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DH won’t stop touching me

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BakeSaleTomorrow · 20/01/2025 19:16

It’s constant! His main thing is smoothing my arms - from my wrist to the top of my arm. He does this all the time, when I’m cooking, holding a kettle of boiling water (!) washing up or working. It’s extremely irritating, he can’t walk past me without touching a part of me but it’s the arm smoothing that’s giving me the ick! I’ve told him to get off, especially when I’m busy or holding boiling stuff but he keeps doing it and sulks saying that he can’t touch his own wife etc.

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thepariscrimefiles · 21/01/2025 09:06

BrickBiscuit · 21/01/2025 08:58

OP, two or three PPs have asked how much you have sex but you have not answered. Maybe separate beds and his words 'frigid' and 'not allowed to touch' suggest it's never. Is he perhaps dealing (in the wrong way) with the loss of his sex life?

You sound as though OP is being unreasonable for not wanting to have sex with an abusive sex pest. I would imagine his behaviour of grabbing her roughly and painfully between the legs when she was recovering from childbirth might have the effect of lowering her desire to have sex with this awful man.

BakeSaleTomorrow · 21/01/2025 09:07

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He pesters for a while and I will to get him off my back for a while. That’s not good I know.

OP posts:
BrickBiscuit · 21/01/2025 09:08

thepariscrimefiles · 21/01/2025 09:06

You sound as though OP is being unreasonable for not wanting to have sex with an abusive sex pest. I would imagine his behaviour of grabbing her roughly and painfully between the legs when she was recovering from childbirth might have the effect of lowering her desire to have sex with this awful man.

My phrase "in the wrong way" would suggest otherwise.

OneDeftPombear · 21/01/2025 09:10

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thepariscrimefiles · 21/01/2025 09:15

BrickBiscuit · 21/01/2025 09:08

My phrase "in the wrong way" would suggest otherwise.

You are still making excuses for him. I would imagine that his dreadful behaviour came first so OP didn't want to have sex with him rather than OP just losing interest in sex which has led to his behaviour.

BrickBiscuit · 21/01/2025 09:16

thepariscrimefiles · 21/01/2025 09:15

You are still making excuses for him. I would imagine that his dreadful behaviour came first so OP didn't want to have sex with him rather than OP just losing interest in sex which has led to his behaviour.

Reasons are not excuses.

BakeSaleTomorrow · 21/01/2025 09:17

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He’s close to the children, only now has started to do things with our teen (out of the house) but never took them out on his own (when I was working) Would only do stuff when I was there too. Never took them to the park or anywhere on his own. This is probably off topic and for a whole other thread!

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WoolySnail · 21/01/2025 09:19

BMW6 · 21/01/2025 08:57

No-one is horrible ALL the time - Hitler loved his dog Blondie (until he tested poison on her).

Not being an absolute cunt all the time is not nearly good enough. Buying gifts and paying bills does not give permission to hurt you physically or emotionally.

He sees you as a possession not a person with your own rights. When he touches you like this he's marking his territory. Like a dog pisses on every lamppost it passes.

He's not doing it to show Affection - rather the opposite.

I think of it as the carrot and the stick. They give you just enough carrot to keep you tolerating the stick.

BakeSaleTomorrow · 21/01/2025 09:20

thepariscrimefiles · 21/01/2025 09:15

You are still making excuses for him. I would imagine that his dreadful behaviour came first so OP didn't want to have sex with him rather than OP just losing interest in sex which has led to his behaviour.

If I’m honest our marriage is dead, I flinch now when he touches me and I struggle to forgive how awful he behaved towards me when our children were babies (name calling, threats, threats to end his life if I disagreed with him or if I told him to leave) Something is broken and can’t be fixed, if I’m honest I don’t trust him and I’m not sure what he’s really capable of.

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BakeSaleTomorrow · 21/01/2025 09:21

We have one teen and one upper primary school aged child.

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WoolySnail · 21/01/2025 09:23

Please get out op. Your parents won't care that they paid for your wedding and do you seriously think they'd prefer you stay with a man that treats you this way? You and your dc deserve better. Yes, he'll have a tantrum and threaten allsorts but grey rock him and move on, his issues are not yours to tolerate or fix xx

Flopsy145 · 21/01/2025 09:34

SoInLuv · 21/01/2025 08:17

It's actually not weird. He just means it in a romantic way I guess, I like when my man says "you're mine" (although there isn't any unexpected touching apart from hugs and bum grabbing/kisses which I don't mind and enjoy).

I'm sure the "This arm is mine" is also meant in a romantic way, not controlling, it's just light- hearted.

Based on what else OP has said it's definitely controlling not romantic

unmemorableusername · 21/01/2025 09:39

Having read all op's posts it is clear this is domestic abuse.

There's almost no sex.
(Not that that's an excuse for sexual assault)

The marriage is dead.

Op- can you take the DCs & go to a refuge?

Given you have a witness you could report these assaults to the police.

Get all your documents in order & in a safe place.

Have a fund & make the practical plans to escape.

The freedom program would help

littleluncheon · 21/01/2025 09:39

It's really not ok for your children to witness this or grow up in this kind of sexually abusive environment.

rainbowstardrops · 21/01/2025 09:40

littleluncheon · 21/01/2025 09:39

It's really not ok for your children to witness this or grow up in this kind of sexually abusive environment.

Absolutely this.
Your husband sounds worse with every update. Please get yourself and your children away from him.

MissDoubleU · 21/01/2025 09:41

BakeSaleTomorrow · 20/01/2025 19:23

Yeah. He says “Stop! She doesn’t like it.” But he still carries on.

This would be extremely worrying to me OP, as young boys especially need to learn consent and “no means no”m

Your husband is deliberately ignoring your autonomy and refusing your non consent. He believes he owns you and cannot be told no. This is absolutely serious and I would be telling my husband at this stage to leave until he is willing to

A) accept how serious this is

B) Learn and demonstrate his understanding that your body is YOURS and not his

C) apologise profusely for his repeatedly ignoring your cries of stop and no, as well as for setting the very wrong and dangerous example to your son that a wife’s body belongs to her husband

Shetlands · 21/01/2025 10:05

I strongly advise you not to tell your children or husband that you've decided to leave. You can't risk him finding out as he sounds dangerously possessive. Women's Aid will have good advice for you but you must give them the full picture of his behaviour. Wishing you well.

Stressedoutmum6274 · 21/01/2025 12:09

ClairDeLaLune · 21/01/2025 06:30

But even stroking her arm if she doesn’t want him to is not ok. Consent doesn’t just apply to the full sex act. I feel sorry for your daughters if you have any @Stressedoutmum6274 what on earth are you teaching them?

I actually didnt process the first post correctly before chipping in. I wasnt aware this was about SA. Its easy to follow the wrong track of thought and I clearly had. I have apologised. I do not support sexual abuse in any way.
Really no need to bring up how i parent my daughters is there.

Seeuontheboard · 21/01/2025 12:58

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BitOutOfPractice · 21/01/2025 13:54

From what you’ve said about your DS, I suspect he would be happier without his dad living with him full time. He sounds like he has his head screwed on to be honest.

Mimilamore · 21/01/2025 17:33

Oh I'm not alone... my husband does this and I hate it. He has been told but takes that as total rejection. I find it a bit creepy and childlike but then he did lose his mum as a child...

SoInLuv · 21/01/2025 18:03

TwistedWonder · 21/01/2025 08:26

So grabbing her breasts and vagina roughly and telling her she’s frigid when she tells him to stop is light hearted and romantic is it? No its sexual assault and abuse.

Those poor ickle men just cant help their dirty gropey hands and women should just let themselves be possessions to be pawed - ffs

Fucking hell the abuse apologists are out in force on this thread.

Edited

Well perhaps I hadn't read it all- grabbing vagina etc in the manner yu described is not romantic, obviously...duh

SoInLuv · 21/01/2025 18:05

thepariscrimefiles · 21/01/2025 08:45

WTAF! If you've read all OP's posts and still posted this dangerous drivel, you're deliberately making excuses for a sex offender.

If you haven't read all her posts, go back and do so and you will realise that romance is the last thing on OP's DH's mind.

Edited

OKAY.

SoInLuv · 21/01/2025 18:07

Flopsy145 · 21/01/2025 09:34

Based on what else OP has said it's definitely controlling not romantic

Fair enough.

CountessWindyBottom · 21/01/2025 18:31

Please be so very very careful @BakeSaleTomorrow. Prior to leaving an abusive relationship for good is statistically the most dangerous time for the victim so you need to be stealth, efficient and not breathe a word to a soul. Continue as normal. Continue to flinch when he touches you. Don’t speak to the children or anyone about it and then plan on making as swift an exit as possible. Please contact WA and they will offer you expert support.

Please keep us posted on how you are. I’m so glad that you realise that this is not normal and that you deserve so much better xx

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