriend who started to do this; little digs, put - downs, undermining me, it escalated to shouting, then violence. I left him; don't stay with someone who erodes your self confidence, because that's what he's doing. You will start to doubt yourself. You sound lovely, and you're entitled to have any interests you want! I like reading about UFOs, I have a pond and I love reading about pondlife, and my DH looks for stuff I might like. I feel completely relaxed about my interests & passions, and so should you be. Your boyfriend should have your back and support you, not sneer and make digs. Get rid of him.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/01/2025 14:23

Imagine your best friend was telling you about her new partner, @springhazsprung, and she was saying all the things you are saying - would you tell her he was her soulmate, or that he was lovely and caring? Or would you tell her he is an insecure, abusive jerk and she should want so, so much better for herself?

bombastix · 31/01/2025 14:23

I'm guessing you are young OP. He is playing you like a fiddle.

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:25

I'm in mid 30s so not especially young?

OP posts:
Mizztikle · 31/01/2025 14:25

Put him in the bin and go binge watch some music documentaries with some wine and a takeaway.

PickledElectricity · 31/01/2025 14:26

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:23

uhhh when he talks about my 'past', as though I have some kind of criminal background (more like I dated around in my 20s), it makes me cringe!!

And how mad he got at the show Fleabag I was watching, because the woman talked openly about sex. He knew I loved that play/tv show, and that I had written a similar play when I was at uni! He didnt seem to see a connection between criticising it and criticising me. He got in a mood and made a snide comment to me the other day because I compared a situation in a show to a situation I had with a long ago boyfriend. I think he wishes all women had no exes and were blind to all other men.

OP you can't possibly be this dim. I can only assume he's incredible in bed or something to make you keep your blinkers on so tightly.

Of course he knows there's a connection there, that's why he's saying it.

lottiegarbanzo · 31/01/2025 14:27

He wishes he was up to spec as your soul mate but knows he isn't. Massive insecurity, so tries to tear you down.

Rise above, fly away.

category12 · 31/01/2025 14:29

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:15

I just dont get that because he goes for successful intelligent woman, his ex wife was a doctor who went to oxbridge too and I am a professional as well, it makes no sense.

I bet he took great pleasure in tearing her down too.

He's the type of man who sees a bright competent woman as a challenge to be broken down.

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:29

He is great in bed, yes, and in very good physical shape which is one of the reasons I was attracted to him, but all this is turning me off and so I dont care so much about that anymore. its hard to enjoy sex with someone who trivialises you so much or makes nasty callbacks to stupid things you've said in unrelated arguments. I dont think it'll change... last time we stayed at his mums I had to endure her doing a monologue about how people in the city are lazier and more shallow than people in the country... GROAN. They come from an incredibly un-diverse rural area and are very judgy.

OP posts:
Waterboatlass · 31/01/2025 14:33

He isn't your match so don't waste any more time on him.

It's perfectly normal to have a range of interests encompassing 'high and low culture', whatever your level of education. It's all there to be enjoyed and makes for interesting conversations.

Sounds like he is troubled by some very restrictive expectations and prejudices. I wouldn't get any further involved.

bombastix · 31/01/2025 14:35

Don't tell me that you have all these petty arguments about your stupid and then you both have sex OP. Wake up

Chocoholicnightmare · 31/01/2025 14:36

He sounds like a tiresome, hypocritical, insecure bore. A bit like my ex husband...If someone is not making you feel good about yourself, it's time to re think the relationship. He won't change, so you need to decide whether you can live like this.

cordeliavorkosigan · 31/01/2025 14:36

I agree with previous posters that he clearly does not like you. Undermining your confidence and keeping you feeling inferior, he might like that. He might like that he has a partner.
But actually does he like you, for you?
No.
Party of liking someone is liking talking to them, liking to be together, respecting them, sharing interests and activities..
I think he'll try to keep undermining you until you're a shell of your former self unless you get out.

godmum56 · 31/01/2025 14:38

my usual question really. Why are you still there?

TwistedWonder · 31/01/2025 14:39

OP - everyone is giving you really clear responses about his behaviour and you just keep coming back with examples wanting to know why he treats you like shit on his shoe.

It doesn’t matter why, he does it and that’s all that’s relevant here.

You need to understand yourself and why you have tolerated being treated like an inferior creature who is only worth sex and being sneered at. He will keep putting you down u til you’re a broken shell.

What does this man bring to your life that’s making you stay?

Unlike many of the women who come on here trapped in shitty relationship, you have your own means and you’re not dependant on him. Free yourself

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/01/2025 14:41

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:51

I had to laugh out loud when he said that one study he read 'by Harvard' said that young women have never been unhappier than they are now (due to eg. casual sex), when I disputed this as a generalisation he acted like I can't understand or appreciate a study by Harvard! I read a humanities subject at oxbridge ffs.

also, when he said that lie detectors are 100% accurate and when I disputed this he said lie detectors and forensic science are one of his interests that he reads to relax, while I prefer actors...'

Its quite funny/ridiculous really...

Thick, insecure and mean.

Oh, and a lot older.

Chuck him back.

yeesh · 31/01/2025 14:44

He is utterly vile. Why on earth are you putting up with this? Apart from anything else the constant arguments are not normal in such a short amount of time together. He sounds as if he goes after women like you just to bring them down

whatapalarva · 31/01/2025 14:44

Keep 'em coming OP this is brightening my day! I sense you have checked out now anyway. Staying with him for entertainment value now??!!

Billyblue47 · 31/01/2025 14:45

He's a nasty bastard. He's belittling, undermining, disrespectful and downright rude. He treats you less than, probably because he's insecure, because you allow it. You've been together for less than 2 years. This is the honeymoon period. It will only get worse. Dump his arse and be with someone that actually likes and respects you. Someone that elevates you rather than shrinks you.

Legoninjago1 · 31/01/2025 14:46

What the hell OP. Ugh. He's deeply, deeply insecure and resentful. Yuck.

Baileysandcream · 31/01/2025 14:46

He sounds deeply insecure (although he is probably lacks the self awareness to realise it and would never admit to it) and very judgemental of others. You don't sound compatitble or that you share the same values. 18 months seems a reasonable amount of time to have given things a try, but to realise that this isn't what you want to continue with.

What do you want in a partner?

For me it would be someone who is kind, warm, funny, brightens my day, lifts me up, supports me, laughs with me but not at me, respects me and encourages me to follow my dreams. I couldn't tolerate being with someone who actively tries to bring me down or constantly criticises me and my interests. Even if I don't share the same interests/hobbies as a partner - I can be respectful of their choices and encourage them to go off and enjoy their thing, while I enjoy mine.

What positives does he bring to your life?

bombastix · 31/01/2025 14:46

If this is true OP, he's very clever, and you are a dumb one because you will not see what everyone else can see. in plain sight.

Sorry to be harsh.

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