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He bought her diamond jewellery - Follow on thread

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Spikyseason · 29/10/2024 09:24

I was in two minds as to whether to make a follow-on thread, but primarily I wanted to thank everyone who supported me on the previous thread. I am so grateful for such comprehensive and sound advice, and for those who were brave enough to share their own experiences with me. I do at least feel less alone.

I have an update as I spoke to DH when he got home yesterday, about everything. I’ll try to summarise.

He was still cagey about his feelings for OW. He did admit he missed her and he said he had communicated that to her since. He also said he was only human and had wanted to make sure she was ok, ‘what happened’ was his fault and he hadn’t intended to hurt her or me. He apologised for it, said it wouldn’t happen again. That ultimately he had made the decision to commit to his family and the promises he made. Usual. Wanted the opportunity to prove that.

The furthest he would admit to was that it was an emotional thing (couldn’t really deny that given the jewellery - he promised it was not a ring) but ultimately being in his children’s lives was more important, that clearly there are problems in our marriage that he should have addressed, he didn’t blame me, but overall he felt we could work on any problems between us for the sake of DC and he understood it would take a long time for me to trust him.

I do feel very much like he wants to just get back to normal asap. I also feel like he is maybe either lying to me about feelings for OW or in denial. Perhaps he thinks with time any feelings will fade. I think though if you genuinely loved someone that never goes away. I don’t suppose I’ll get any true answers on that front. I mean worst case he did and I suppose we just carry on and hope for the best and he forgets all about her, if he genuinely is committed to that?

On some level of course I worry this would never have happened if he genuinely loved me. I read something somewhere once that if someone falls in love outside of the marriage then it’s almost always irreconcilable. But if we’re both determined to make it work then I hope eventually the memory and pain will fade? I don’t know - I would welcome thoughts from those who tried but ultimately had to call it a day 😕 I don’t know if I’m kidding myself. My primary concern is DC but also aware I have a fear of change.

I was having therapy before, I’ve rebooked some sessions to help get my head straight as I don’t feel strong enough to leave yet. Part of me feels like time will test his actual commitment. Then there’s the angry part of me that doesn’t see why he should just be able to walk out on his wife and family into a shiny new life…

Anyway, I just wanted to provide a little update and thank you all again x

OP posts:
mejustmenothingtobe · 29/12/2024 08:40

Sadly you have to assume the worst and do EVERYTHING by stealth. Get as much financial info as possible including statements, pension details, tax returns etc etc without arousing suspicion. I even took photos of his watches all the time thinking I was a lunatic but the pictures were invaluable later when he tried to undervalue
Them in the divorce paperwork. Expect the unbelievable I'm afraid. Good luck.

cooldarkroom · 29/12/2024 12:51

Spikey, are you staying with this arse of a man ?

Plastictrees · 09/01/2025 18:50

@Spikyseason Happy new year, how are you doing?

Buddhalover · 10/01/2025 10:28

Been thinking about you a lot over Christmas/New Year, be lovely to know if your ok and how your coping?
I'm sure we're all wishing you the very best outcome. 😘

Battyfumworts · 25/01/2025 08:16

@Spikyseason hope you’re ok? Have been thinking of you

Christmaschildcare · 31/10/2025 11:36

Thinking of you @Spikyseason and really hoping you’re ok x

Spikyseason · 01/11/2025 08:11

Christmaschildcare · 31/10/2025 11:36

Thinking of you @Spikyseason and really hoping you’re ok x

Thank you - after a last ditch attempt at reconciliation I caught him still looking up OW even after all this time. He is still in the house but after Xmas we’ll have to tell DC and start making arrangements for him to move out I suppose…

OP posts:
OchreRaven · 01/11/2025 08:16

@Spikyseason sorry to hear that you gave him another chance and he blew it. Does he accept it’s over now? Hoping you can start to heal once he’s out of the house.

Spikyseason · 01/11/2025 08:22

It’s like he really couldn’t help himself!!
tbh I think part of him is relieved and it was more resignation than this big explosive thing. So it at least feels more controlled rather than just reactive.

OP posts:
LomotheGreat · 01/11/2025 08:36

If you want to try and save your marriage, you need to be prepared to give him time to mourn his OW and the end of his relationship with her.
It sounds like you're doing a good job of being there for him while he confides in you about how he misses her.

This is the reality of your situation OP. Would you advise your best friend to do the same if they were in your shoes?

AnonAnonmystery · 01/11/2025 09:14

Spikyseason · 01/11/2025 08:22

It’s like he really couldn’t help himself!!
tbh I think part of him is relieved and it was more resignation than this big explosive thing. So it at least feels more controlled rather than just reactive.

I am glad you are no longer wasting your time on him. You gave it one last shot but he seems too invested but “ trying to do the right thing”. I hope you are ok. So is he still having the relationship with the ow?

AnonAnonmystery · 01/11/2025 09:15

LomotheGreat · 01/11/2025 08:36

If you want to try and save your marriage, you need to be prepared to give him time to mourn his OW and the end of his relationship with her.
It sounds like you're doing a good job of being there for him while he confides in you about how he misses her.

This is the reality of your situation OP. Would you advise your best friend to do the same if they were in your shoes?

op has been trying for over a year. She shouldn’t waste any more time.

Imbusytodaysorry · 01/11/2025 09:22

@Spikyseason did you ever get therapy and a forensic accountant ?
Sorry op but this time last year he was out all the time and you were asleep before he got home or he was in the other room due to “work stress.”
How was this ever going to work ?
He will leave you once the kids are non dependents . You and them will
get less financially and all these years too of less emotionally and the lack of love .

If you have already investigated his finances I would be serving the papers tomorrow. What are you waiting for now ?

ILoveNigelTufnel · 01/11/2025 09:48

No advice but look after yourself @Spikyseason it’s been a tough year + however long by the sounds of it. You are obviously an incredibly tough person (whether you realise it or not) and there is light at the end of of the tunnel. Sending a hug x

Christmaschildcare · 01/11/2025 10:09

So sorry to hear that @Spikyseason. wishing you and your children all the very best x

Thewookiemustgo · 01/11/2025 10:14

I wouldn’t be giving anybody time to “mourn” anything except the huge loss of their own morality and standards. If he wants to mope around and keep looking up an OW he shouldn’t have had in the first place he can do it elsewhere.

Spikyseason · 01/11/2025 14:15

Also I think it’s far beyond a ‘mourning’ period, I don’t think he is seeing her, I suspect she moved on but he is just pining. Whatever.
I already got the ball rolling on the actual divorce but trying to minimise disruption for DC, he’s here so I frequently due to work right now it’s not hard to avoid each other.

OP posts:
Emptyspiral · 01/11/2025 14:34

LomotheGreat · 01/11/2025 08:36

If you want to try and save your marriage, you need to be prepared to give him time to mourn his OW and the end of his relationship with her.
It sounds like you're doing a good job of being there for him while he confides in you about how he misses her.

This is the reality of your situation OP. Would you advise your best friend to do the same if they were in your shoes?

It's been a year. Have you even read the threads? This was on him, not OP. She owes him nothing. This mourning the affair is absurd. He is a self absorbed man who wants to do what he wants to do. OP is not his therapist to cry to about his infidelity. Stop defending him and giving him an out for his awful choices and actions. This post is so obtuse. Read the damn room.

Gloriia · 01/11/2025 14:57

'This mourning the affair is absurd'

Yes, what a thing to say on a thread by a woman who has been treated appallingly by her 'd'h. Mourn the affair my arse.

Op, I'm so sorry it has come to this. I know the wellbeing of your dc is paramount but please, please take care of yourself too Flowers.

Cherryontop56 · 01/11/2025 19:25

OP I was literally just thinking about you the other day and wondered how you were doing!

You have given him another chance and tried but it’s time to walk away.

Pryceosh1987 · 02/11/2025 01:57

Committment is tested with truthfulness, and intimacy.

WizardOfAus · 26/11/2025 22:19

How are things @Spikyseason ?

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