Anyone watching married at first sight? Eve showing classic signs of narcissism/abuse

[Waitforit7]

What are your opinions? I’m seeing a classic love bomber, even down to the smile and way she holds herself, she seemed determined to almost immediately engage in push pull, and seems to be eroding slowly Charlie’s sense of self and self esteem. Charlie is mildly histrionic and attaches herself very quickly, but it seems her attachment remains, eve is the typical player, goes all in, and then once she’s hooked someone starts to withdraw, stonewall, punish at any sign of emotion, and talk a lot about essentially how dramatic the other person is and how she has to walk on eggshells? Isn’t it funny that the people who say “I just hate drama” are the ones who tend to constantly create it? Eve has only stopped the love bombing because Charlie was hooked so fast and easily, they are incredibly bad pairing. Eve seems to enjoy seeing how quickly she can get Charlie emotional and seems to always be slyly pushing buttons. She creates situation after situation but puts it all down to Charlie’s emotions and is already smear campaigning her as an angry person who shouts and is abusive. She’s accused her of shouting when she’s not shouting she’s just upset, and seems to get off as a classic narc does when Charlie emotionally explodes while playing herself off a cool, mature, and drama free. Don’t get me wrong, Charlie seems insecure and too invested too quickly but that’s exactly what a narcissist gets off on. I can on one hand understand the pressure of the experiment, but eve acted as though she’d found her soulmate and now she is in the devalue/ semi discard/ gaslighting stage/ smear campaigning to others subtly, what do you guys think?

That’s the cycle of abuse! Feels like we are seeing it sped up!

I think Eve is really quite terrifyingly fucked up tbh. She shouldn’t be on this show.

Charlie is bewildered, trying over and over, being pushed away, controlled and gaslighted. It’s horrible to watch and I really hope someone on the production team steps in.

yes! I’m sure many women here have been with this type of abusive individual and it’s absolutely soul destroying and can take many years to recover from. For those who have experienced this dynamic and have recognised it in this situation, see it as a sign that you can spot an abuser better than you ever could before. That’s a part of healing

I also found it super interesting that eve apologised and attempted to patch it over before the dinner party, because a lot of people recognise a haunted abused look, and she needed Charlie’s loyalty that evening, both in the way she came across to others appearance wise, and what she might say…..so then eve could play the abused victim while Charlie looked happy and confident…. These people really are sick and I don’t buy it for a second that eve doesn’t know what she’s doing.

I just had a look at Polly’s instagram account, she’s basically posted an apology on her story saying that they were “blindsided” as the girls had only heard Eve’s side of the story and said they’ve apologised and now speak to Charlie regularly. And she’s mentioned the effect of alcohol and her “undiagnosed ADHD”. I presume she’s just saying this as a result of the backlash. She should have just apologised then left it at that without her attempts to justify her actions.

I thought the same re ASD!!

I appreciate it's all in the name of entertaining - but, they've gone really low level this year. The so called experts will surely know an abusive dynamic when they see one!

Flying monkeys are people the narcissist finds easy to manipulate, often people who are happy to air dirty laundry and don’t have much of a filter, so the narc can sit quiet as the innocent victim. We all saw the flying monkeys coming on this thread, I didn’t think polly would get involved though, I suppose she seemed rather a tame character, but true colours soon show. She shouldn’t have got involved and she was really nasty, but I blame eve to be honest. Eve knew what she was doing, and goodness knows what she told polly for her to react like that

Yep, eve looked guarded and a bit afraid, afraid the truth would come out, but now she’s realised she’s really got Charlie properly in a submissive position.

Exactly, she’s delighted her mind games and power struggle are achieving what she set out to do - make Charlie feel crap and inferior to her and to make herself look like the wronged party who is also a gracious and forgiving victim of “big bully Charlie”

Charlie has also posted how overwhelmed she is at all the support she’s been getting. I’m so glad because after all that gaslighting and the lack of support she experienced during the experiment, she now needs to hear as many voices as possible reassure her that she was not the person Eve tried to represent her as and that Eve’s behaviour was indeed appalling.

Eve will be raging that she can’t control the narrative any longer and she’s been exposed.

I’m also on the MAFS thread and 100% agree with you also @Waitforit7

First thing I said when Polly got involved was that Eve had her flying monkeys out and was activating DARVO.

Yes flying monkeys, I know them well. I have them in my family!

Yeah well I guess either way Polly has learnt a lesson! I kind of get the impression she’s not talking to Eve anymore or at least nowhere near as close.

And at least she has given some sort of apology. I doubt Eve has or will. Couldn’t find her on instagram.

Yeah this is textbook DARVO@browneyes77

It’s been awful to watch but I really hope this rings the alarm for anyone experiencing this kind of behaviour in their relationship and they see how toxic it is.

Eve’s Instagram account is evereid01, interestingly she hasn’t posted anything about MAFS!

Polly is evidently lacking significantly in any self awareness judging how she behaves around Adam and his constant rejection ( oblivious!). In that sense, she is susceptible to recruitment as a Flying Monkey. Her ADHD could explain her complete lack of awareness on all this.
Despite that, regardless of the cause ( ADHD or not), it's highly unpleasant and hopefully she will learn alot from this and the public reaction.

Eve on the other hand!! She'll be convincing herself the whole world is wrong and she has been set up 🤦‍♀️

To the person who posted saying Charlie fake cried and didn’t have red eyes, her body language and pain she was feeling was incredibly evident to anyone that is experiencing or has experienced, frustration and crazy making at the hands of a narc. It’s like you are slowly dying inside bit by bit. You are questioning reality so much that you literally start to break down. That’s what was happening to Charlie, but you’d need the empathy and experience to understand that

Very good points, she lacks awareness big time, thinking it’s Adam’s fault he doesn’t fancy her, and making him feel like he needs to do more. Most people would be feeling very wary and not want anything with someone that wasn’t clearly into them, I agree this lack of awareness and not being able to put the pieces of the puzzle together, makes her much easier to manipulate. Plus she was already so bitter about her relationship and on edge, she needed a punch bag and eve provided one

I clearly have too much time on my hands lol but I’ve went and had a look at Eve’s instagram page.

She’s posted absolutely nothing about MAFSUK in the photos or on her stories or even on her bio. It’s quite bizarre! She doesn’t seem to be following either Polly or Charlie but following some of the other cast. And she’s disabled comments on all her posts!

Her “people” probably told her to do all of that, lay low, as it’s not looking good for her, and God knows what’s going to happen next

I’ve just seen this after I’ve posted above!
I made the same observation - she had nothing about MAFS on her page lol .

She knows her bad behaviour will be called out, she wants the fame but clearly doesn’t want the backlash !

Unfortunately for her the tabloids have picked this up anyway so she can’t escape criticism that easy.

I think the word is overused sometimes but she really does have a lot of strong narc traits!

No, I think Eve is on a lot of gear/ drugs. Really uncomfortable watching her , properly gives me the creeps.

Eve scares me.. she really should be made to leave

This is a frankly scary level of assumption and judgment based on a heavily edited TV show that is transparently orchestrated to create drama and dysfunction. We don't know these people. Editing footage and creating different moods goes a LONG way. Remember these are real people, not characters for us to project our own issues on to.

Eve has a new gf she was seen in ibiza with her.

Editing footage and creating different moods goes a LONG way. Remember these are real people, not characters for us to project our own issues on to.

I don't think any amount of editing can change the fact that Eve is an emotional abuser and not invested in the process

Nobody is projecting their own issues

I agree.

With all the other couples, I can see points on both sides, strengths and weaknesses. I often find it a really interesting show to ponder and reflect on my own preconceptions and communication style.

But the dynamic from Eve to Charlie feels like classic narcissistic abuse to me; just based on the undisputed facts they both agree on. It is horrible to watch.