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Child hates me having a girlfriend

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HopperDash · 18/11/2024 03:44

Hi. I'm a man reaching out for advice from a female perspective so please be gentle.

I am divorced and currently have sole custody of my teen daughter. I am 50 and have been seeing a lovely woman who is 38 for sometime. We get on great, however and understandably she is at an age where she would like to have children sooner than later. I am happy with this, I am a young 50 and very healthy for my age and a great Dad.

My daughter is already finding it hard for me to have a girlfriend and has stated that she doesn't want to meet her, let alone her living with me and the idea of me having another child and sibling would flip her out greatly. She's been crying a lot just me seeing someone and I feel awful.

I understand all of this as I'm all she has, her relationship with her Mum isn't good and they rarely see each other. I'm torn, as I definitely don't want to damage her or our relationship either, but also don't want to lose my girlfriend. In five years my daughter will be an adult and I don't want to be on my own so have had to be slightly selfish by seeing someone to begin with. It'll only get harder over time otherwise.

My child means everything to me and is not being capricious, merely I'm all she has and I think she can't bear me giving my love to someone else or losing me.

Any advice would be appreciated.

OP posts:
SabreIsMyFave · 18/11/2024 23:59

Duckingella · 18/11/2024 22:10

It really isn't.

The 15 year is being a brat;she's basically saying her dad isn't allowed to move on with his life because she doesn't like the idea;any woman this man has a relationship with regardless of age and status she'll have an issue with.It also isn't fair to suggest the OP waits a few years until she's older because the chances are she'd have an issue with her fathers partner then too because she's been alllowed to control her father's life for the past few years.

I agree with other posters. What an utterly vile post!

CheekyHobson · 19/11/2024 01:03

The fact is many of them today at this stage of life are either left to run wild with little or no boundaries or so closeted in a world where they are so protected from life's hardships they find it difficult to deal with reality.

This describes exactly zero of the young teens I know

Sceptical123 · 19/11/2024 06:27

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 10:08

Thank you, I have told her this constantly. I give all my love and free time to her and it's a pleasure never a chore.

You can’t give all your love and free time if you’ve been in a relationship with a woman you care about for 6 months 🤔 I thought you said you were always open and transparent with her.

Sceptical123 · 19/11/2024 06:28

Calliopespa · 18/11/2024 10:08

What makes you say that is “ very rare for a man.” 😉 According to some posters here that’s a laughable suggestion!

He’s got an incredibly high opinion of himself, that’s for sure 😂

Sceptical123 · 19/11/2024 06:52

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 12:03

I think a near year on my own and four years of a partner stating clearly they don't want me is enough time. It's not a prison sentence, according to you and others I should just stay unhappy and go on silver dating in 10 years.

You said your wife had left this year - so you’ve not been alone a year. When did she leave? January? May? You’ve been dating this woman for 6 months, so if your wife left early jan that’s only 4 months between then and meeting your current gf. Presumably she wasn’t the very first person you met on OLD - if that’s where you met, unless you were extremely lucky, so you would have been actively dating and seeking someone pretty soon after the split - which your daughter would probably have been aware of. Not massively great for her sense of security and self esteem, bless her when she’s had to adjust to her mother walking out and a huge change to her home life.

DreamyCyanFinch · 19/11/2024 07:13

Just wanted to say without being too judgemental, don't you think you're jumping into this a bit quickly with the new woman.
You've only known her 6 months, it's not really long enough to move in with her and get her pregnant.
This would be the advise on here if you were a woman asking about a new man you had meet.

I really think without the added, upset it would cause your daughter, you need to go slower with the new girlfriend.It doesn't matter if she's really keen to be pregnant.
Think of all the trouble this will cause everyone involved if it doesn't work out.
It's a massive move having a child you know yourself you will be tied for life together.

No your daughter doesn't get to decided who you date, if yiu may date someone.
I have seen two men I know well get too quickly invoved and the relationships didn't last.
Maybe it will, she's right for you, but don't go bringing aother child into it yet.Even if it's just because you're thinking of yourself, it diesn't sound like it would be easy.

Colourfulduvets · 19/11/2024 07:25

As I said in previous posts, I think moving on with a new partner is fine if it's done sensitively and with the child's best interests in mind.
The thing that doesn't ring true with the OP's story though is the idea that he's "practically housebound", puts his daughter first but has found the time to work, go to the gym and date while being a full time parent.

When my exH and I split up the kids stayed with me full time and I definitely couldn't fit the dating bit in.🤷‍♂️

pinkdelight · 19/11/2024 08:50

It sounds like you're seeing it as your marriage has been over effectively for 4 years, but for your DD, her parents only split up this year. You're also saying you've been alone for a year, but that doesn't stack up if you split with your wife this year and been with gf for 6 months. So you're pushing your POV that you've been alone a long time and fear being alone forever hence this gf is your right, whereas the reality is you've barely caught your breath from separating and you're dating again with a 6mo relationship that you've already told your DD about and are considering future babies. It is way too much for your DD who not only has had her world fall apart with her parents split, but also hasn't gone to the normal co-parenting situation but has no mum in her life day to day which is a huge thing for a teenage girl to cope with. The fact that her relationship with her mum wasn't good doesn't make it better that she's having to deal with this. It just adds to the complexities she's having to cope with. You could easily lighten her load by not prioritising your dating life for the time being. It absolutely would not leave you housebound or single for life. That's just self-centred hyperbole and I think you know it if you're honest with yourself.

Lavenderfields21 · 19/11/2024 09:02

OP as someone who's been through this, I'll share my experience. Divorced when DD was 6, met someone when DD was 9. He was ready to move in when DD was 12. They get on great, but DD said she didn't want him to move in. He understood and is happy to wait. Upon reflection, 2 years later, I can see it was the right decision. It's such a tricky time for children and they need so much emotional stability. It has been so worth it putting my DD's need for stability first. You really can't put a value on their mental and emotional health. You only have one chance not to mess this parenting thing up.

Vanishedwillow · 19/11/2024 09:09

Sceptical123 · 19/11/2024 06:52

You said your wife had left this year - so you’ve not been alone a year. When did she leave? January? May? You’ve been dating this woman for 6 months, so if your wife left early jan that’s only 4 months between then and meeting your current gf. Presumably she wasn’t the very first person you met on OLD - if that’s where you met, unless you were extremely lucky, so you would have been actively dating and seeking someone pretty soon after the split - which your daughter would probably have been aware of. Not massively great for her sense of security and self esteem, bless her when she’s had to adjust to her mother walking out and a huge change to her home life.

I’m speculating massively here, but if he met someone that quickly, she’s either a colleague or “friend” he’s known for a while.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 19/11/2024 09:18

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 12:00

Never locked anyone up. Quite the opposite in fact. How else would you term not being able to hardly ever go out the evening or weekends, having no support or childcare. Women always have people to turn to, friends, parents. A single Dad is much harder to get support for. It's a pleasure to care for my child, but I think as any Mum would attest to, we all need to be happy personally so we can be at our best for the child.

Men have exactly as much support if they put as much effort into nurturing relationships with people they didn't want to sleep with Hmm

You've got so defensive on this thread, and I get it. But if you can't see the difference between your wants and needs (a relationship) and your daughter's perspective, or the woman you're currently seeing's perspective about having a child, then you're a lost cause and frankly stand to lose the relationship with your child.

If you're such a good dad, then prove it by putting her first. Your wife left six months ago, you already have a girlfriend of six months, your daughter isn't ready, the girlfriend is desperate for a baby...this is a mess.

(Also: in my previous post I missed a "you're" that should've been a "your". Please consider this my correction!)

Sceptical123 · 19/11/2024 09:40

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 10:03

I know all men say this, but I am a very young 50. Run and go to the gym almost everyday and definitely don't look my age. And also, my ex wife was five years older than me, which is very rare for a man and it never bothered me.

But you give your daughter all your spare time? Do you mean all the spare time you have outside of the gym, running and having a 6 month relationship? Bizarre mentality and blind justification. What an amazing lack of self awareness and victim hood. And you’re ‘housebound’ during the week too?! So gym, running and gf all take place at the weekend. Which means your daughter sees you when you finish work after school, essentially in the evening. What amazing quality time you must share. 👏🏻

TheMoonismadeofcheese · 19/11/2024 11:29

I’ve read all your replies carefully. I think you have to resign yourself to living separately from your girlfriend for at least a couple of years , see where you are then. Your daughter may know her better by then , have resolved the issues with her mother and feel more secure. It’s really not fair to even think of moving your gf in at this time, let alone think of having a child with her.

Im not sure why you are housebound either. Surely your daughter is old enough to be left for a couple of hours in the evening sometimes?

TheShellBeach · 19/11/2024 11:31

I'm not sure why you are housebound either. Surely your daughter is old enough to be left for a couple of hours in the evening sometimes?

He must leave her when he goes to shag the new girlfriend.

😂

villagecrafts · 19/11/2024 12:18

CheekySwan · 18/11/2024 11:29

Wow, the age thing really is an issue for some people on here, 15 year age gap between my mum and dad and they've been married 40 years. Friend of mine has been married 15 years to a man 17 years older than her. They are adults, age is not a big deal unless its inappropriate.

As you said, your wife left you mentally years ago, you were already separated when she left, just living together so I don't think it's unreasonable that you embarked on a new relationship what in numbers looks rather fast but in the circumstances not.

You can't pussyfoot around your daughter, she will need to deal with it and I think i said earlier that they should meet on neutral ground. (I just wanted to come back on to say about the age thing)

And, if you want another child go ahead and have one - in you OP it didn't say you wanted one right away, there is time for daughter to get to know partner, and if she is a teen she will be off having her own life soon enough.

I have friends who have had babies at 39 and 43, and where the father is a lot older - they are loving life.

Do what makes you happy, you deserve it. Just reassure daughter.

This ^.

@HopperDash I can't believe the bitterness on this thread. You sound like a good, loving caring Dad to me.

villagecrafts · 19/11/2024 12:26

Amuseaboosh · 18/11/2024 07:05

OP, no one can advise you on your daughter's reaction. We don't know her. You do.

Unless she has a significant history of mental health issues, please don't put your life on hold. You will not be helping her, and she will only struggle more so the older she gets. She will also take this lesson into other parts of her life, which won't benefit her in her own relationships.

I would not move your partner in just yet unless you have been together for 3 or 4 years, and moving in has been an open conversation for you all, regardless of how your DD feels.

I would keep reassuring your daughter, I would spend one on one time with her; without your partner and then I would build up to a meeting, more, 'we are going for a walk on x day at x time', or an activity that you know your daughter will love. If you keep waiting for her to agree, it'll never happen. You have to help her to understand that life is all about change. Change is uncomfortable, but it leads to growth, and we have to try. You're not encouraging her to become a criminal. You're trying to help her move forward with you while supporting that transition from just the 2 of you to 3, maybe 4 of you. Life doesn't stop for anyone, not even our children. The difference is that we can be kind about how we proceed and at what pace we proceed.

Your daughter is responding to this situation purely from her limbic system. Read or listen to the Chimp Paradox. It will benefit your understanding of her feelings a huge amount.

All of the above is truly dependent on how long you've been in this relationship. Your daughters age matters. Is she 13, 15, or 17?

Please don't be afraid to live. You're more than 'Dad', and one day, your daughter will be more than just your little girl. I doubt that as an adult, she'd want to know she's responsible for a lonely old age for you, not to mention sole caring responsibilities for her. We all need support and opportunities for growth.

Help her to navigate this challenge. Don't hide from it or be frozen by it.

Oh, and my experience comes from being a long-time family law practitioner, working closely with Cafcass, Mediators, Child Psychologists, Judges, Social Services, Local Authorities, Teachers, Therapists and, being a mum to 3 daughters for almost 2 decades.

Also, my husband is 50. He absolutely could be a Dad at 50, and he'd be fantastic at it.

This ^

Another great perspective for you, @HopperDash

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/11/2024 12:45

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 10:03

I know all men say this, but I am a very young 50. Run and go to the gym almost everyday and definitely don't look my age. And also, my ex wife was five years older than me, which is very rare for a man and it never bothered me.

You run and go to the gym almost every day, but in your second post you say that you are 'housebound', @HopperDash - both cannot be true.

I cannot go anywhere without someone driving me and dropping me at the door (thanks to long covid exhaustion/breathlessness). I go out once a week, to the library for a knitting group, and otherwise, I am at home. That is much closer to housebound, in my humble opinion.

Fluffyiguana · 19/11/2024 13:06

villagecrafts · 19/11/2024 12:26

This ^

Another great perspective for you, @HopperDash

Far from a great perspective, it doesn't even make any sense.

The poster is both encouraging him to be a dad at 50 and saying he should wait 3-4+ years to move his partner in.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 19/11/2024 13:26

HopperDash · 18/11/2024 11:24

Disagree. Child and parent can be happy somehow and I'm definitely not selfish after four years being unwanted. Why should I suck it up, I already have for long enough, I pretty much have raised my child all the way through on my own, as her mother has never been very maternal. Again, you don't know me and are projecting as to who I am. Wanting to be happy is not selfish. Not finding a way to make it work with your child or caring about them is. This is not who I am, regardless of how you see me from behind the keyboard.

Edited

I don't really know why you bothered posting as you clearly aren't interested in the responses. You've decided that you're not selfish and that it's reasonable to prioritise your own happiness over and above the happiness of your daughter, so crack on. It doesn't really matter what we think on here, it will be for your daughter to decide whether or not she can forgive you.

Inyournewdress · 19/11/2024 13:42

The ageism on this thread has been depressing. I am an older parent so I know only too well that it isn’t the ideal and that it brings problems. I wanted to have children younger but for various reasons not worth going into here I could not, and I was not about to give up just because I was older.

Most people on this thread probably don’t know a really extended family tree, but if you could see back a few generations or even less I would make a prediction….if it weren’t for a woman having children over 40 and/or men over 50 doing so, there may be very few if any of us on this thread would exist. So unless you would prefer to erase the existence of yourself and your children it’s logical to be accepting of older parents. Going back before family planning most people started quite young, but also went on having children…so yes sometimes they were welcoming a new child and a new grandchild at the same time. Perish the thought for many of you but that is literally life.

pinkdelight · 19/11/2024 13:56

Inyournewdress · 19/11/2024 13:42

The ageism on this thread has been depressing. I am an older parent so I know only too well that it isn’t the ideal and that it brings problems. I wanted to have children younger but for various reasons not worth going into here I could not, and I was not about to give up just because I was older.

Most people on this thread probably don’t know a really extended family tree, but if you could see back a few generations or even less I would make a prediction….if it weren’t for a woman having children over 40 and/or men over 50 doing so, there may be very few if any of us on this thread would exist. So unless you would prefer to erase the existence of yourself and your children it’s logical to be accepting of older parents. Going back before family planning most people started quite young, but also went on having children…so yes sometimes they were welcoming a new child and a new grandchild at the same time. Perish the thought for many of you but that is literally life.

Extrapolating from the OP's situation to generalised ageism feels like looking for something to take offence at. And arguing that it's logical to accept older parents otherwise we'd be erased is another very generalised argument while you yourself admit it's not ideal and brings problems. Most posts here are dealing with the specific problems of the OP's scenario which are very far from ideal. We don't have to be cheering him on just because in days of yore there was a whole tradition of guys over 50 marrying women way young than OP's girlfriend. Lots of things happened in our ancestral family trees that we don't have condone in order to be glad we exist today.

Fluffyiguana · 19/11/2024 14:20

Inyournewdress · 19/11/2024 13:42

The ageism on this thread has been depressing. I am an older parent so I know only too well that it isn’t the ideal and that it brings problems. I wanted to have children younger but for various reasons not worth going into here I could not, and I was not about to give up just because I was older.

Most people on this thread probably don’t know a really extended family tree, but if you could see back a few generations or even less I would make a prediction….if it weren’t for a woman having children over 40 and/or men over 50 doing so, there may be very few if any of us on this thread would exist. So unless you would prefer to erase the existence of yourself and your children it’s logical to be accepting of older parents. Going back before family planning most people started quite young, but also went on having children…so yes sometimes they were welcoming a new child and a new grandchild at the same time. Perish the thought for many of you but that is literally life.

We can't disagree with things our ancestors did hundreds of years ago that resulted in the birth of offspring otherwise we're saying we want to erase our own existence? 🤔

You've made some big leaps there to demonise people who disagree with having children in very late life!

I imagine a lot of my ancestors were born as a result of no contraception, date rape, rape between husband and wife not being recognised, abortion being illegal.. all sorts of things that I have every right to disagree with regardless of them having resulted in my existence several generations on.

Inyournewdress · 19/11/2024 14:31

pinkdelight · 19/11/2024 13:56

Extrapolating from the OP's situation to generalised ageism feels like looking for something to take offence at. And arguing that it's logical to accept older parents otherwise we'd be erased is another very generalised argument while you yourself admit it's not ideal and brings problems. Most posts here are dealing with the specific problems of the OP's scenario which are very far from ideal. We don't have to be cheering him on just because in days of yore there was a whole tradition of guys over 50 marrying women way young than OP's girlfriend. Lots of things happened in our ancestral family trees that we don't have condone in order to be glad we exist today.

No, I am not looking for something to take offence at, although it is something I am sensitive about! I agree though that it is somewhat off topic as the OP’s situation is about other complexities too.

I don’t think there was a huge tradition of guys over 50 marrying really young women, more that they just kept going until the wife was too old to bear more children.

Inyournewdress · 19/11/2024 14:34

Fluffyiguana · 19/11/2024 14:20

We can't disagree with things our ancestors did hundreds of years ago that resulted in the birth of offspring otherwise we're saying we want to erase our own existence? 🤔

You've made some big leaps there to demonise people who disagree with having children in very late life!

I imagine a lot of my ancestors were born as a result of no contraception, date rape, rape between husband and wife not being recognised, abortion being illegal.. all sorts of things that I have every right to disagree with regardless of them having resulted in my existence several generations on.

Yes I see your point. I really do. I do think though that the terrible things you mention are not really similar to just letting nature take its course during a marriage and having children within the timespan dictated by natural biological circumstance.

Colourfulduvets · 19/11/2024 17:25

villagecrafts · 19/11/2024 12:18

This ^.

@HopperDash I can't believe the bitterness on this thread. You sound like a good, loving caring Dad to me.

I hate the reductive idea that anyone with a different view to the OP is "bitter".
I expect the OP will do as you say and will go ahead and do exactly what he wants with no real respect of his daughter's wishes.
And I hope it works out - for her sake.

But he runs the risk of damaging the relationship he has with her which he is so proud of and has clearly worked hard to establish.
Why take that risk right now?

No one has been saying he has to avoid relationships forever but, as others have pointed out, it hasn't been the same experience for his daughter & this situation is still new.
She's a child fgs and she is telling him her truth around this. A "very, very good dad" would listen and listen well, not ignore her and forge ahead regardless.

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