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Adult DD cut me off. Devastated

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Newbeginingssameoldshite · 31/01/2025 12:21

Eldest DD 25 moved back home after 4 years at uni last spring and a quick back story...

During her time away at uni I was diagnosed with a critical illness that I miraculously recovered from but has left me with life long health limitations. However during my illness I remained in employment (although off sick and living off my criticall illness cover which was substantially less than my income) and as active as I possibly could be.

In her first year she had to leave the first shared accomidation due to a breakdown in the relationship with her flat mates. She was tied into a year contract on the property which she had to pay (or i did as her guarantor)so I had to find new sioe occupancy accommodation and pay the rent for the year for her.

Second year she continued to live alone in the small bedsit from previous year which her loan covered.

Her third year she went into a house share with a small group of friends and all seemed to be going well until I became very very unwell and hospitalised and she made the decision to come home to help me rehab and to help with my youngest DD (15 year age gap) for around 3 months. During this time she commuted to uni.

However it came to light she missed her final placement during this time and she couldn't graduate without completing it.

During that autumn/winter I finished treatment and was given the all clear.

So this took her into year 4 of a 3 year course, I'd just returned to work with a huge amount of debt hanging over me from being off so long.
She insisted she stayed in the uni city (it is commutable and I had purchased a car for her to get around with) and it looked like Shenwould get funding again for this extended year. However after she had signed for a house share again the student loan was pulled and she was advised it was agreed in error. Again I'm the guarantor, she's unable to work as the placement hours are FT so I'm left to pick up the bill and I'm paying rent on 2 houses sending her an allawance each month plus trying to clear my debts. Against all odds she qualified and secured a well paid job in chosen profession.

She asked to move back home whilst she finds her feet. Bare in mind she is now working with a salary close to what mine is, which of course I agreed and welcomed her with open arms.

She really struggled being back home, doesn't have many friends and work collegues seem to be excluding her so spending a lot if time in her room.

I only asked for 50 a week board (token contribution) so she could save to get her own place.

I'm still in massive debt and I'm now working 2 jobs to repay them. ( over 50%:of the debts ae from me supporting her through uni)

Relationship feels strained. Everything I say is wrong, she's doing nothing around the house to help. (Pots left all the time, kitchen filthy after she's cooked separate meals as my food no longer good enough for her) every time I bring it up it turns into an argument so I stop mentioning it and feel like I'm treading on egg shells all the time.

She finally found a place of her own! (Its not quite ready yet to move into) And I've helped her with getting furniture etc. Even moved furniture into upstairs flat on my own with chronic illness and disabled.

We got into a disagreement in my car whilst I was helping her with stuff for the flat and she flipped out on me. My mum was Present and witnessed it all.

DD Punched me 3 times in the face and kicked my car. I should have called the police but didn't as it would ruin her career (dbs checks)

I asked her to leave my house and find somewhere else until flat is ready and pay back some money I had borrowed her ( a small amount, not anything from uni support).

Not heard anything for days until I get a cold text saying she is a better person without me and won't contact me again.

I'm heartbroken. I've litterally given my all for her. Gone without food to ensure she has what she needs. I've been there emotionally for every step of her life. And now she attacks me and cuts me off.

I honestly don't understand what I've done to deserve any of this.

OP posts:
lemmein · 01/02/2025 20:36

I'm so sorry you're going through this OP - I had similar with my DD though she was a lot younger and was never violent towards me. I know how much headspace trouble with your children takes, it's all consuming and as you've said, you're not in the best of health, I think you need to let her go, for now at least.

My DD's behaviour radically changed when I just stopped caring....obviously I NEVER actually stopped caring, but I pretended to be ambivalent towards her and her dramas. Your DD will know this will be hurting you, she's deliberately picking her words to upset you - ignore it, she's looking for a reaction to justify her actions, try to not give her it.

I'd send the reply a pp gave (can't remember the username, but the reply was in bold) - it's holding her accountable for her actions but also leaving the door open with boundaries in place.

Punching someone, let alone your mother, in the face 3 times is REALLY horrific - no excuse for it. I'd be worried that she's going to end up in prison tbh if she's working with vulnerable people, though I can understand why you don't want to report her, I wouldn't either. She needs to know she's crossed a line, seriously, and I'd do that by fighting every instinct you have to desperately try and repair the relationship. Let her sit in her feelings for a while, this isn't yours to fix. She needs to seek help herself.

She will come back, eventually - use this time in the interim to get yourself well Flowers

BrightLeader · 01/02/2025 20:45

I'm sorry to say but our children can be very selfish & it seems the more we do for them the worse they are.

You have been unwell & fought back you now need to think of yourself & dig deep.

It's absolutely classic that you talking about your problems upsets her. The same has happened to me. I have been called self absorbed & miserable.

I believe given space & time she will probably come back. She is a very angry person at the moment. She needs to do some growing up.

Good luck

Kayos24 · 01/02/2025 20:48

Apologies in advance for the long post!

In my experience, as an estranged mum, there's never just a black and a white side to this. What I have learned, is that a knee jerk reaction to a knee jerk action never solves anything, it just adds to the whole sorry, sad mix. It's clearly hard for the OP to contain her emotions - that's why she's posting on here, for support and to be told she's in the right - and I get that, but it won't solve the problem which clearly exists.

The OP's daughter has clearly reached breaking point, and I have to wonder whether it was a true punch or whether she lashed out to the one person she knew was dependable: her mum. Three punches to the face by a fit and healthy 25 year old would do some serious damage, not just wound feelings, no?

My eldest grandson is now 16, and I haven't seen him or painted with him or read to him or talked with him or hugged him since he was 6 years old. His childhood is over, and I missed it. I haven't seen his mother grow into the woman she is today and that hurts, I suspect more than most people could ever imagine in ten lifetimes. Oh, I could give you lists upon lists about the good things that I did as a parent, but I've learned that it's the things you don't do - and which mostly you're unaware of - or the emotional responses that young parents sometimes make, which lead to estrangement. I always thought this almighty wrong would inevitably solve itself, because I've always loved my children and done my best, but it hasn't, and the passing of time has just sealed the door to potential reconciliation. I know it won't happen now and I've learned to live with that, but I feel like theres a big part of me that's missing and I know I can never be whole again, or be the person I wanted to be.

So, I'd say to the OP, whatever is going on here and however much you - and other posters on here - believe yourself to be blameless, you can only see and feel the blind pain of rejection right now and, at the end of the day, the details ultimately won't make a bit of difference. Like you, I've had major health issues since our estrangement, but that didn't bring about the emotional reunion we see in movies. Real life doesn't follow the patterns we expect and hope for, but ultimately we have have to concede we must have contributed something major to estrangement with our children and so must carry some responsibility.

Over the years, I've read everything under the sun about estrangement and have personally identified with very much of it, but still it changes nothing. I've bookmarked passages which I think maybe go some way towards explaining our position and I've tried and tried to work out how someone you love so deeply can possibly not want you in their life, or their children's lives. I never did anything heinous, I've told myself for years. But, I've learned that there are helicopter parents' (in a nutshell, those who hover and guide their children to find things out for themselves, and grow emotionally and intellectually with appropriate levels of support) and there are 'bulldozer parents' (who, with the best will in the world, try to solve their children's problems and give them short-cuts to happiness). I was, and still am, a bulldozer parent, and it sounds as if the OP maybe is, too. I now realise that, giving too much of yourself doesn't automatically result in appreciation and love from your children, and it can leave you feeling used, and spent. That's down to us, it's not our kid's fault or responsibility. If the OP has always showered her daughter with money and solutions, that's hardly the young person's failing, but what she's been conditioned to expect.

To the OP: I suspect your daughter's cruel text was to provoke response in you - did it work? In my experience, people who stop caring, stop communicating, so there's a good chance your daughter doesn't truly want you out of her life, and there's hope yet. There's no point in your trying to tell her how you don't deserve the way she's treating you or attempting to drum home your point of view, since she'll just see you as self-righteous. As parents, and to have any chance of healing, we must learn to listen and not let the pain or sense of injustice dictate how we respond. Much easier to say than to do, for some of us!

I would urge the OP to step back and think about how she and her daughter have got to this point. It's really not important who did what, or who's right or who's wrong on different issues, because it's never that simple. The fact is they're in danger of losing each other and that['s the very worst pain to ever have to learn to live with, so I['d suggest you should try very hard to drop the notion that you'[re amazing and she's awful, or it just won't work. Take baby steps from now on and try to understand each other better by really listening and taking things slowly, if your daughter will agree to try that. I believe that, it's imperative to try really hard to drop the defensive attitude, to stand any chance of moving forwards.

I have failed in this, and I know it. It's impacted on my self-identity and my self-esteem, and it's something I can't fix. Don't be like me, do better, and do it sooner. Sons and daughters are precious, and I think we owe it to them to try harder. For the rest of my life, I'll wish I'd done things differently. Love isn't enough.

WorkItUpYourBangle · 01/02/2025 20:56

This sounds so similar to my own situation. Right down to the disabilities. I asked my ungrateful daughter to do even less than yours and I received similar treatment. Kids these days are SO entitled and then they get told on tiktok that it's always the parents fault. I've done absolutely nothing on mine either. I sacrificed so much for her like you, but she took off and hasn't bothered her arse to even Skype her siblings since. They're furious with the audacity of her. Sometimes we just have to let them go and hope they come back when they've wised up to themselves.

WorkItUpYourBangle · 01/02/2025 20:57

JoyousPinkPeer · 31/01/2025 17:56

Millions of children don't have "their needs met". 99.99% of them don't resort to violence.
Taking a phone off a child is a deserved outcome if they don't behave.
To be frank, this is bullshit and more or less blames Op.

I completely agree with you. MOST of the time the parents are to blame, I get that. Sometimes though, kids abuse their parents. It certainly sounds like that's the case here. OP has done more than enough for this ungrateful girl.

MellowCritic · 01/02/2025 21:15

JoBrandsCleaner · 31/01/2025 18:35

If I had a daughter like her who decided to cut me off I think I’d cope 😬
You’ve done more than enough for her that’s maybe some of the reason that she’s an entitled spoilt brat, although the way she is seems beyond that.

There's something wrong with you then!

AkersGreen · 01/02/2025 21:17

This was so sad to read OP. To punch your own mother in the face..I’d never want her near me. Please prioritise yourself and your life.

Crackednuts · 01/02/2025 21:20

YoungGunsHavingSomeFunCrazyLadiesKeepEmOnTheRun · 31/01/2025 12:35

Usually when there's a child who's cut off a parent I'm on the child's side, however your situation is horrific.

Before you decide what to do, you should decide what you want, do you want space? Do you want her in your life as things are? Do you want her away forever?

In your shoes I would leave her, maybe give it 6 months to a year, get yourself mentally and physically well, and then decide what's best for you, whether that's reaching out to her or leaving her be.

You have spent so long prioritising her and bending to her every whim and putting yourself last that it's going to be a massive adjustment to put yourself first. It's like being in an abusive relationship, you need time after a split to just find who you are again. With time will come some clarity.

Whatever you decide, I wish you all the best 💐

She did punch her in the face 3 times. Your advice is to leave her for 6 months and then decide. The poor op was assaulted. I didn't get on with my mother but I would never punch her in the face.

Crackednuts · 01/02/2025 21:22

Richiewoo · 31/01/2025 13:19

There more to this story. Nobody turns violent over night.

I don't get it have you punched your mum in the face?

laraitopbanana · 01/02/2025 21:22

Nanny0gg · 31/01/2025 13:10

It is concerning that she doesn't seem to get on well with others (whom she presumably doesn't hit!)

And did she really come home to look after you or was it a social thing again?

I'm not sure that you shouldn't be warning her that you are thinking of reporting her to the police. a) might make her think and b) to remind her that her job is in jeopardy if she doesn't control herself

That.

I think you should tell her that you are still unsure about what you should do IF she contacts you again.

I also think there is concern she doesn’t get on with others IF it was not the sole time.

The stress of working if her social skills aren’t there will defo put her in a hard spot and should be followed especially.

Good luck 🌺

IsobelElsie123 · 01/02/2025 21:25

The post from YoungGuns…. Is thought out and good advice. Don’t follow all these ‘cut her off’ ‘report her to the police’ as you can’t go back. She is probably worrying about her future too. Good luck with this - I wish you well.

Crackednuts · 01/02/2025 21:26

"She doesn't handle.any form.of.critisim or confrontation rationally."

She will end up in jail if she can't control herself.

Crackednuts · 01/02/2025 21:29

IsobelElsie123 · 01/02/2025 21:25

The post from YoungGuns…. Is thought out and good advice. Don’t follow all these ‘cut her off’ ‘report her to the police’ as you can’t go back. She is probably worrying about her future too. Good luck with this - I wish you well.

The problem is she can't control herself this isn't a normal situation. She could end up in prison if she doesn't learn. She needs therapy. The op has a child to think about as well. The op has to put conditions if she does return. The condition is she gets help and sorts out her head.

WeCanOnlyDoOurBest · 01/02/2025 21:33

Arran2024 · 01/02/2025 19:57

Hi. I haven't read all the posts but I did notice you mentioned she might have autism. I wanted to suggest you look into PDA specifically ( Pathological Demand Avoidance Syndrome). My daughter has it. The main symptoms is that they can't cope with demands and have a panic attack when overwhelmed, so the idea is to not make any direct demands but to couch things in a less direct way, or you get a complete flip out.

I have to be very careful round my daughter not to trigger her. She was diagnosed aged 7 and she is 25 now and has moved out but it was so stressful when she lived here.

Hugs xxx

If this is the case then OP’s DD should not be choosing the profession that she has. How can she cope effectively in her job?

AkersGreen · 01/02/2025 21:34

I believe I’d be more devastated at the fact my DD had punched me in the face and relieved she’d cut me off! Being assaulted, I mean you could have pressed charges but I’d understand that you wouldn’t do that.

Tiredofallthis101 · 01/02/2025 21:37

If you have the ability to contact her still, I would message her and tell her that you love her and you will always love her and support her no matter what. But she needs help - what she did was unacceptable and were she to be violent like that in future could result in her ending up in prison. You don't want that for her, having worked so hard to support her from the day she was born to now. You know she will probably need some time to cool down but when she's ready to come back, you'll be there, and you'd like to support her to get some help so she can manage her anger better. You don't want it to hold her back in life and prevent her having healthy, happy friendships and relationships in future. But it's her decision.

Crackednuts · 01/02/2025 21:42

Newbeginingssameoldshite · 31/01/2025 18:35

I want address a few points raised.

Regardless of what has occurred she is my child and I love her dearly and I absolutely will not be reporting her. This would end her just as she is starting out.

I am not painting nyself as whiter than white. I was a young single mother working full time and of course I made mistakes along the way.

But I have always tried to put my children first above my own needs and have provided all their wants as well.as needs.

We usually have a good relationship. I'm her go to in times of need emotionally etc for advice and guidance.

I did not ask her to return to care for me. She made that choice herself and had already fallen behind. Most likely due to the stress of my illness, she has admitted to me that she really thought I would die. (At times it did look that way)

It is possible she has Asd/ADSD which she recognises herself and has somewhat self diagnosed. Example if in the car with me and seat belt alam on for more that 30 seconds she will melt down. Also states overestimation in other circumstances.

Her father has MH issues and isn't in mainstream society and has been absent for a long time, but was an active parent before his MH breakdown so she struggles with abandonment complex. She has had counciing in the past.

She does have a tendancy to over react and her friendships/relationships have suffered in the past because of this.

I used the term ranting, I was not shouting, I was having a passionate conversation with my mother about a personal situation I was apeaved with that was not directed at her but she had made comment about when she lost her temper.

She will not speak to.me or my mother at all. My mother spoke to her when the incident happened as she tried to rewrite the narrative and my mum corrected her version of events.

I will not be making any further updates, I feel.bad enough as it is, like I've failed her as well as myself and I'm guilt ridden for asking her to leave. Had I'd have allowed her to return we probably wouldn't be where we are now, but I was hurt, angry and upset and needed space in a place where I didn't feel i was on eggshells all the time... that decision has clearly cost me my relationship with her.

You gave her boundaries you can't go back and be a doormat again. She will either lose her shit with the wrong person and get herself beaten up or someone will report her to the police and then what will she lose it with the police?
There is no excuse for violence if you go back on what you've done you did ont be helping her.

RudbekiasAreSun · 01/02/2025 21:46

I have read your update. Please, keep giving her grace from distance, not even a word of reporting to the police an ND child who suffers so much and cannot find her place in life. Let's pray for her and she will be ok somehow , one day

llizzie · 01/02/2025 22:14

Newbeginingssameoldshite · 31/01/2025 12:21

Eldest DD 25 moved back home after 4 years at uni last spring and a quick back story...

During her time away at uni I was diagnosed with a critical illness that I miraculously recovered from but has left me with life long health limitations. However during my illness I remained in employment (although off sick and living off my criticall illness cover which was substantially less than my income) and as active as I possibly could be.

In her first year she had to leave the first shared accomidation due to a breakdown in the relationship with her flat mates. She was tied into a year contract on the property which she had to pay (or i did as her guarantor)so I had to find new sioe occupancy accommodation and pay the rent for the year for her.

Second year she continued to live alone in the small bedsit from previous year which her loan covered.

Her third year she went into a house share with a small group of friends and all seemed to be going well until I became very very unwell and hospitalised and she made the decision to come home to help me rehab and to help with my youngest DD (15 year age gap) for around 3 months. During this time she commuted to uni.

However it came to light she missed her final placement during this time and she couldn't graduate without completing it.

During that autumn/winter I finished treatment and was given the all clear.

So this took her into year 4 of a 3 year course, I'd just returned to work with a huge amount of debt hanging over me from being off so long.
She insisted she stayed in the uni city (it is commutable and I had purchased a car for her to get around with) and it looked like Shenwould get funding again for this extended year. However after she had signed for a house share again the student loan was pulled and she was advised it was agreed in error. Again I'm the guarantor, she's unable to work as the placement hours are FT so I'm left to pick up the bill and I'm paying rent on 2 houses sending her an allawance each month plus trying to clear my debts. Against all odds she qualified and secured a well paid job in chosen profession.

She asked to move back home whilst she finds her feet. Bare in mind she is now working with a salary close to what mine is, which of course I agreed and welcomed her with open arms.

She really struggled being back home, doesn't have many friends and work collegues seem to be excluding her so spending a lot if time in her room.

I only asked for 50 a week board (token contribution) so she could save to get her own place.

I'm still in massive debt and I'm now working 2 jobs to repay them. ( over 50%:of the debts ae from me supporting her through uni)

Relationship feels strained. Everything I say is wrong, she's doing nothing around the house to help. (Pots left all the time, kitchen filthy after she's cooked separate meals as my food no longer good enough for her) every time I bring it up it turns into an argument so I stop mentioning it and feel like I'm treading on egg shells all the time.

She finally found a place of her own! (Its not quite ready yet to move into) And I've helped her with getting furniture etc. Even moved furniture into upstairs flat on my own with chronic illness and disabled.

We got into a disagreement in my car whilst I was helping her with stuff for the flat and she flipped out on me. My mum was Present and witnessed it all.

DD Punched me 3 times in the face and kicked my car. I should have called the police but didn't as it would ruin her career (dbs checks)

I asked her to leave my house and find somewhere else until flat is ready and pay back some money I had borrowed her ( a small amount, not anything from uni support).

Not heard anything for days until I get a cold text saying she is a better person without me and won't contact me again.

I'm heartbroken. I've litterally given my all for her. Gone without food to ensure she has what she needs. I've been there emotionally for every step of her life. And now she attacks me and cuts me off.

I honestly don't understand what I've done to deserve any of this.

It is very difficult to comment on this. In the first part it seemed as though you were repeating what happened to me. I too suddenly went down with a satanic type disease and I tried going back to work and had to give it up. I also took out loans for two children. They never paid the amounts agreed. They lived in my house after I remarried, and all I got was the housing benefit check. I forked out for insurance, energy bills, council tax all out of that. Appeals for help got nowhere. Then DS married and DIL lived there awhile then they went to live with her mother on the farm. They sold the farmhouse and converted the barn and invited me to see.

When we arrived, I sort of said to DS MIL ''I hope it is not too much for you''. Oh no, she said, the tax on the farm are so high I can do with their housing cheque!!! Not a thought for my husband and I left with council tax on two houses.

They were on my alarm system. The first time I called for help was the last. They sold up and went to Wales.

We love our children regardless, and I think you will have to suck it up, because I do not think you will win.

I just hope the poster who has a thread about should she move back with her mother to save money reads your. post from you, because it might stop her leaving her council flat.

Laurmolonlabe · 01/02/2025 22:15

I hate to say it, but if she was violent like this, with really no reason she shouldn't really be in a job which needs a DBS check. You should really tell her employer, if she pulls this kind of stunt at work her career would be completely finished-she would be unemployable.
She obviously has mental health issues and needs help, immediately.
It's heart breaking for you but clearly she sees all this from a very different perspective.
I really wouldn't take the line she is a better person without you seriously- as clearly that "better person" is still seriously flawed, violent and irrational.
I would advise you consider giving up work and claim sickness benefit, definitely drop to no more than 40 hours a week, if you continue to work.

chanlol · 01/02/2025 22:18

Take a step back- if your friend told you this exact sequence of events, what would your advice to them be?

Obviously it's not that simple, but that perspective might help. This situation will hurt so much because she is your child. This behaviour from your child, someone who you love very much, is completely at odds with the 'normal' relationship you expect.

She doesn't need to 'grow up.' This would not be acceptable from a teenager or even a pre-teen. She needs actual psychological help and intervention, but as an adult, that is something she needs to pursue herself.

I know this is blunt, but her behaviour towards is abusive. It doesn't matter that she is your daughter. She punched you- three times- in the face.

In my opinion, the steps you should take now should be therapeutic ones for yourself. She is an adult and you can't fix her. She has to pursue that- time will tell. Until then, find a good therapist, take some time and come to terms with what has happened. It sounds like you're going through a lot in general without this, and exploring those emotions will help.

She is always going to be your daughter. That won't change. These situations are made even more complex by the family relationship, because a parent should never be treated like this by their child. The same way it can be the other way around, and some children have horrific relationships with their parents. It goes against the status quo of life, and I think that makes contentious family relationships even worse.

I hope you have support around you, at least. Like another poster said, retreat and lick your wounds. Spend time with the people who treat you right, and look after yourself.

PawsedAgain · 01/02/2025 22:22

I've just been through something similar so I can totally relate. I've also struggled alone to pick up after my daughter, supporting her with various moves, childcare all the while being ill myself, during covid I was being taken by private ambulance on a weekly basis to hospital for treatment and monitoring. I was told recently that my daughter is abusing me financially and otherwise.
It's very painful. However, I've taken a step back. I am needing time to heal, and I'm doing my best to focus on that. You might want to do the same.

Hangingthread · 01/02/2025 22:26

OP you might not read this but if she is Neurodivergent you are and will always be her primary care giver - she needs you but you’re also the person who gets the full blast of all of her frustrations. It’s tough! Allow yourself some space to breath and process and give her the same. You are the pillar that holds her up - she will realise that in time and need you x

Bowies · 01/02/2025 22:29

OP sorry to hear this it’s shocking, but you need to take a deep breath and prioritise your self and your health.

It’s no bad thing she is NC for now, she is not safe to be around you, hopefully she has reflected abs removed herself for your benefit as well as hers while she gets herself sorted.

You have done your best to support her but she is an adult now and it’s time to start putting yourself first. Stop being a martyr, and you are not a punching bag either. It’s healthy to create boundaries.

If there is someone who can act as a neutral point of contact between you that could be good. She needs to seek professional help for her anger.

Lavenderblue11 · 01/02/2025 22:35

My heart breaks for you OP. I would be destroyed if my DD did this to me. You deserve better than to be treated like this.
She has shown zero respect for you, she will have even less respect for you if you forgive her straight away, and let her back into your life without her grovelling for forgiveness.
It sounds like you've raised aself-entitled brat, sorry OP.