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Is there any other explanation?

392 replies

Thisagain4 · 12/12/2024 03:16

Been with DP 4yrs long distance, live 3.5hrs drive apart, both with 1 child each. We see other once a week for 24hrs. Things have worked this way because we both have busy lives and we want to put our children first.
At 4yrs I haven't met any of his friends or family (he says they are racist)
Haven't met his DC (he says they won't take it well)
We haven't been away together
When I visited his city he was uncomfortable about pda
He rarely answers his phone in the evenings (says it's on charge on silent and he's usually way thing football with his dad)
He never spends more than 24hrs here.
We've never spent Xmas together because we want to spend it with our children.
He is very protective of his phone
He is never here for more than 24hrs
However I can feel that he loves me, he tells me daily and communicates a lot. We're making plans for when DC go to uni.
A few days ago he changed plans from going to my sisters for an early Xmas from overnight to a few hours. This was the straw that broke the camel's back because he didn't see me for my birthday last week and I exploded about how I'm fed up with this joke of a relationship and asked him if he has a double Info up where he is. His response was that nothing is going on, I'm just having my monthly meltdown and he has refused to engage since.
AIBU? Is that he's just a very private person or have I been a naive mug for 4 years?

OP posts:
Bittenonce · 16/12/2024 07:07

Thisagain4 · 16/12/2024 06:33

@friendlycat what field do you work in?

What makes you think she’s a farmer??

Safirexx · 16/12/2024 08:21

Bittenonce · 16/12/2024 07:07

What makes you think she’s a farmer??

@Bittenonce took me a minute to get that one 😬

AnonAnonmystery · 16/12/2024 12:32

At least you don’t have the burden of telling his partner. Something must have blown up dramatically after he dropped you to the station. Or he just confessed as he wanted to get his story to her before you got to her. I feel sorry you his partner and yourself being duped in this way.

Catoo · 16/12/2024 13:02

Maybe his parents have told him he needs to tell his partner. I expect that they are worried that OP will find out where he actually does live and will turn up on his doorstep at some point.

He will have given a BS version - a mistaken drunken fling, with someone who turned out to be a fatal attraction bunny boiler, now stalking his family and turning up on doorsteps when he tried to call it off.

His partner will then have insisting on seeing his phone to get the real story, getting OPs number in the process. Of course, he will have deleted most messages incriminating him.

Bloody appalling man.

Thisagain4 · 16/12/2024 17:15

Had to leave work early today after I realised I wasn't making sense and my mind kept flitting to him 🤦🏻‍♀️ Told DD I have a migraine. But time to put my game face on.
Don't know why I Keep clinging to the fact that maybe they didn't have a relationship as he says, instead of hating him.
First therapy session booked for Wednesday.

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Lighterordarker · 16/12/2024 17:20

This is a really hard situation and you will go through all kinds of emotions, all of them are valid. I hope your new therapist will be helpful, it’s great you have managed to get it sorted so quickly.

Ivegotaboneinmyleg · 17/12/2024 13:33

I am so sorry. Have a 'migraine' and gather your thoughts. It's difficult and heartbreaking, but he never was - he was always a lie. Huge hugs! 💐

WakingUpToReality · 17/12/2024 15:03

It will take the time it takes, and you'll work through it step by step. Well done on getting started though. You can do this.

Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 21:05

Thank you. 🤗 It helps with DD around because I have to look upbeat and jolly and keep the house tidy and feed her, so don't spend the whole day crying in bed!

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Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 21:05

My chest does physically ache though?!

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AnonAnonmystery · 17/12/2024 21:30

Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 21:05

My chest does physically ache though?!

And I bet you can’t find a medical explaination 💔

jenny38 · 17/12/2024 21:47

This sounds incredibly hard, my heart goes out to you. Please remember even the bad times pass eventually

Lighterordarker · 17/12/2024 21:59

i just saw this - I don’t know if it might be helpful.

Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 22:23

@AnonAnonmystery no! I did think for a second, do I have pericarditis?!
@Lighterordarker thank you that was so spot on what I needed to hear 🙏

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Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 22:24

@jenny38, @WakingUpToReality and @Ivegotaboneinmyleg thank you for the support ❤️

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InSpainTheRain · 17/12/2024 22:26

I dont think anyone can say for sure what's going on, but my money would be on him being married. Sorry OP.

But... 4 years! What do you want from life? You only get one life and honestly if you wait for him it'll be excuse after excuse. I do not believe he will ever move in or be with you in a proper relationship.

Bumcake · 17/12/2024 22:51

InSpainTheRain · 17/12/2024 22:26

I dont think anyone can say for sure what's going on, but my money would be on him being married. Sorry OP.

But... 4 years! What do you want from life? You only get one life and honestly if you wait for him it'll be excuse after excuse. I do not believe he will ever move in or be with you in a proper relationship.

You’re wrong, we can all say what’s going on because we’ve read the thread.

Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 22:51

When he fetched me from his parents and I said to him, "so you're not separated", he tried to explain to me how they are essentially, but his partner doesn't know 🤦🏻‍♀️

OP posts:
Ebbyfroom · 18/12/2024 06:50

Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 22:51

When he fetched me from his parents and I said to him, "so you're not separated", he tried to explain to me how they are essentially, but his partner doesn't know 🤦🏻‍♀️

Of course….and that’s why he had to make a fake name and address up!

What a morally bankrupt man who just can’t stop lying

TwistedWonder · 18/12/2024 08:44

Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 22:51

When he fetched me from his parents and I said to him, "so you're not separated", he tried to explain to me how they are essentially, but his partner doesn't know 🤦🏻‍♀️

These are the lies you need to remember when you have down times and miss him.. Even when you caught him bang to rights, he still tried gaslighting you.

He’s a compulsive liar

pomers · 18/12/2024 11:55

Thisagain4 · 17/12/2024 22:51

When he fetched me from his parents and I said to him, "so you're not separated", he tried to explain to me how they are essentially, but his partner doesn't know 🤦🏻‍♀️

This is an outrageous lie, but I think you know that. If they are separated, she knows. They are not separated. The gaslighting is string here. You don’t really love this man, you love who you believed him to be.

fedup078 · 22/12/2024 18:24

How's it going @Thisagain4 ?

Thisagain4 · 22/12/2024 18:40

Not good. Been reflecting and I understand how it happened. He was looking for connection that he didn’t have. Didn't leave because the mother of his child would've turned his daughter against him if he did. He found me, unexpectedly fell in love, then couldn’t tell me for fear of losing me. He's now in a situation where the mother of his child says if he contacts me again, he'll lose his daughter.

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AnonAnonmystery · 22/12/2024 18:44

@Thisagain4 i really fear he is further duping you. Seems you haven’t given up on being in contact. The threat he’s partner is making about his daughter isn’t how it will play out unless she flees the country with her. No court in the UK would deny him his daughter. Please wake up!

whathaveiforgotten · 22/12/2024 18:47

AnonAnonmystery · 22/12/2024 18:44

@Thisagain4 i really fear he is further duping you. Seems you haven’t given up on being in contact. The threat he’s partner is making about his daughter isn’t how it will play out unless she flees the country with her. No court in the UK would deny him his daughter. Please wake up!

This.

OP you're still being manipulated 😞

He's cast himself as the victim in this whole piece and his wife as the villain.

Unbelievably manipulative.

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