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Grandparents on partners side treating my 2 kids differently.

179 replies

Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 12:22

I’ve two children. One is from a different relationship but partners parents been in her life since age 3. She is 9 now. Anyway the grandparents will make an effort with the youngest (biological (although not a huge amount of effort)) but basically nothing with her. They make a lot of effort with their other grandchildren. I know she isn’t biological but this doesn’t sit well with me at all and I’m not sure what to do. It’s not on that she is left out and it’s really making me dislike them.

What would you do? I know I have no control over how they behave.

She has no contact with her fathers side and I’ve lost my parents.

OP posts:
Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 22:39

MyHouseIsABusStop · 25/10/2024 22:36

"I’m pretty sure at the start his mum told him that he’s too different and I’m not their kind of people"

Did your BF tell you this? How did you find this out?

Honestly, I would just leave your BF to it with them, he can take your youngest with him to visit them, you and your eldest go LC or NC and only see them at the usual weddings or funerals. It doesn't need to be stressful.

He did, he said it about most of his girlfriends. He said he used to have a thing about tattoos and they hated the girls. I don’t have tattoos lol. But it’s up to him who he finds attractive and people with tattoos aren’t instantly bad.

OP posts:
Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 22:47

MillyMollyMandHey · 25/10/2024 22:39

She also doesn’t get to break up my family.
We come together or we don’t come at all.

How are they breaking up your family? You do understand that you are just their son's gf? And she is just your child? You're not married, and even if you were, that wouldn't make her their grandchild. Why do you keep mentioning she's autistic, like that means they should just do what she wants and call her grandchild?

You've blended a a family; they have not. You seem very rigid in your thinking, tbh. What are the issues of the past, and what you've all been thorough you keep alluding to? It's very dramatic.

I disagree and I think they are very rigid. We are a family as much as anyone else is. So blended families deserve less love and less respect and young children don’t get considered and they get split up. My little one adores her big sister, do hers needs not matter either. They are sisters in each others eyes, they love each other. I don’t want family coming along and trying to label their standing in the family. They can figure out labels when they are older if they need to.

OP posts:
Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 22:49

She understands that her sisters dad is not her own just to make it clear. But she loves her little sister. Half sister or whatever.

OP posts:
MyHouseIsABusStop · 25/10/2024 22:58

Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 22:49

She understands that her sisters dad is not her own just to make it clear. But she loves her little sister. Half sister or whatever.

You still haven't answered whether or not your older daughter calls your BF Dad?

Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 23:02

MyHouseIsABusStop · 25/10/2024 22:58

You still haven't answered whether or not your older daughter calls your BF Dad?

I believe I have and just to be clear no she doesn’t. She has always called him his name. Same like his parents until she heard little one calling granddad and then asked if it was ok if she called him Grandad as she doesn't have one, they are both dead. She has an alive dad.

OP posts:
Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 23:06

Thanks for the replies but I’m off now. It’s been an absolute let down and has reminded me how utterly shameful half the population is, many seem to be on here. I hope no one needs any support from any non blood related family in the future. I hope my eldest doesn’t grow up to replicate the heartlessness she is encountering.

OP posts:
MyHouseIsABusStop · 25/10/2024 23:07

Okay... so if your child doesn't call your BF dad, because he isn't her dad and she already has a dad, why do you think it's appropriate for her to call you BFs father 'granddad'?

itsmabeline · 25/10/2024 23:08

What is it specifically that they do to leave her out?

For some things you would expect this as they are only the grandparents of one of your children. But if they go to the shops and bring back one lolly instead of two then I agree on that level that is a mean thing to do.

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 25/10/2024 23:21

They bring you no joy. They’ve been mean to every single one of his girlfriends. I suspect he’s the scapegoat and his sibling the golden child.
Dont spend any time with people who bring you no joy. Let your partner visit them if he wants to, he’s probably still hoping for some scraps of love and approval.
Stay home or go and do something else that lifts the spirits. They just don’t sound like people who will ever bring anything positive to your life.

Kick them hard out of the rent free space they are occupying in your head.
My in laws were the pits, miserable old vinegar sipping buggers.
You can do it, kick hard, keep kicking!

EdgarAllanCrow · 26/10/2024 01:59

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TheHatingGame · 26/10/2024 02:07

I don't think you can expect them to treat her the same or feel the same about her or even see her on her birthday. She's not their grandchild. They should be kind to her though include her.

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 03:38

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 25/10/2024 21:49

He lacks basic decency and is mean, so yes that would be why he didn't know how to react.

Sorry you have had to put up with this OP. Your child getting cold treatment while her sibling gets treated differently will obviously have an impact, so yes, keep both of them away from this prick until such time, if ever, he can grasp how to be a decent human being.

Or he could have thought oh help I don't want to say the wrong thing here

wandawaves · 26/10/2024 04:41

Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 14:28

She’s just a small ND child who wants to be like the rest. Where’s the empathy gone??? This makes me so sad.

I'm with you OP, how heartless! How can anyone turn their backs on a little child just because of a technicality. How can they treat 2 kids so differently in front of each other.
And yes it is very sad that so many PP's think it's ok!!

Twobigbabies · 26/10/2024 05:05

Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 23:06

Thanks for the replies but I’m off now. It’s been an absolute let down and has reminded me how utterly shameful half the population is, many seem to be on here. I hope no one needs any support from any non blood related family in the future. I hope my eldest doesn’t grow up to replicate the heartlessness she is encountering.

I'm sorry you feel let down I'm also surprised by a lot of the comments on here. You sound like an incredibly strong person and so does your daughter I can see you're super proud of her which is lovely. These people sound awful and not worth your time at all. Ok so they aren't biologically related but this is a child fgs anyone with common decency would at least make the effort to be kind! I agree with your plan to just distance yourself as much as possible and surround your kids with people who love them. The great grqndparents sound lovely could you have a quiet word and see if they wouldn't mind your daughter calling them GPs or GGPs?

Also I'm getting narcissist vibes from at least one of the GPs and suspect if they treat your youngest differently from the other grandchildren they probably treat your partner differently from his sibling and always have done. It's a grim way to grow up. If he's amenable I might suggest some therapy for him or at least more space from them might do him a world of good.

Thommasina · 26/10/2024 05:14

This thread is the worst of Mumsnet.

The saddest thing is the absolute gaslighting (and yes, I'm using it correctly) of the OP, trying to make her believe that posters wouldn't feel exactly the same as she does about their dc and non biological grandparents. Because its obvious that any parent would feel upset about this. Shame on you.

MyHouseIsABusStop · 26/10/2024 06:50

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Oh really? Well that's interesting...

WhatNoRaisins · 26/10/2024 06:53

Thought I'd read this before

Startinganew32 · 26/10/2024 08:07

WhatNoRaisins · 26/10/2024 06:53

Thought I'd read this before

Yes it does actually sound familiar. Is this the one with the nice but passive DP/DH who the OP said pursued her a lot until she agreed to a relationship with him but his parents don’t like her because she has a past? I seem to recall he has two sisters, there’s lots of family events that they’re expected to attend. Yes OP has been given exactly the same advice before so no idea why she had to name change and ask the same again.

EdgarAllanCrow · 26/10/2024 08:30

Startinganew32 · 26/10/2024 08:07

Yes it does actually sound familiar. Is this the one with the nice but passive DP/DH who the OP said pursued her a lot until she agreed to a relationship with him but his parents don’t like her because she has a past? I seem to recall he has two sisters, there’s lots of family events that they’re expected to attend. Yes OP has been given exactly the same advice before so no idea why she had to name change and ask the same again.

DP is ND and has one brother. OP also doesn’t like him or his wife (or their ‘perfect’ kids) and resents that they’re closer to MIL, particularly the wife. There are countless threads about her in laws on the Relationships board even though there’s barely any contact with them. MIL went on hols when OP’s youngest was born, she wants to be close to in laws and have them treat oldest DC as their GC but they don’t want that, always something about Facebook. She’s given lots of advice which she roundly ignores and then starts a new thread some time later under a new name. Rinse and repeat.

She needs therapy, not mumsnet.

Startinganew32 · 26/10/2024 08:56

EdgarAllanCrow · 26/10/2024 08:30

DP is ND and has one brother. OP also doesn’t like him or his wife (or their ‘perfect’ kids) and resents that they’re closer to MIL, particularly the wife. There are countless threads about her in laws on the Relationships board even though there’s barely any contact with them. MIL went on hols when OP’s youngest was born, she wants to be close to in laws and have them treat oldest DC as their GC but they don’t want that, always something about Facebook. She’s given lots of advice which she roundly ignores and then starts a new thread some time later under a new name. Rinse and repeat.

She needs therapy, not mumsnet.

Oh yeah I remember now - it was a brother and she’s comparing to how the other SIL is treated better than her. Yeah she needs therapy.

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 08:58

Halloween24 · 25/10/2024 21:40

How hard is it to say you can call me what ever you like and feel comfortable with. What does it matter what she calls them, she’s a young autistic child for gods sake. I would think it would be a privilege if a young child thought that of you. You don’t need to act or do anything, it’s just a word.

There's a lot of hypocricy on Mumsnet OP. I've seen threads where the OP is having or has just had a baby and has said that she doesn't want her step-mother to be called grandma/nana/nanny. The majority of posters tell her how unkind that is and what harm will it do to refer to her stepmum as the grandmother of her child. People show more compassion for an adult woman than an autistic small child.

DurinsBane · 26/10/2024 09:07

Garlicnaan · 25/10/2024 14:31

Bit of a drip feed... So she has a lovely relationship with some grandparents figures, and she also gets gifts etc from her step grandparents so they do make some effort. She's not doing too badly.

Sadly grandparents often make more effort with their daughters children than their sons, is that the case here?

All but one of my GPs were dead when I was born and the other was in another country so only saw them very infrequently. I still had a decent childhood. Try not to get hung up on it and focus on the good relationships she DOES have.

I think the op means his as in her partner’s grandparents. A relationship with great GPs is different to one with GPs

DurinsBane · 26/10/2024 09:29

valueyourself · 25/10/2024 21:57

They aren't her grandparents or even her 'step grandparents' .

If you and your partner can't even commit sufficiently to marry each other to make their son an actual 'step father' (sorry separately owned homes is a shit excuse me- see a lawyer and get them ring fenced) then getting the arse with HIS parents about committing to a grandparent role is a bit of a bloody piss take !

Sort your own labels out first. Your partner is literally NOTHING legally to your child. He is NOT a step dad or her mothers husband (a legal entity) he is her mothers partner - which means nothing in law.

Sort yourselves and then perhaps his parents might think differently.

Daughter, not Son. Sounds like her BF is a dad to get eldest in all other ways apart from legally and biologically. Not ‘nothing’ as your comment says.

SnoopysHoose · 26/10/2024 10:31

The hypocrisy on MN amazes me, if it's a step mum she is expected to live the child as if it's her own but ppl of grandparent age/position; perfectly acceptable to exclude a little girl they've known since she was 3.
Personally I think it's nasty to exclude her, everyone I know the kids are all treated the same.

MyHouseIsABusStop · 26/10/2024 11:39

SnoopysHoose · 26/10/2024 10:31

The hypocrisy on MN amazes me, if it's a step mum she is expected to live the child as if it's her own but ppl of grandparent age/position; perfectly acceptable to exclude a little girl they've known since she was 3.
Personally I think it's nasty to exclude her, everyone I know the kids are all treated the same.

That's completely untrue, step mothers are regularly told that their step children are not their responsibility, they have 2 parents and stepmothers should not be the default parent when children are with their fathers etc etc. Many, many women here have been told how their partners are taking complete advantage by expecting them to play mother to their children when they are not theirs.

And in any case, step mothers choose to get into a relationship with a man who has children. They have actively chosen to put themselves in that position... 'Grandparents' in these situations have not had that choice or any input into the situations they find themselves in. They should not be obliged to take children on as their own grandchildren, purely because their child is dating their parent. That's crazy.

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