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A bomb has landed in my marriage...

198 replies

Kewforyourlife · 01/11/2024 16:17

Please be gentle, this is happening right now and I'm completely numb with no idea what to do.

DH and I have been married 22 years, children between 11-18, no problems, so I believed, both very happy. Went away yesterday for a couple of childfree nights, children with GP's.

In the hotel last night we were watching a movie on his laptop when he decided to nip out and get some drinks from the shop across the road. His laptop kept beeping loudly from the time he left and I couldn't work out why, turns out his what's app is linked and the beeps were messages he was both sending and receiving. It was very vague, he had sent the postcode of our hotel and the reply was 'I'm 4 mins away, how much' DH replied '1' this was the latest message, there were several from approx 2 weeks ago when he was away with our eldest son, similar context, time, location etc. To cut a long story short he has been contacting a dealer to buy cocaine, whilst on what I thought was an amazing break away and whilst ge was away with our son.
Then it came out its been going for months, even years, he was high last weekend because he scored some cocaine when he popped out for a couple of hours to buy new running shoes.
I'm shell shocked, disgusted, angry. Why is our life not enough for him? I'm never going to be able to get over him trying to score when he was with our son. I just don't know what to do or say, all wise words welcomed.

OP posts:
BoudiccasBangles · 01/11/2024 17:51

Futurethinking2026 · 01/11/2024 17:23

You can not in anyway compare a few drinks to a class A drug!

Exactly. So many reasons it’s not okay, especially if OP’s DH is scoring whilst he has DS with him. I’m really sorry you’re in this position, OP. Second PPs who’ve said don’t do anything while you’re in shock. Can you get some counselling to get your head around where it leaves your marriage? You really need some safe space for yourself while you process this. Hugs x

Levithecat · 01/11/2024 17:52

tribpot · 01/11/2024 17:27

I can't face this role of 'mother' I feel he's forced me into, I don't want to be checking finances, worrying when he leaves the house or when I'm away with work. But more than that, I worry he's just going to get craftier and betting at hiding it.

Yep, this is a very valid way to feel. Unless he is going to take ownership of this problem and its solution, it's ultimately going to kill your marriage anyway.

100%. I hate that I felt forced into this role. It’s not the right dynamic for a marriage.

oakleaffy · 01/11/2024 17:52

AnonymousBleep · 01/11/2024 17:46

Not just in London. Any city or large town. And some villages!

Lol yes!
A drug project senior worker lives in an expensive village and coke use is rife in that Uber middle class Huntin’ shootin’ village

On a walk I saw drug litter on a green lane
Crack cocaine and heroin ( they’d left it by where they’d parked up to have a session)

thicklysettled · 01/11/2024 17:55

Sixpence39 · 01/11/2024 17:08

Just for another perspective, specifically in relation to "Why is our life not enough for him?"

It's interesting to me that you are fine with him being on his way to get drinks. Presumably both of you being drunk together doesn't mean your life is 'not enough? Might be useful to examine why one drug is a total devastation for you but the other is not. Is it the legality? The sneaking around/not telling you? Or the perceived idea of what coke is? It's extremely similar in effect to alcohol and I dont see any difference really for casual use. Would be worth asking him how often and what his triggers are eg is it just enjoyment or addiction. That being said, just like with alcoholism, if DH is lying about it and sneaking around that probably indicates addiction and he should get help. The other element is unpacking what is driving your reaction to it.

I tend to agree. I understand your upset, OP, and I say this as someone who has never done drugs (not even weed). I'm no one's idea of a "cool wife", either. But - legality aside - I'm not sure recreational coke use is that dissimilar to drinking. Not good, obviously, but I wouldn't rush to any decisions right now.

I actually thought you'd discovered some Huw Edwards-like activity from the opening lines of your post. In comparison to that, I think this is not quite the bomb it may have initially felt like.

Tittat50 · 01/11/2024 17:55

@OutbackQueen I did expect a response. Not preachy at all and I also agree entirely with that opening line. I have so much affinity for people who've come through the other side. The reality is though, it's an awful lot to take on if you're supporting this. And so many people take zero responsibility or accountability. Then it's hell for others.

( Raised in a dysfunctional family of alcoholism. Still impacted by ongoing alcoholism. Not mine)

Total kudos to you for what you're doing. 🙏

oakleaffy · 01/11/2024 17:56

Tittat50 · 01/11/2024 17:25

I personally can't see it as comparable to having a drink. I don't drink so I'm not saying this out of personal denial. Rather, his behaviour here smells of addiction. Is he demonstrating the same with his drinking?

Going to the lengths he has to lie, meet a random drug dealer and snort some marching powder whilst having a quiet night in with his wife doesn't signal one off / special occasion use. I could spot people coked up because they end up becoming even more arrogant, hideous and cocky to the extent you want to escape.

I'd ask him exactly what he proposes to do to address this issue. If he has this addiction, there's the consideration that he will always be some sort of addict in recovery now and all the shit that comes with this. If it isn't coke, what else will it become. There's often a hell of alot to unpick underneath an addicts behaviour and that can be incredibly difficult to deal with. I think it's not often one just says ok I'll stop and the problem is forever gone.

Agreed
Coke users are such a pain to be around.

Instant Arsehole; just add Coke!
Add drink to the mix and they are intolerable.

A lot of violence ( according to door staff) is due to Coke and booze combined.

thicklysettled · 01/11/2024 17:56

goawaynottoday · 01/11/2024 17:40

Only in London.

You're kidding yourself if you think that.

PiggyPlumPie · 01/11/2024 17:58

AnonymousBleep · 01/11/2024 17:46

Not just in London. Any city or large town. And some villages!

We're in a NE Scotland medium sized town. DHs work have just brought in drug testing. Out of the 12 random tests they carried out, 4 were positive. It is rife among professionals.

EdithBond · 01/11/2024 17:58

OutbackQueen · 01/11/2024 17:25

Totally agree with @ComingBackHome
When I was caught drink-driving I thought I’d lose my daughter (24.) But I went straight into AA and told her I’d do everything in my power to stop. She told me she wouldn’t believe my promises and would just watch what I did. I went to meetings 5 times a week and she saw for herself how I was changing and I slowly regained her trust.
I got sober in AA, haven’t had a drink for 14 months and have a better relationship with her than ever before.
I did it for her but just as importantly for myself and I’m a better person for it. It’s totally up to your husband to take responsibility and show you how much he regrets his actions.
Addiction is an illness not a weakness so I urge you to try and understand that. It’s not a question of how good a life he has with you (posters on here who have advised you to leave him clearly don’t appreciate that and know nothing about addiction.)
If he’s using drugs recreationally, that’s a whole different ballgame.
You know him better than we do. Only you can decide whether to give him a chance.

That’s pretty impressive. Many congrats on all the work you’ve put in, and will continue to put in, both for yourself and your daughter. 100% agree actions speak louder than words, especially when trust has been betrayed.

itsmylife7 · 01/11/2024 18:01

I think the fact he scored cocaine when out with your child is so bad.

To me this shows a real dependency on his drug taking.

I know you're in shock at the moment but you need to find out how long he's been using.

AnonymousBleep · 01/11/2024 18:02

PiggyPlumPie · 01/11/2024 17:58

We're in a NE Scotland medium sized town. DHs work have just brought in drug testing. Out of the 12 random tests they carried out, 4 were positive. It is rife among professionals.

I've got some friends my age (late 40s/50s) who'll still get coke in for a night out. I don't know how they can be bothered. But it's definitely much more common than a lot of people think.

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 01/11/2024 18:03

goawaynottoday · 01/11/2024 17:40

Only in London.

... no.

TorroFerney · 01/11/2024 18:04

ginasevern · 01/11/2024 17:40

@Sixpence39

"It's interesting to me that you are fine with him being on his way to get drinks. Presumably both of you being drunk together doesn't mean your life is 'not enough? Might be useful to examine why one drug is a total devastation for you but the other is not. Is it the legality?"

Oh do give over! Are you seriously comparing someone scoring and addicted to class A drugs to a married couple on a weekend break sharing a bottle of wine or a few beers. The OP didn't say they were going to get fucked out of their heads on booze did she. Quite frankly, even if they were going to get tiddly on a very rare weekend break it still doesn't compare on any level to addiction and the car crash it creates. You're actually questioning why the OP is devastated to find out her DH is a cocaine addict and buys drugs whilst supposedly caring for their son, but isn't devastated that he's popped out to buy a few beers? Seriously?

I agree, crikey it's Cocaine - notwithstanding the fact that it's a class A drug leaving aside the damage it does to a person if we want to say that's no different to booze, the criminality it props up and is propped up by it is just on another level.

Tittat50 · 01/11/2024 18:05

I agree casual use is incredibly common. We used to dabble in our late 20s, as did many on an occasional wknd out here in the back of beyond. Luckily I didn't get addicted, didn't see the appeal quite quickly. The cost is also an issue.
Hope he isn't draining your account funding it.

MounjaroUser · 01/11/2024 18:10

Are you sure he didn't tell your son about the cocaine?

Calmnessandchaos · 01/11/2024 18:11

I can't even imagine how you are feeling. I'm so sorry you're going through this.

One piece of advice I would give is, if you can, separate your finances. If you have a joint account, work out your wages, what you and your children need to survive, bills etc. and get your own account set up. Sadly, you don't know how deep he is in his drug use and how much he spends/ has been spending. Even the odd £100 is money that is being taken from your children.
Good luck.

Zanatdy · 01/11/2024 18:14

Is it recreational though when he’s scoring when he’s with his child. I doubt it. I’d walk

YellowAsteroid · 01/11/2024 18:14

People are so so bored sometimes and our society is stifling.

Good try @CAJIE but no dice.

If you're bored that is your problem. It's down to your lack of thought, intelligence, curiosity or energy.

Boredom is no excuse for addiction. Boredom is a personal failing not some sort of condition to feel sorry for the bored person.

If you're bored & stifled, do something interesting that doesn't involve sitting around and taking mind-altering substances which make you believe you're special. You're not. People high on drugs or alcohol are very very uninteresting.

oakleaffy · 01/11/2024 18:14

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 01/11/2024 18:03

... no.

The person who said “Only in London “ must be very delusional
I bet much like 🐀 rats, those of us in villages towns and cities are no more than a few metres from
a wrap of cocaine.

It really is everywhere.
County Lines make it so.

Middle Class Luvvies don’t care where it comes from, or the murder and misery that is done in the country of origin with the ruthless drugs gangs.

If it was legal ( ironically it can be prescribed by a Doctor with a home office licence) it would be different.

commonsense61 · 01/11/2024 18:16

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5128gap · 01/11/2024 18:17

Mine always told me that we and his life were enough. It was him that wasn't. It made no difference to the outcome. There wasn't a happy ending. But please don't add to your own pain by thinking you and the life you offer are somehow lacking. That's not how it works or why they do it.

romdowa · 01/11/2024 18:19

itsmylife7 · 01/11/2024 18:01

I think the fact he scored cocaine when out with your child is so bad.

To me this shows a real dependency on his drug taking.

I know you're in shock at the moment but you need to find out how long he's been using.

This ! Scoring drugs while out with his son is a disgrace. I'd loose the plot

OhBeAFineGuyKissMe · 01/11/2024 18:19

Did he take coke when sole responsible for your child and did he drive when high (with your child in the car)?

If yes, then he has clearly gone beyond occasional user and is putting your children at risk.

He will be admitting the minimum he thinks he can get away with and hiding as much as he can from you,

If the relationship were to continue you would have to reinstall ish the trust - but I don’t know how to do that without assuming the caretaker role (checking finances, drug testing, checking attendance of appiointment). And that is such a fundamental change to the relationship I am now sure it is actually possible.

bitsalty · 01/11/2024 18:24

Sixpence39 · 01/11/2024 17:08

Just for another perspective, specifically in relation to "Why is our life not enough for him?"

It's interesting to me that you are fine with him being on his way to get drinks. Presumably both of you being drunk together doesn't mean your life is 'not enough? Might be useful to examine why one drug is a total devastation for you but the other is not. Is it the legality? The sneaking around/not telling you? Or the perceived idea of what coke is? It's extremely similar in effect to alcohol and I dont see any difference really for casual use. Would be worth asking him how often and what his triggers are eg is it just enjoyment or addiction. That being said, just like with alcoholism, if DH is lying about it and sneaking around that probably indicates addiction and he should get help. The other element is unpacking what is driving your reaction to it.

I think this is really good advice.

Whether this is a deal breaker depends on where the line is for the OP but it doesn't have to be. Despite the general view on here, recreational drug use does not mean dependence.

The lies etc would bother me far more than occasional coke use if he had a handle on it. Going off to score when away isn't great so many in this case he does have a drug problem.

Desperatetimeshavetoend · 01/11/2024 18:24

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