Anyone watching married at first sight? Eve showing classic signs of narcissism/abuse

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What are your opinions? I’m seeing a classic love bomber, even down to the smile and way she holds herself, she seemed determined to almost immediately engage in push pull, and seems to be eroding slowly Charlie’s sense of self and self esteem. Charlie is mildly histrionic and attaches herself very quickly, but it seems her attachment remains, eve is the typical player, goes all in, and then once she’s hooked someone starts to withdraw, stonewall, punish at any sign of emotion, and talk a lot about essentially how dramatic the other person is and how she has to walk on eggshells? Isn’t it funny that the people who say “I just hate drama” are the ones who tend to constantly create it? Eve has only stopped the love bombing because Charlie was hooked so fast and easily, they are incredibly bad pairing. Eve seems to enjoy seeing how quickly she can get Charlie emotional and seems to always be slyly pushing buttons. She creates situation after situation but puts it all down to Charlie’s emotions and is already smear campaigning her as an angry person who shouts and is abusive. She’s accused her of shouting when she’s not shouting she’s just upset, and seems to get off as a classic narc does when Charlie emotionally explodes while playing herself off a cool, mature, and drama free. Don’t get me wrong, Charlie seems insecure and too invested too quickly but that’s exactly what a narcissist gets off on. I can on one hand understand the pressure of the experiment, but eve acted as though she’d found her soulmate and now she is in the devalue/ semi discard/ gaslighting stage/ smear campaigning to others subtly, what do you guys think?

I can’t bear her. She constantly talks over him, never lets him finish his sentence and seems to think what are has to say is so much more important than his opinions.

Got to be honest I’ve not got high hopes for many of them this year .

He’s got 5 now! 🤣

I agree, incredibly volatile and could start a fight with a paper bag. All that goading during the drawing task “You’ve got quite a small head haven’t you”, “what’s that a 4 pack or a six pack, I think a 4 pack”, “I’m drawing you how I’d like you to actually look because you’re kind of meh”, awful! I know some people have this dynamic of put downs and nastiness and call it “banter”, but I find it grim, clearly what she’s used to, but what’s the point apart from to deflate your partner and make them feel not good enough. I think she’s too volatile and too chavvy for him, and it just looks like a total mismatch. Still convinced that the experts think opposites work out, and they like to give people surprises, things they don’t actually want, because experts either think they know best and that it will work out, or because it’s all drama for tv disguised as science. Surely with a less than 20% success rate with matches they should by now have revised their way of doing things? Seems the couples who actually stay together are the ones who don’t have a load of mismatched values/ lifestyle- but are very similar, and work together in harmony- surprise surprise

God Hannah is just awful. Imagine if a guy had flipped because the wife wanted to spend the night alone? She's completely toxic too by the looks of it. It's really not hard to see why most of these people have struggled to find lasting relationships.

Yeah she was striving to get the upper hand in the relationship and have him fawning all over her, by degrading him and making him believe he’s not good enough after initially laying on the attraction stuff thick. It backfired, and I can’t say I didn’t enjoy seeing her taken down a peg or two

Yuk….Richel used the honesty box to mentally abuse orson, to state he isn’t a man of integrity and isn’t a leader, both things having no basis in reality. Richel needs mental help, but the delight on her face as she expressed those things makes me see that this is likely a character issue and that she enjoys degrading someone she’s in a relationship with. I feel so bad for orson, he comes across as a decent man, and they could have paired him with any number of women who would have given him a proper chance. Richel reminds me of my ex, she lives in her own false reality. False accusations are to her reality. She’s a terrible judge of character and she should just leave the experiment. She is abusive. When she speaks there is a snide and gleeful tone to her voice. She is either sociopathic or narcissistic. Major red flag when someone has zero empathy over the feelings someone has been left with with being cheated on also. Someone can remember the pain without still having feelings for the ex….she seems the type who would cheat herself and then tell someone to get over it, or minimise it. Don’t like her at all, I can see why nothing has worked out for her previously

Oh Girls! I've come to this a week late as I didn't realise there was a new series.I
I'm feeling so sad right now as so many of us have been through the mill at the mercy of Narcissistic abuse!
The term is not over used, its not used enough! I wish years ago( I'm now 56 and coming to the end of my 4 th Narcissistic relationship) I knew then what it's taken me years to learn.
I'm not sad for me, I'm so aware of this now, that 7 years ago when I got the first red flags( after the love bombing) I made the conscious decision to stay. I kept my own house, social and family life.
This one's covert, I'm not even sure he knows he's a Narcissist, until I tell him, then of course he'll throw a couple of breadcrumbs.
I'm sad because I'm an Empath( of course) and I feel bad for everyone else. It's too common, it's Shit!
There are so many brave people on here, and so many again who dare not speak.
All I can say to those who do not recognise that Eve was a raging Narc is this, You must of had the good fortune to not have experienced this type of abuse.
To those who have, I'm so so sorry for you. Be strong, be brave, tell EVERYONE what's happening if you can, if you're locked in, controlled, put a sheet up at your window screaming for HELP. Just get out of you can. Please don't wait 56 years after your Narcissistic father abused you, ( as his mother him) and every ( decent Dad replacement) husband and bosses thereafter.
It's heartbreaking to watch my adult children struggle with their mental health, to watch my grandson struggle as he too wants and needs his Dad, my Son.

BREAK THAT CHAIN!!!!

I'm calm, I'm strong, I know. The irony is, as I sat with my soon to be ex( he doesn't know it yet) rubbing HIS back, after making HIS food, tidying up HIS mess, avoiding HIS requests for intimacy to meet HIS needs only ( I've been forced Celibate for 13 years) I kept jokingly stating " You see Eve and Charlie,that's me and you"
Not a clue apparently, or as he can say" I refuse to be drawn, you're being ridiculous,over emotional, hurtful" Bla Bla
I can't wait to see his face when he wakes up at 4pm after being up all night doing his thing , rolls over , farts,gives me the "look " and mutters" are you going to make me a coffee,
and he realises I'm not there.
Love to all, Truly.

I hope you do get out of it and find happiness. I feel a lot of happiness just being alone, it’s rare anyway that someone comes along that appeals to me, but no longer worth that risk, as so many of these individuals out there

Thank you. You are so right, being alone brings enormous peace of mind, and the right to choose, instead of being picked by one of these people as their next victim!
I'm ok, this one ( so far) has never been the angry violent type, which is why I chose to ride the wave this time. I suppose I was so fed up of fighting Narcs, and felt stupid for falling for it again.
He's had a lifestyle change recently, and is starting to " show" more and more. I've called him on it, won't stand for it this time, so he's in victim status.
I've plenty of life left in me, and plan to get myself a lovely little house, a couple of cats, and plenty of time for me in a Narc free Zone!

I know I'm a bit late to the party but just watching the ep where Polly calls Charlie a bully based on Eves version of events... WTactualF?? So Eve winds Polly up, Polly has no ability to think critically that maybe there are two sides and goes off, Eve then says to Charlie she told Polly not to but tells Polly thanks?! Insane!

This whole series, there's only 2-3 people who seem fairly normal, the majority need serious counselling, not a marriage!

From what's been aired I think there's a strong possibility Richelle has psychopathic tendencies tbh. She's incredibly cold. I don't think she has normal emotions at all.

So idk if anyone is still testing this thread as I can't find the main mafs current one but I really can't understand what Orson has done wrong ?! He seems like a really nice bloke. Just watching last night's episode. Richelle seems very unhinged !

I haven’t seen it yet, but I agree richelle is unhinged and I feel like it’s a really bad match. It also bothers me the different life stages they are at. Unless orson didn’t want kids I don’t understand the logic of pairing a 40 year old man with a 48 year old woman. But that’s the least of their issues, he should be with a sensitive feeling woman so he can be his true authentic self without being constantly emasculated because she likes her men toxic. I need to catch up, I’ve only seen half of Mondays episode

Yes she is absolutely unhinged! She needs to get herself a punch bag rather than a partner!

I wonder if Orson is showing more of his true personality off camera because it looks like he's keen to move onto Hannah!

She’s already basically said she wants to really
piss him off to see how he reacts (which is really abusive). She essentially wants to push him to his limits to see what it takes to break him. This is either because she is simply a very nasty and abusive character who is playing games with him, or she has so much unprocessed trauma that she is literally used to men turning on her, and wants to see if he’s that type- hence she has now become the abuser.

The fact she couldn’t get her head around orson discussing past trauma with her shows she lacks empathy on a deep level, and likely also hasn’t empathised with herself by processing trauma. So despite thinking she’s very mature and very healed and very with it, and needs someone on her level, she’s kidding herself.

She is clearly deeply damaged and not a good life partner at this present time. She worries about orsons emotional strength but fails to see that aknowledging things that have caused you pain is much stronger than bottling things up to the point where you test and goad people to see if really they are a toxic person.

They claim to do psych tests on these people, but their bar seems incredibly low, or they lack insight into what damage looks like.

Richel is a goading narcissist and orson could do so much better. “Liar, liar” is a narcissists favourite cry, because being called a liar when you are not a liar is enough to fuel anger in the calmest person. She is really trying to get him angry, I’m not surprised she hasn’t had success in love.

I couldn't blame him! Richelle seems to have shown zero interest in even a pleasant acquaintance relationship with him! I wonder if she's planning on launching a business or something, as she sure as hell has no interest in the relationship side of things. I wonder how she thinks she's coming across on air ?! Bizarre.

lack of empathy and lack of insight go hand in hand, she has no manners but doesn’t appear to have any insight into that. I wouldn’t be surprised if the producers haven’t exaggerated her business success as I don’t see her anywhere online, I can’t imagine that someone who is so awful with other people, could work and get along with others in any significant capacity

Every time she says “you’re not a leader”, all I’m hearing is “you let me abuse you to a high level and you don’t give it back/ tell me to shut the fuck up”

Now he’s being punished for being upset that she said he doesn’t stimulate her intellectually, so apparently he’s now disingenuous because he didn’t mention he was upset about it until he came before the experts. Does it take a rocket scientist to work out that would upset someone?? I’m just catching up, don’t mind me 🤣 ordinarily if a groom started showing an interest in someone else I’d think he was gross, but not in this case. It’s just a shame as it seems he’s being drawn to someone who may be just as toxic as Richel

Continuing on the retreat episode, seems Rachel already has her flying monkeys and convinced everyone orson isn’t genuine, but I’m wondering where their evidence for this is? Some people are so easily manipulated

I'm really quite concerned that the so called experts are not calling out really shitty behaviour much more strongly. Alex is an abusive fucker with more red flags than a slalom course. Richelle is a total bitch and is behaving terribly and Stephen is a total twat. They made Hannah apologise when he was the one talking about off camera stuff first. It is horrible.

Oh and Polly and Holly need to shut the fuck up

Stephen is stirring the pot for sure, and seems to be getting some revenge by doing so, in terms of enjoying how the rest of the group are perceiving her and treating her. BUT, although it’s not been mentioned by absolutely anyone- her, Stephen, or the experts, when she was mocking and emasculating him on honeymoon when he was trying to make her laugh through the drawing competition, THAT was the moment where I reckon a switch went off in his head and he decided he didn’t like her. Then after that, the aggressive way she speaks, there was a flicker in his face, like nah I’m not into this. Both those things are fully understandable, she’s not an attractive character. It was after those two things that she said about the off camera stuff, which probably sealed the deal for him. I think he had already gone off her by that point. I don’t like her, I think she’s nasty, aggressive, a flirt, and thinks she’s more attractive than she is also. But he’s not looking much better at the moment