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Frequently negged by partner over my interests/values/intelligence.. why?!

238 replies

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:15

this might sound like a weird one, but I am beginning to get irritated with my dp of around 18 months and I really would appreciate some views on this. I feel like he often says mean things/put downs or negs in normal conversations and I get blindsided or more frequently now, offended and we end up arguing because I don't like feeling put down in this way. Examples would be, eg-

I've always loved movies, tv, pop culture trivia in general including actors/actresses, celebrities, popstars etc. I've been that way since I was a kid and read all the pop mags, I never saw it as a bad thing before more of a thing I do to relax, but he often brings this up in arguments. If I watch a show about 90s boybands, he will bring it up later in a more intellectual conversation saying that my interest is in boybands, his is in (whatever 'serious', scientific or whatever topic we might be discussing). Btw, I went to oxbridge and have a masters degree from UCL while he went to a vocational college, so it feels odd to have my intelligence undermined in this way. He will also say that I have an 'infatuation' with actors or famous men if I go on their wikipedia page after we watch something, even if it's just to see what else they have been in. I haven't had a celeb crush since I was a young teen, I just love that world of media/pop culture. He went in a mood after I took him to see a one man play in London once, because he said I was obviously fascinated with talented men/actors.

if I describe people generally using adjectives like their height, attractiveness, job etc he says I am overly preoccupied with these qualities and he has even said I am shallow before and that I was only with my ex for his salary. I actually was a single mum for years and built up my successful career through a lot of graft, and I've never expected to split expenses more than 50/50- in fact, I helped my ex build up his career to a double pay rise, while taking a cut of my own.

He thinks my interest in true crime is also incredibly vapid and also mentions it in arguments.

If we watch a show involving casual sex/dating, which he knows I did a lot of in my distant past, he will refer to how shallow and weird it is to sleep with someone you're not in love with. He takes a lot of pride and talks a lot about how he has only had 4 sexual partners in his mid 40s and always bangs on about his christian/country background and how this has given him strong (read: better) values/morals. He has gotten very annoyed even watching shows such as Girls, Looking, Fleabag etc before because he thinks they trivialise sex and relationships, and ends up having a rant about this. I am 10 years younger and I feel like his attitude is pretty old fashioned, I cant get riled up about stuff like that especially in a tv show.

He makes a lot of comments about 'city people' and how people from the countryside are generally more friendly, more reliable, more moral, etc. I have grown up in cities as he knows, and lived in major cities for 15 years as an adult. again, I never thought to judge people on city/country before!

I have had to hear the same sermon multiple times on how lying is so bad for relationships (no shit) - he seems to rank cheating/lying on a level with murder or something, because he was cheated on once. He is so black and white, I often end up pointing out that eg. my mum had an exit affair in a DV marriage, but even that to him is a stain on her character.

I have actually raised to him a few times now that if he cant accept things about me (from stupid stuff like the articles I read online, to bigger stuff like maybe being less black and white about stuff like casual sex, etc) and continues to be judgy/neg, maybe we aren't very compatible but he just maintains he thinks we are soulmates?!

It just feels like so often, I come away from conversations feeling defensive and/or invalidated, as well as insecure about myself- maybe I am shallow, etc... On a level I know it's not true, but it seems like even my stupid side interests are up for comment. I never thought that wikipedia-ing a director or watching a show about take that would lead to a negging comment about me, but it feels like he is in constant judgment! Its so annoying when I have so many interests and I am obviously no fool.

Any thoughts? He is otherwise lovely and does everything for me/us, he's kind, I just dont get this judginess. His family are kind of like this too, making out they are better than others, but he sees that in them... just not in himself.

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StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 31/01/2025 14:05

He sounds dreadful. Tell him to bore off to the countryside and take his morals with him for company. Prick.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 31/01/2025 14:05

So do you see yourself staying with him? Because he's going to carry on and probably get worse.

bombastix · 31/01/2025 14:06

Don't miss the wood for the trees, OP

Irridescantshimmmer · 31/01/2025 14:07

He doesn't sound like he has anything nice or good to say to you and this is his way of chipping away at all your good points and thats his issue not yours.

Ask yourself what are the positives about your r/ ship with him and do the same with the negatives.

The anser to your question is in there.

Irridescantshimmmer · 31/01/2025 14:07

*answer

Billybagpuss · 31/01/2025 14:07

Have you asked him why he wants to be with someone that he clearly considers so intellectually inferior to him.

and when considering the dumping him option (do it) consider when you’re in your 50s and all the old groups you followed are reforming and doing nostalgia tours, you can be carefree and have a whale of a time, he’ll be an even more miserable grump in his 60s.

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:10

I have no idea honestly, it has begun to feel like more of a deal breaker for me as time goes by. I feel on the verge of being judged constantly.

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Trickedbyadoughnut · 31/01/2025 14:12

He's literally telling you what he thinks of you ...

I had an ex who used to do well academically etc. Got a prize in his year etc. He was smart. I always dossed around a bit to do really well in uni and I like bodice-rippers and Hallmark films in my downtime. But, there was a silly IQ test on TV that we were doing together and I got a higher score than him. He went NUTS, ranting and raving about how stupid it was, stormed out.

It really opened my eyes to the fact that he really only wanted to be with me if I was lower or lessor than him in some way.

fruitbrewhaha · 31/01/2025 14:14

I think read back what you put here OP.

He sounds like a cunt. It’s all in the posts you’ve written. He’s just horrid to you. You deserve so much more. You’re a super intelligent women who should be with someone who stimulates you intellectually and doesn’t care if you listen to Take That. Maybe they like a bit of pop music themselves and you go to see live music together.

It’s been 18 months and he’s showing you who he really is. And it’s not nice. Ditch him.

LTB

Daisyvodka · 31/01/2025 14:15

Honestly, for me this boils down to the fact that he just isn't being very nice or kind towards you or your interests, and that feels like a baseline expectation for ANY relationship in your life. He might say he loves you, but this isn't how you speak to someone you care about, is it?

whatapalarva · 31/01/2025 14:15

My ex was lovely with the kids, a generally good husband, a stay at home Dad for 11 years, cooked for me and cleaned the house etc. on paper a model husband.. so what did I have to complain about? ... but...but... when it came down to it, I didn't actually like him very much, certainly not my soul mate. Didn't have a charitable bone in his body to help others, was very judgemental, would often 'joke' about things that quite clearly weren't jokes to me, more like put-downs, scathing about people who had done nothing against him. Told me that I was lucky to have him, very insecure and deep down actually not a very nice person. Over time this became very unattractive and as we got older and kids grew up I thought, do I actually want to spend the rest of my life with this person. Now, I am by no means perfect but I am kind and quite easy going until i'm pushed and feel I have MUG written on my head. So OP my point is, you can have a good day to day marriage but when you ask yourself if you like them very much, the answer has to be yes, and ask honestly if you want to spend the rest of your life with this person and accept their behaviours towards you and others?

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:15

I just dont get that because he goes for successful intelligent woman, his ex wife was a doctor who went to oxbridge too and I am a professional as well, it makes no sense.

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Christmassoxs · 31/01/2025 14:16

My husband is my soul mate. we are like the same person in our thinking, respect and treatment of each other.
Your dh OP is not your soul mate in any shape or form in the way he treats you and is so disrespectful. He sounds like a complete twat with a double portion of chips on his shoulder.

bombastix · 31/01/2025 14:16

Obviously he gets off on all these toxic little arguments and upsetting you OP. Have a think on that because none of it is good

PickledElectricity · 31/01/2025 14:16

Your boyfriend is insecure and wants to destroy you.

FrustratedandBemused · 31/01/2025 14:17

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:15

I just dont get that because he goes for successful intelligent woman, his ex wife was a doctor who went to oxbridge too and I am a professional as well, it makes no sense.

Maybe he actively seeks out people he can knock down?

Christmassoxs · 31/01/2025 14:17

Sorry, partner, at least you can fet rid of him fairly easily.

3luckystars · 31/01/2025 14:17

I think the honeymoon is over so. 😁

NEXT!!

bombastix · 31/01/2025 14:17

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:15

I just dont get that because he goes for successful intelligent woman, his ex wife was a doctor who went to oxbridge too and I am a professional as well, it makes no sense.

Well cant you tell now why she's an ex?

This man likes belittling very clever women. And making his arguments impossible to win.

I can guess why she left

PickledElectricity · 31/01/2025 14:17

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:15

I just dont get that because he goes for successful intelligent woman, his ex wife was a doctor who went to oxbridge too and I am a professional as well, it makes no sense.

Why did she leave him - was she also tired of being used as a verbal and emotional punching bag?

DustyLee123 · 31/01/2025 14:17

Bin him off and save yourself the aggro.

whatapalarva · 31/01/2025 14:17

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:15

I just dont get that because he goes for successful intelligent woman, his ex wife was a doctor who went to oxbridge too and I am a professional as well, it makes no sense.

Oh and sorry, me again. My mother always used to say that men are initially attracted to women for the thing that they end up resenting. Mine was being sociable with friends... in time that was the thing that irritated him the most.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/01/2025 14:18

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 13:55

negging is making digs at your partner that usually can be passed off as 'a joke', generally making a negative out of something to blindside them.

Negging is abuse, pure and simple. If he loved you, if he was your soulmate, he would not be abusing you, @springhazsprung.

LTB.

Ellie56 · 31/01/2025 14:19

He is not lovely and he most definitely is not your soulmate. He is a judgemental self opinionated sneering twat.

Just dump him now. You can do so much better. You deserve better too.

springhazsprung · 31/01/2025 14:20

He left her!! for another younger woman.. but this doesnt count as cheating to him because he didn't cross any physical lines with the woman before he left.... AFAIK his ex wife was quite distraught and had to have a lot of therapy which now makes sense to me....

I once by accident found a list he had made of the qualities he wanted in a partner and it included 'beautiful', 'intelligent', 'ambitious'... he is an underemployed man in his mid 40s who most people mistake for older. I feel bad for saying that and I would never say it to him but he seems to expect so much of others but not himself.

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