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Told i don't have the body type

188 replies

Tomanyflaws · 15/10/2024 11:13

Is it ever ok for a man in a relationship to comment on his female partners type of outfits by telling her to wear something that flatters because it's embrassing when everything's hanging i am a plus size ze lady size 16_18 5ft 7 33 he says i dress like im a size 8 something that i definitely am fully aware i ain't is it ok for him to say your fat rolls are hanging out and iv got a pouch so I need to cover up i said i don't want to wear big frumpy baggy clothes like old style granny prints this was in summer when i had denim shorts and a crop top on he's always said he doesn't mind my size but wants me to cover up if he's much in love with me why would he be embarrassed about my body that he wants to hide it under frumpy layers he is now an ex hes wev had long issues he told me it's over thank god but his he unreasonable or is it me??

OP posts:
MerryMarys · 16/10/2024 09:01

They find a 16-18 in crop top and hot pants much more appealing than a 10 in those clothes.

But many other people, including OP's partner, do not!

OhDearMuriel · 16/10/2024 09:09

CaptainBeanThief · 15/10/2024 11:27

I'm not trying to be awful/nasty/horrible when I say this but as a bigger lady myself I think I ought to say this.
It's not about wearing "baggy" or frumpy clothes It's about dressing well for our body shape. I would never go out in tight clothes with a crop top because I know I have fat rolls and id look stupid and awful and other people would be staring and calling me and if I did go out like that I'd expect my husband to pull me up on it because he wouldn't want other people name calling me for the way I was dressed*
I cringe when I see other people dressed in unsuitable clothing for their body size no matter how much people say " you can wear what you like"
Like I said I'm a big person myself but I have learned to find nice clothing that looks good on my body and that's not frumpy.
This isn't a personal attack by the way, I am just giving my view point.

Edit: I don't know why a lot of my post has gone in bold 😂

Edited

This 100%

User19876536484 · 16/10/2024 09:17

MerryMarys · 16/10/2024 08:51

I would WANT my partner to tell me if what I'm wearing looks crap!

I’m the same, but to some on MN it’s LTB territory.

ttcat37 · 16/10/2024 09:19

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 16/10/2024 08:59

The important part here is OPs DP didn’t think she looked good in it. The point is that he’s very entitled to think that, and she is entitled to think she looks great - but it doesn’t mean she does.

We’ll have to agree to disagree - OP asked for views and the overall consensus on this thread is that she likely doesn’t look half as good as she thinks she does. And I agree with that.

So the point is that OP’s partner shares your opinion. He can think what he wants but ultimately if he doesn’t find her attractive then that’s the issue, not the way she dresses. I’d argue that he isn’t entitled to tell a woman happy and comfortable in her outfit that she shouldn’t wear it just because he doesn’t like it.
Gen Z is thankfully a more open minded generation so hopefully the outdated opinions about dressing for size/ shape/ age will change.

MerryMarys · 16/10/2024 10:01

so hopefully the outdated opinions about dressing for size/ shape/ age will change.

Outdated?

There's nothing 'outdated' about finding a fat body squeezed into tight hot pants or a crop top unattractive.

lingalingalong · 16/10/2024 10:35

ToBeOrNotToBee · 15/10/2024 11:21

Dress how you like but understand that not everything suits every body.
And not everyone finds fat rolls, overhangs and bulges attractive.

Absolutely this.
There is a fine line between being confident and delusional.
Watch an episode of MAFS UK dinner party and that should explain it😁

ByTealShaker · 16/10/2024 10:38

YaWeeFurryBastard · 15/10/2024 12:35

Of course you should wear what you want, however you’ll probably look much better if you wear clothes that flatter your shape.

I must admit I’m often surprised by women who’ve clearly made a lot of effort wearing very unflattering clothes, think tight trousers/skirts that highlight a triangular bottom. I’m pregnant atm but when I’m not I certainly have a belly and chunky thighs, so stick to outfits that skim and flatter these areas and highlight the “better” aspects of my body like my waist.

Your partner is very rude, but I must admit I wouldn’t be thrilled if my husband continually wore unflattering clothes.

I pretty much agree with this.

MsNeis · 16/10/2024 10:39

MaidOfAle · 15/10/2024 11:40

A man telling you what you can and can't wear is a form of abuse. I don't mean "what you can wear" in the sense of "the event is black tie so you need a gown, not jeans" but in the sense of "I don't like you wearing X because it's too revealing / unflattering / etc".

I agree. This, and not style advise, is the point of this thread.
He sounds nasty, OP. Good riddance!

MrsSunshine2b · 16/10/2024 13:10

He definitely should have been more tactful but he was probably being truthful that he didn't think those clothes flatter your shape.

I used to be a size 6-8 in my 20s and now I'm a size 12 in my 30s, many of the styles that suited me before don't any more. I definitely wouldn't wear daisy dukes and a crop top any more, as I only think they look good on very slim, young, toned women. It's a style for teenagers and early 20s imo. I don't think I dress like a granny, I dress more sophisticated than I did because I am more grown-up and dress to be taken seriously.

If you genuinely feel that crop tops and daisy dukes are the best "look" for you, then you will need to find a partner who finds that look attractive, but I think most people think that very tight, revealing styles aren't a great look on most body shapes.

Tomanyflaws · 17/10/2024 07:42

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 16/10/2024 08:59

The important part here is OPs DP didn’t think she looked good in it. The point is that he’s very entitled to think that, and she is entitled to think she looks great - but it doesn’t mean she does.

We’ll have to agree to disagree - OP asked for views and the overall consensus on this thread is that she likely doesn’t look half as good as she thinks she does. And I agree with that.

I don't look good in them i just wear them because that's what i see woman ly age wear around here in summer crop tops bodysuits and shorts etc i hate to look the odd one out because I'm fat im losing weight hopefully I'll be more socially acceptable looking enough to wear what i want next summer.

OP posts:
TheBoldHelper · 17/10/2024 07:49

Tomanyflaws · 17/10/2024 07:42

I don't look good in them i just wear them because that's what i see woman ly age wear around here in summer crop tops bodysuits and shorts etc i hate to look the odd one out because I'm fat im losing weight hopefully I'll be more socially acceptable looking enough to wear what i want next summer.

Ach I feel rotten for you. It’s so hard isn’t it. I think it’s also about maturity and confidence though to be fair. Dressing in a way you don’t think looks good to try to follow fashion is never going to make you feel good about yourself.

it’s honestly not about your weight as such, it’s more dressing for our bodies, our size, you need to focus on what you look good in, not what you think others look good in. You can do this. There are outfits all of us can’t pull off. So we don’t wear them.

so for example a fitted t shirt would look fine and a pair of longer line shorts, or jeans, I’m sure you’ve seen everyone wearing these things. But honestly it is better to dress and look good, feel confident, than try to emulate other women who you wish to look like, if they are a totally different body shape to you.

Tomanyflaws · 17/10/2024 07:53

harrietm87 · 16/10/2024 07:10

OP you shouldn’t lose weight for him - do it for yourself and your kids.

Your relationship doesn’t sound great.

But also, it doesn’t sound like you are dressing for your shape/size/age if you are wearing crop tops and shorts. There is a middle ground between this look and frumpy/granny. I’m 37 and a size 10 and I would never wear this in a million years but I think I look nice and age appropriate in the clothes I wear, certainly not frumpy!

I think you need to separate out the issues a bit - are you happy in your relationship? Are you happy with your size? Does your style flatter the size you are right now?

I'm not happy in anything i hate myself the way i look my body is gross just wanting to feel sexy and fashionable without hiding every bit of skini don't want long skirts or long dresses or wrap tops or long tops nothing tent like i want to look sexy in ly clothes it's the reason I'm losing iv seen him looking at women thinner than me i want to be one of those types not a unattractive peice of lard I'm trying the weights coming of I've lost 1 stone 5 pounds i only need to lose another 2 to look less like a bag of shit..

OP posts:
Hididi11 · 17/10/2024 08:03

I'm going to be completely honest
I was a size 8 and since thyroid issues now a size 16
And you can't wear the same things in terms of flattery points.
Your body changes esp in your 30's
Your stomach is not an asset anymore
But other parts defo are.
Maybe try wearing something fitted at the chest and loose at the stomach ..it looks super flattering and you will turn heads.
Or skater dresses..wrap dresses
Look your best .. have confidence
And only you know your relationship but also know your worth!!!

saraclara · 17/10/2024 08:18

Tomanyflaws · 17/10/2024 07:42

I don't look good in them i just wear them because that's what i see woman ly age wear around here in summer crop tops bodysuits and shorts etc i hate to look the odd one out because I'm fat im losing weight hopefully I'll be more socially acceptable looking enough to wear what i want next summer.

So you know you don't look good in them, but dislike him saying so?

I actively wanted my late DH to let me know if something I wore or tried on, suited me. And I'd tell him if an outfit didn't work for him.

If this was a case of you thinking you looked stunning, and him putting you down offensively, this would be a different situation. But you know he's right. Wearing what works for people with entirely different bodies, isn't 'fitting in'.
If wearing a crop top means that you have rolls of fat hanging out, your not fitting in, you're standing out, and opening yourself up to unpleasant comments.

It's very possible to look sexy and attractive at a size 18, but daisy dukes and a crop top isn't going to do it.

saraclara · 17/10/2024 08:25

I just googled 'flattering outfit size 18 young woman' and got loads of YouTube videos in the results, that were styling people like you.
Maybe have a look at those for non-frumpy ideas?

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 17/10/2024 08:30

In some hotter countries, for everyday life women wear quite skimpy clothes. Some are very curvy. Ethnicity and class may factor into whether people in those countries judge those women. I think it looks fine and as summers get hotter we can learn from places like that how to dress and manage heat. (It's also possible to wear light floaty summer clothes that cover a lot, of course, but that should be personal choice.)

HotSource · 17/10/2024 08:32

‘Sexy’ isn’t one look, and what is sexy on one person is not on another.

Sexy comes in many looks.

From your update It doesn’t sound as if you feel happy with yourself. You are doing fantastically well with the weightloss you are embarked on, but alongside that find ways to look at your view of your self worth and self value. Measuring yourself against people who wear crop tops as the ultimate sign of ‘sexy’ might not help.

SallyWD · 17/10/2024 08:41

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 17/10/2024 08:30

In some hotter countries, for everyday life women wear quite skimpy clothes. Some are very curvy. Ethnicity and class may factor into whether people in those countries judge those women. I think it looks fine and as summers get hotter we can learn from places like that how to dress and manage heat. (It's also possible to wear light floaty summer clothes that cover a lot, of course, but that should be personal choice.)

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There are also a lot of hot countries where people cover up. They wear very loose, thin cotton clothes. I do this. I actually find it cooler to have a thin, light layer of material than to have sun burning my bare flesh. My in-laws live in southern Europe and always ask why British people expose so much flesh. They wear long sleeves in the sun.

BunnyLake · 17/10/2024 09:35

You don’t have to show skin or flash flesh to look sexy. Wearing what suits you is far more attractive than wearing something unflattering.

TwistedWonder · 17/10/2024 10:07

BunnyLake · 17/10/2024 09:35

You don’t have to show skin or flash flesh to look sexy. Wearing what suits you is far more attractive than wearing something unflattering.

Agree. I don’t actually think flashing a lot of skin is particularly sexy and less is more.

Wearing well fitting clothes that suit you with confidence and a little hint of what’s underneath is far far sexier imo

MerryMarys · 17/10/2024 13:50

You don’t have to show skin or flash flesh to look sexy.

On the contrary, wearing loose fitting clothes that don't reveal much skin is far sexier imo, regardless of body shape or size. Much classier too!

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 17/10/2024 14:49

TwistedWonder · 17/10/2024 10:07

Agree. I don’t actually think flashing a lot of skin is particularly sexy and less is more.

Wearing well fitting clothes that suit you with confidence and a little hint of what’s underneath is far far sexier imo

Yes, in your opinion. But I'm thinking of the Americas and Caribbean. (And some people in Europe.) And not about sexiness but about lack of shame in personal choice. And discriminatory reasons for judging those free women. The OP is now saying she feels gross and comparing herself to a bag of sh*t. That's not OK! She was comfortable and the eyes of love will find her beautiful.

outforawalkbiatch · 17/10/2024 15:19

MerryMarys · 16/10/2024 10:01

so hopefully the outdated opinions about dressing for size/ shape/ age will change.

Outdated?

There's nothing 'outdated' about finding a fat body squeezed into tight hot pants or a crop top unattractive.

Why would someone be squeezed into it? I'm fat but I'm capable of buying a crop top or shorts in my size
People always seem to imply we are stuffing ourselves into things

SallyWD · 17/10/2024 15:22

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 17/10/2024 14:49

Yes, in your opinion. But I'm thinking of the Americas and Caribbean. (And some people in Europe.) And not about sexiness but about lack of shame in personal choice. And discriminatory reasons for judging those free women. The OP is now saying she feels gross and comparing herself to a bag of sh*t. That's not OK! She was comfortable and the eyes of love will find her beautiful.

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Firstly, you think people from these countries aren't shamed for being overweight? In my experience of knowing people from the Carribean, South America, and various countries in Europe and Asia is that they absolutely are shamed, way more than women in the UK. I have a south American friend and whenever she goes home there's a chorus of disapproval about her weight and how she looks like a "fat pig", according to her family. For context, she's about a size 12. And I have friends from Portugal, Spain, Greece and when they go home they get comments like "Eurgh, you're getting so white and fat, like British women".
Secondly, I'm not sure OP was actually that comfortable in those clothes. Her later posts say that she was only wearing them because that's what her friends of the same age wore. She saw more modest clothing as tentlike and unsexy but it seems she didn't actually like how she looked in the crop tops and shorts.

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 17/10/2024 15:26

SallyWD · 17/10/2024 15:22

Firstly, you think people from these countries aren't shamed for being overweight? In my experience of knowing people from the Carribean, South America, and various countries in Europe and Asia is that they absolutely are shamed, way more than women in the UK. I have a south American friend and whenever she goes home there's a chorus of disapproval about her weight and how she looks like a "fat pig", according to her family. For context, she's about a size 12. And I have friends from Portugal, Spain, Greece and when they go home they get comments like "Eurgh, you're getting so white and fat, like British women".
Secondly, I'm not sure OP was actually that comfortable in those clothes. Her later posts say that she was only wearing them because that's what her friends of the same age wore. She saw more modest clothing as tentlike and unsexy but it seems she didn't actually like how she looked in the crop tops and shorts.

They are shamed along racist and classist lines. But the people doing the shaming , who often aspire to being light skin/middle class aren't taken seriously except maybe by their families and the privileged few. Who are not the majority. I find the use of the words classy and modest on this thread and elsewhere abhorrent as they go back to colonial norms.

See also the joy in varied body type in Notting Hill Carnival. 'Thick' bodies rock.