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Anyone watching married at first sight? Eve showing classic signs of narcissism/abuse

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Waitforit7 · 30/09/2024 21:19

What are your opinions? I’m seeing a classic love bomber, even down to the smile and way she holds herself, she seemed determined to almost immediately engage in push pull, and seems to be eroding slowly Charlie’s sense of self and self esteem. Charlie is mildly histrionic and attaches herself very quickly, but it seems her attachment remains, eve is the typical player, goes all in, and then once she’s hooked someone starts to withdraw, stonewall, punish at any sign of emotion, and talk a lot about essentially how dramatic the other person is and how she has to walk on eggshells? Isn’t it funny that the people who say “I just hate drama” are the ones who tend to constantly create it? Eve has only stopped the love bombing because Charlie was hooked so fast and easily, they are incredibly bad pairing. Eve seems to enjoy seeing how quickly she can get Charlie emotional and seems to always be slyly pushing buttons. She creates situation after situation but puts it all down to Charlie’s emotions and is already smear campaigning her as an angry person who shouts and is abusive. She’s accused her of shouting when she’s not shouting she’s just upset, and seems to get off as a classic narc does when Charlie emotionally explodes while playing herself off a cool, mature, and drama free. Don’t get me wrong, Charlie seems insecure and too invested too quickly but that’s exactly what a narcissist gets off on. I can on one hand understand the pressure of the experiment, but eve acted as though she’d found her soulmate and now she is in the devalue/ semi discard/ gaslighting stage/ smear campaigning to others subtly, what do you guys think?

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Apotofgold · 02/10/2024 23:27

Waitforit7 · 02/10/2024 23:11

Ha! Looks like we are on the same page 🤣 predictable narcs

💯 😂😂

I’m glad Charlie saw the light

Yeah I found it really empowering! It was sad seeing her say sorry over and over again, so it was really positive to see her walk away with her head held high and she said it so joyfully and decisively too!

I agree about Richelle being used to more toxic men. She not only looks young but seems really young - or rather immature - in her mindset.

At the same time I don’t know the full extent of it with Orson, but I will say men who don’t speak up and say how they feel can be problematic, because usually eventually they will let everything come out at the same time after keeping it in for so long and totally blindside you.

It’s funny there was so much focus on Alex being awful before MAFS even started - and he is - but I think Eve outshined him in that area (so far) which is a bit of a twist.

Nathan (think that’s his name?) was so funny when his wife was asking him questions about the dinner party drama
and he didn’t have a clue. He really does live in his own world.

Apotofgold · 02/10/2024 23:38

Well my main narc dating story is from an experience in my 20s.The narc tried to pull back from me and act as if he wasn’t sure about our future after I stood up to him when he publicly embarrassed me. While he was trying to punish me by drawing back, I cut him off completely super quick. Blocked him on everything and avoided as many social events as I could that he was at. Told mutual friends not to disclose anything about my life to him.
For a whole year when I’d see him out in the city I lived in I’d just blank him. It drove him up the wall.

I don’t live near him anymore, but just a few years ago,he tried to get my number off a family member and he’s tried to ask about me before that through friends who still live there. Over a decade later and he is married with kids but still doesn’t get it lol. Needless to say he didn’t get my number.

Here’s to taking narcs by surprise 🥂

Camacamillia · 02/10/2024 23:40

I literally went online to see if anybody else felt that Eva was a massive narcissist. I've thought it for a few episodes now, but especially after that last commitment ceremony where they both decided to leave, thank god. She was going to mentally destroy Charlie had they remained on the show with all of her gaslighting , and two faced personality . She spent the whole show creating a smear campaign against Charlie . Yes, Charlie clearly has attachment issues and demonstrates a very codependent personality , but that's what a narcissist loves , because they can control you and torture you for longer without ever really showing you any love. They show you just enough love to keep you with them, and toy with your emotional until they've taken everything from you.

Angelina7 · 02/10/2024 23:46

Waitforit7 · 02/10/2024 23:08

Wow I didn’t actually see that coming. I think eve wrote leave to ramp up the emotional abuse personally, I don’t think I she thought for a second Charlie would leave and it’s a great way to put her on trial for another week and make her really work for it. I’m glad Charlie saw the light. Yes you are correct, it was a perfect example of a narc information gathering, in fact it was the shortest and most sped up example of narc behaviour I’ve seen on tv, she displayed a lot of the traits, and if it had continued no doubt her “lack of trust” because narcs always use that to make someone work harder, would have manifested into false accusations about all sorts, and full on fights. Charlie really isn’t into conflict, and that’s evident by the way she almost has a panic attack every time eve falsely accuses her, or shuts her down, good luck to Charlie, I hope she finds happiness.

from eve we saw:

lying
gaslighting
manipulation
emotional and sexual witholding
abandonment
control
creating drama
lack of accountability
false promises and false apologies
destruction of Charlie’s self esteem- devaluation
making Charlie work to please her
engaging flying monkeys and smear campaigning her
goading (you’re shouting/ you’re lying)
using the past against her
treating her as untrustworthy without cause
zero effort

and more, anyone that still disagrees eve is majorly personality disordered and a bad bet in a relationship, all I can say is- good luck in your future relationships

Touche

Waitforit7 · 02/10/2024 23:51

Hotmess101 · 02/10/2024 23:20

And I was about to write the exact same 😂 what a coup de grace from Charlie there 🧑🏻‍🍳😘👌 I did the same to one of my narcs re rug pulling at the 11th hour and amidst the heartbreak it gave me great pleasure to think of his astonishment at the worm turning! Only took me 20 years of dating but I finally worked the bastards out 🙌

Very glad you did! It does take time to see patterns, and finding out stuff they were up to all along behind your back, for you to understand these individuals are wired very differently and they literally don’t give a shit about you apart from what you can do for them. They are very damaged and broken, and the only way someone can “win” with them, is to run

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Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 00:02

Apotofgold · 02/10/2024 23:27

💯 😂😂

I’m glad Charlie saw the light

Yeah I found it really empowering! It was sad seeing her say sorry over and over again, so it was really positive to see her walk away with her head held high and she said it so joyfully and decisively too!

I agree about Richelle being used to more toxic men. She not only looks young but seems really young - or rather immature - in her mindset.

At the same time I don’t know the full extent of it with Orson, but I will say men who don’t speak up and say how they feel can be problematic, because usually eventually they will let everything come out at the same time after keeping it in for so long and totally blindside you.

It’s funny there was so much focus on Alex being awful before MAFS even started - and he is - but I think Eve outshined him in that area (so far) which is a bit of a twist.

Nathan (think that’s his name?) was so funny when his wife was asking him questions about the dinner party drama
and he didn’t have a clue. He really does live in his own world.

You see, I think orson is a gentleman, and another that wears his heart on his sleeve, and I hope Richel values that, as that is strength in a man, and I feel she sees strength as something a little more toxic, because she used to it. She’s not used to a man talking about feelings it seems, and to get to know each other there are things that are talked about vulnerably. However, he doesn’t strike me as the type who wouldn’t say how he feels if he is actually annoyed by something. For example at the wedding he spoke strongly to her that she was being too intense with the questioning. So far I really like the guy and feel he’s there for the right reasons, I’m not sure how good a match they are emotionally, but time will tell. It broke my heart when she told him to stop telling her his sob stories. Hopefully that’s not a pattern that will stop him from feeling emotionally close to her. Nathan is hilarious, yes he’s in his own world, but seems like a nice guy

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Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 00:04

Apotofgold · 02/10/2024 23:38

Well my main narc dating story is from an experience in my 20s.The narc tried to pull back from me and act as if he wasn’t sure about our future after I stood up to him when he publicly embarrassed me. While he was trying to punish me by drawing back, I cut him off completely super quick. Blocked him on everything and avoided as many social events as I could that he was at. Told mutual friends not to disclose anything about my life to him.
For a whole year when I’d see him out in the city I lived in I’d just blank him. It drove him up the wall.

I don’t live near him anymore, but just a few years ago,he tried to get my number off a family member and he’s tried to ask about me before that through friends who still live there. Over a decade later and he is married with kids but still doesn’t get it lol. Needless to say he didn’t get my number.

Here’s to taking narcs by surprise 🥂

❤️ I hope you find all the happiness

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Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 00:07

Camacamillia · 02/10/2024 23:40

I literally went online to see if anybody else felt that Eva was a massive narcissist. I've thought it for a few episodes now, but especially after that last commitment ceremony where they both decided to leave, thank god. She was going to mentally destroy Charlie had they remained on the show with all of her gaslighting , and two faced personality . She spent the whole show creating a smear campaign against Charlie . Yes, Charlie clearly has attachment issues and demonstrates a very codependent personality , but that's what a narcissist loves , because they can control you and torture you for longer without ever really showing you any love. They show you just enough love to keep you with them, and toy with your emotional until they've taken everything from you.

100% but when they do show the love it’s a whole bloody performance with bells and whistles isn’t it, nobody does extremes better than the narc

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Apotofgold · 03/10/2024 00:12

Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 00:04

❤️ I hope you find all the happiness

Yes you’re right. I don’t think Richelle has the healthiest idea when it comes to relationship and what she believes to be a strong man! It’s sad if she is still drawn to toxic masculinity and men whose only expression of emotion is anger or aggression! I don’t think anything really bad or dramatic will happen with the two of them, but I don’t see there’s a future for them.

Anyway I wanted to say thank you for starting this thread, OP and being so quick to identify what Eve was doing! Been so interesting listening to yours and everyone’s insights and experiences. I thought I knew a lot but I’ve learned a lot more.

I’m off abroad for 3 weeks on Friday, and tomorrow will be spent frantically packing no doubt. So I probably won’t be watching MAFSUK (not even sure if the ch4 app will be available to watch in the country I’ll be in) while I’m away, so my posts will end here unless the thread is still going when I’m back and have caught up with the series 😆

❤️ I hope you find all the happiness

Aw thank you SO much! You too 💜

Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 00:22

Apotofgold · 03/10/2024 00:12

Yes you’re right. I don’t think Richelle has the healthiest idea when it comes to relationship and what she believes to be a strong man! It’s sad if she is still drawn to toxic masculinity and men whose only expression of emotion is anger or aggression! I don’t think anything really bad or dramatic will happen with the two of them, but I don’t see there’s a future for them.

Anyway I wanted to say thank you for starting this thread, OP and being so quick to identify what Eve was doing! Been so interesting listening to yours and everyone’s insights and experiences. I thought I knew a lot but I’ve learned a lot more.

I’m off abroad for 3 weeks on Friday, and tomorrow will be spent frantically packing no doubt. So I probably won’t be watching MAFSUK (not even sure if the ch4 app will be available to watch in the country I’ll be in) while I’m away, so my posts will end here unless the thread is still going when I’m back and have caught up with the series 😆

❤️ I hope you find all the happiness

Aw thank you SO much! You too 💜

Edited

Have a lovely holiday! It was helpful for me also and I really enjoyed everyone insights. I was with someone with all the traits to an intense level and it really did a number on me for three years. It ended two years ago and I haven’t even glanced at another man since, so seeing all the traits has helped me to realise now that I really can see it in someone and here’s hoping I’ll never meet someone like that again! Take care X

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BenditlikeBridget · 03/10/2024 00:41

I also found some validation/healing in how quickly I spotted Eve’s abusive tendencies… like many of us here, i’ve learned the hard way but it’s good to have had those instincts validated. We move on, older, wiser, stronger.

kkloo · 03/10/2024 01:27

Eves behaviour was extremely abusive, whether it was intentional or as a result of trauma, it doesn't really matter because the effect on the other person is the same.
I would imagine that Charlie has been gaslighted/stonewalled in the past which is why she instantly had such a strong reaction to it from Eve.

Begsthequestion · 03/10/2024 10:52

Agree with all your comments OP. It's like watching a past relationship of mine play out in quick time on TV. Took me three years and a lot of learning and self work to get over that one.

Chilling to see it happen on screen but I guess it helps wider society understand these manipulative dynamics and how to avoid them, so there is some benefit. I hope Charlie can get the support she needs now.

MrsKeats · 03/10/2024 10:57

Eve is so awful I had to turn off as the gaslighting reminded me of an ex.
All the 'don't shout at me' when Charlie was not shouting. Genuinely chilling.

Seriestwo · 03/10/2024 11:54

What did Eve say to Charlie at the end? Charlie said something to the group like “I’m sorry you weren’t able to get to know me because someone told you lies about me”, meaning Eve misrepresented her.

Eve interjected something like “stay classy”, trying to get Charlie to stop talking?

Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 13:13

Seriestwo · 03/10/2024 11:54

What did Eve say to Charlie at the end? Charlie said something to the group like “I’m sorry you weren’t able to get to know me because someone told you lies about me”, meaning Eve misrepresented her.

Eve interjected something like “stay classy”, trying to get Charlie to stop talking?

Didn’t catch that, so I’m rewatching the couch interview now. Going to analyse it as a go along.

Eve starts with her soft victim voice which we never hear when it’s just her and Charlie alone. She begins by saying she didn’t do the task as it wouldn’t be genuine and her walls are up so high. She says if she had been vulnerable and Charlie threw it back in her face it would have absolutely destroyed her. This is classic projection, Charlie hasn’t thrown a single thing back in her face, Charlie was eager for connection, vulnerability and discussions. The only one doing any throwing in the face is eve, every time Charlie has been vulnerable she has hurt her with abandonment, including after her very vulnerable letter, she made it all about her and barely commented on the letter. She therefore threw the letter back in her face. She also throws an incident from the honeymoon in her face on a daily basis, reinforcing that it was all Charlie’s fault for being emotional and not due to any wrongdoing on eves part with her cruel rejecting behaviour. Huge projection, but maybe eve has unhealed trauma (as most narcissists do, as they don’t process relationships, or do what would heal them, or have accountability, they just move on). No point eve going on an intense experiment like this if she can’t even write a basic letter.

Then it moves on to Charlie’s turn to talk as she explains she was head messed thinking they were united but eve was discussing her negatively behind her back.

Then eve moves on to be the victim confiding in her girls about the “abuse” she is suffering. Says she is “trying”. This is a classic narc line when they are doing f all but creating drama. Once again says Charlie throws stuff back in her face every time she “tries”, this is an outright lie. She becomes the victim saying Charlie just hurts her more

. Charlie the rational person that she is could have laid it all bare for everyone at that point but she didn’t, she took accountability for anything she may have done but said she really doesn’t see what more she could do. Then Charlie kindly discusses how the hot and cold lovebombing and the detachment has affected her.

Immediately, eve perceives some threat to her ego, and that she is going to be held accountable for bad behaviour, so she launches into her honeymoon story again, how traumatised she was when Charlie’s essentially emotionally reacted to HER abandonment and switching off. Is this woman even for real? Immediately her voice goes back to how it is when it’s just her an Charlie, the mask is beginning to slip, she has to remind her victim that she is the one to blame for everything “Charlie you know what happened that night, a lot happened” immediately Charlie is apologising… so eve doubles down “what did you do last night, what did you do last night” eve at this point is desperate to have the experts and cast validate her but if you pause the frames there is genuine fear on eves face of the truth coming to light.

This is where it turns around, Charlie says “what did you do last night” and then calls her out to the group about her snooping. Eve Cooly denies it, playing Charlie off as a paranoid liar. “Stop telling lies Charlie, stop telling lies” total gaslighting.

Then here comes the classic narcissistic line from Eve:

”you’ve got your reality and I’ve got mine Charlie, and it’s not true”

gaslighting at its ultimate finest!! Essentially- “I have changed the narrative Charlie, as I always will, my reality is the way this relationship will play out, even if it’s not the truth. I will never be accountable because I will never admit to reality but construct an entire narrative where you are the abuser, the liar, and the mentally unstable one”

Charlie breaks down emotionally as many would with that carefully constructed mind f- ing, and then eve gets called out “eve you’ve lied on the couch today” cue a look of fearful defeat from eve. In normal circumstances that wouldn’t be called out and the narc would be well on the way to making everyone believe their partner has a screw lose and is an abuser, because she’s such a cool and calm liar.

Charlie expresses how much she likes eve but all the empty promises eve has made, eve knows she’s been called out so she’s being super cautious now with her abusiveness, cue the fake voice break/ fake beginning of tears that never manifest as she once again tries to postion charlie being a wacko from a different angle, “I’m so sorry, I really want to try but alarm bells go off in my head, I am trying I am trying” the only alarm bells anyone should be hearing at this point is when eve walks by.

experts quite rightly state Charlie’s character, someone who would walk through fire for someone, and is accountable for wrongdoing, cue eve “I just don’t trust her”. Then eve is gently called out for being a two faced bitch, telling Charlie she wants to work it out and saying different things behind her back to the group. Then eve appeals to the group, who quite frankly are all being too kind to her at this point.

Charlie finally acknowledges she has seen through eves bullshit “you know exactly where you stand with me eve” when she says “just give me a chance” eve looks down and does the millisecond narc smirk, at this point she believes Charlie has definitely written stay where she may have been doubting it since the couch conversation began.

Eve loves this moment where she states she’s chosen to leave and builds up with an apology to make the crash harder (as she thinks it will break Charlie that she’s leaving so her intro is almost implying she’s staying to sort it out)

but….then Charlie calls her out for her bad behaviours and states all that Charlie has done to make it work. Eve looks quite gutted by her leaving. Eve said “keep your head held up high Charlie”- not “stay classy”, I’m not sure what she meant by that, as it’s certainly not what eve was helping her to do while they were in the relationship! Seems like most narcs, she wanted a fearful, pleasing partner who felt ashamed of themself and lucky to have her. If she is like most narcs she will be texting her after this to try to get in her head.

over all, narcs are narcs in every interaction. Eve has her reality and false narrative and she’s sticking to it. Same way all narcs do, when they are falsely accusing you of all sorts with no basis, rewriting things that happened between you so they are the victim etc. God help anyone who gets involved with this woman, as she is not the type to truly self reflect, just to move on and exhibit the same behaviours with someone else.

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TwistedWonder · 03/10/2024 13:18

Seriestwo · 03/10/2024 11:54

What did Eve say to Charlie at the end? Charlie said something to the group like “I’m sorry you weren’t able to get to know me because someone told you lies about me”, meaning Eve misrepresented her.

Eve interjected something like “stay classy”, trying to get Charlie to stop talking?

I took that as a dig at Polly as well who called her a bully and was happy to stir up drama with the group based purely on Eves words.

Polly was definitely a flying monkey running around gossiping with glee then has the cheek to comfort Charlie at the end. I couldn’t have bitten my tongue

Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 13:34

TwistedWonder · 03/10/2024 13:18

I took that as a dig at Polly as well who called her a bully and was happy to stir up drama with the group based purely on Eves words.

Polly was definitely a flying monkey running around gossiping with glee then has the cheek to comfort Charlie at the end. I couldn’t have bitten my tongue

Charlie exhibited extreme self control and classy behaviour with the group throughout. Despite being maligned and ganged up on, and even encouraged to say how things really were, she kept things close to her chest and was loyal to eve until she was ready to walk away. I love this girl and I hope she find extreme happiness with someone who has emotional maturity and isn’t personality disordered. We all have our flaws and weaknesses, but narcissists utterly destroy people, and being gaslit, falsely accused, made to feel crazy, emotionally abused and abandoned is so incredibly traumatic that it has led people to suicide or developing ptsd. I couldn’t stop crying through my relationship and for about a year after. I couldn’t believe as a strong and Independent person that I had let my walls down so much for someone finally after a decade; and had my mind abused to the extreme. So if I see those traits I will always speak out for someone who has suffered in that way, because the worst part of it is the feeling of isolation, and that what you’re going through would not be understood by others

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beachcomber70 · 03/10/2024 16:38

OP I've observed everything you have and followed this thread with interest and want to thank you for starting it. You have been so eloquent and knowledgeable and picked up every nuance from Eve, as I was doing and feeling horrified.

I'm healing from long term [covert] narcissistic abuse [female/female] since I walked away from it. I've read so much about it since but it was a long time before I could work out what the problems were and the personality I was dealing with although always knew I was dealing with someone very different/unstable [to say the least]. I'm ok, over the worst, but identify with you saying people just don't understand until they've experienced it [god forbid] and I have felt so very isolated and struggled on my own. Getting better but it's a long journey, alone with it all.

I brought up the subject of Eve and Charlie on another thread as I have been horrified by Eve's thoroughly manipulative behaviours and recognise so much of it. I shudder at memories that resurfaced for me. Eve and Charlie's situation showed a whole toxic relationship squashed into a couple of weeks and how one person masquerading as a loving partner can destroy a genuine person's peace and sanity...drip by drip. And not care. At all.

I hope viewers have taken note and seen these tactics and behaviours played out, have seen the damage and avoid these damaged and damaging individuals. If something feels 'off' and wrong, bothers you, makes you question yourself, diminishes you, just run. Well done Charlie.

Camacamillia · 03/10/2024 18:50

Yeah, I could only really see it beforehand because my sister was unfortunately married to a horrible narcissist who was honestly the best at charming everybody. He had us all fooled for a good while. He used very similar tactics. I fully agree with you, Eva truly thought she'd be the only one writing 'Leave' and then Charlie would have to grovel and promise that they could work on it if she agreed to stay another week. Then Eve would switch on the waterworks and put her humble face on , agreeing from the goodness of her compassionate heart to give Charlie another week. Thankfully, Charlie saw the light, gained some strength, fighting her codependent attachment impulses and said ✨ Leave ✨🤌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 20:29

beachcomber70 · 03/10/2024 16:38

OP I've observed everything you have and followed this thread with interest and want to thank you for starting it. You have been so eloquent and knowledgeable and picked up every nuance from Eve, as I was doing and feeling horrified.

I'm healing from long term [covert] narcissistic abuse [female/female] since I walked away from it. I've read so much about it since but it was a long time before I could work out what the problems were and the personality I was dealing with although always knew I was dealing with someone very different/unstable [to say the least]. I'm ok, over the worst, but identify with you saying people just don't understand until they've experienced it [god forbid] and I have felt so very isolated and struggled on my own. Getting better but it's a long journey, alone with it all.

I brought up the subject of Eve and Charlie on another thread as I have been horrified by Eve's thoroughly manipulative behaviours and recognise so much of it. I shudder at memories that resurfaced for me. Eve and Charlie's situation showed a whole toxic relationship squashed into a couple of weeks and how one person masquerading as a loving partner can destroy a genuine person's peace and sanity...drip by drip. And not care. At all.

I hope viewers have taken note and seen these tactics and behaviours played out, have seen the damage and avoid these damaged and damaging individuals. If something feels 'off' and wrong, bothers you, makes you question yourself, diminishes you, just run. Well done Charlie.

I’m glad it helped. It has helped me also, many have gone through this, but as you say, until you have, you won’t understand, and neither will you think you are ever someone who could fall for it. I went through all the head messing. Very intense love bombing/ soulmate stuff. I’d never loved or fancied anyone the way I did with him, and I had only had two prior sexual/ romantic relationships because love is serious to me. He attacked my character painting me as the opposite of who I am once he’s firmly got his feet under the table, gaslit me to infinity, used my emotions against me, constantly abandoned me, accused me of being a liar, lied to me, cheated on me, triangulated me with others, tried to make out I was mental, and would send me into emotional tailspin and tell me I exhausted him. His life was drama, I was a very passive person before him. I was patient constantly with him but eventually he knew the trigger words and I’d break down. For me as a person of integrity he knew false accusations would break me. It ended up so awful I can’t even begin to explain it. I actually knew him for years and felt totally safe getting into a relationship with him. He pursued me and claimed to love me and I fell deeply for him. It really helps that others understand the pain of this kind of relationship, and it helps to see how it looks from the outside when we see a situation like eve and Charlie. Having a relationship with a narcissist is soulless and you never know how much of it was real, and how much of it was just a false front. I think for me, I started to realise he got a genuine kick out of my distress and when he found something that worked he was consistent in repeating it. When he’d pushed too far the lovebombing would start again in earnest. He was a massive cheat and that all came out, and I blocked him on everything, like Charlie I had done absolutely everything to show my love and loyalty for him, he made me cry so much about a year in and I shouted at him and he never ever let me forget it, despite the vile disgusting ways he would speak to me on the regular. Just sharing as others have shared. Spotting the signs is the first step to freedom and the knowledge that you would see those things in someone in the future, hopefully!

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Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 21:52

I’ve seen 5 minutes of Lacey’s mum and I need some time out 🤣

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comedycentral · 03/10/2024 22:12

Oh my goodness - Lacey's Mum was trying to trap him!

Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 22:25

comedycentral · 03/10/2024 22:12

Oh my goodness - Lacey's Mum was trying to trap him!

God she’s a nightmare, she has no filter and she’s so rude.

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Waitforit7 · 03/10/2024 22:25

Luke is seriously creeping me out

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